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Husky_Khan

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Haven't seen a thread on this surprisingly.

Just saw the first four episodes now that it's one Disney Plus. I kept hearing positive things about the show but seeing it for myself, it's actually pretty good and watchable. A lot of the criticisms were over flat jokes and humor and whatnot but I find that rather offbase. The humor doesn't land like a comedy sketch show because the humor is meant to observational and casual, like conversational as opposed to the quips, injokes and references we are all used to and bemused by in your average Hollywood movie or the like.

Also the characters are already growing on me. First episode, they and their dialogue seemed pretty bland and uninteresting, but their banter is growing on me solely through exposure. The more familiar I become with the characters and their issues, the more I'm drawn into their seemingly uninteresting banter and seemingly shallow characters. And so far all of the characters are likable, even the recognizably tropey ones I thought I'd be annoyed by earlier on.

The show has the impression of being episodic, but watching it continuously seems to be the way to do it with all that said. There is a strong continuous narrative even though the show feels episodic (again only four episodes in) with things from previous episodes carrying into the next. And the plotlines, even though some have obviously been touched by science fiction writers and shows before, still feel like fresh takes. And each episodes story has been distinct and memorable.

Overall it's pretty decent scifi for television. It feels pretty light hearted, but there's a lot of heart there.
 

Sailor.X

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Haven't seen a thread on this surprisingly.

Just saw the first four episodes now that it's one Disney Plus. I kept hearing positive things about the show but seeing it for myself, it's actually pretty good and watchable. A lot of the criticisms were over flat jokes and humor and whatnot but I find that rather offbase. The humor doesn't land like a comedy sketch show because the humor is meant to observational and casual, like conversational as opposed to the quips, injokes and references we are all used to and bemused by in your average Hollywood movie or the like.

Also the characters are already growing on me. First episode, they and their dialogue seemed pretty bland and uninteresting, but their banter is growing on me solely through exposure. The more familiar I become with the characters and their issues, the more I'm drawn into their seemingly uninteresting banter and seemingly shallow characters. And so far all of the characters are likable, even the recognizably tropey ones I thought I'd be annoyed by earlier on.

The show has the impression of being episodic, but watching it continuously seems to be the way to do it with all that said. There is a strong continuous narrative even though the show feels episodic (again only four episodes in) with things from previous episodes carrying into the next. And the plotlines, even though some have obviously been touched by science fiction writers and shows before, still feel like fresh takes. And each episodes story has been distinct and memorable.

Overall it's pretty decent scifi for television. It feels pretty light hearted, but there's a lot of heart there.
I like the Orville it is what old school trek was like before the Wokies got their hands on it.
 

Undertone

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Saw most of Season 2 on actual TV. It was disappointing that Season 3 ended up online-only, but Disney Plus picking it up is definitely a boost.

Working through Season 3 right now. The show is still chugging along, doing its thing where it's OK to be a little funny while being the best Star Trek: TNG it can be. I chuckled quite a bit at Mercer's "May The Force Be With You" quip. It's just so on the nose for D+ viewers who could be dipping between this and various Star Wars miniseries.
 

Husky_Khan

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Working through Season Two and its really good stuff. Season One was solid but Season Two is even better. The humor is integrated far better and the comic relief characters of Lieutenant Malloy and LaMarr are far less obnoxious, which was so overboard in some cases to affect scene quality.

Watching an episode now and it's a wonderful exploration of "Holodeck Addiction" which was something touched upon in the original Star Trek (with Lieutenant Barclay's character or even Geordi LaForge's "relationship" with Leah Brahms) and other SciFi but here it was treated in a very fresh and actually very emotionally resonant manner. And done with maturity as well. How 'Holodeck Simulations' can be so addictive is fairly apparent for anyone with addiction to things like romance novels or television or gaming or VR I would imagine, but the way this episode "Lasting Impressions" handled it was pretty good.

I might just be commenting on this because I just got done watching it but honestly, it could be a candidate for an extremely strong character driven episode, and with a character (Lieutenant Malloy) whose been seen as a lot of (overbearing) comic relief that is actually seeing a lot of dramatic and serious roles and character growth, and not just in this episode but prior ones as well. It's just this one is focused on him and he carried it well. It was a great subject, surprisingly slow paced (and barely SciFi) being a character and drama driven episode and done really well with great themes it explored. Not just with the 'addiction' but personal relationships and even a bit of philosophy and life lessons/wisdom and the like in it as well.
 

Undertone

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Just finished Season 3. Sure, it has just "ten" episodes but the runtimes are much longer, all of them are at least '90 minute' equivalent with a handful of double episodes. So nearly as much Orville as a regular season, just shifted around a bit.

There is one last note; I haven't read the novella for "Sympathy for the Devil" (Episode 9B) yet. It's technically supposed to have been Episode 9, but was cancelled.

Some brief ratings and semi-spoiler blurbs:

S3E01: Electric Sheep (8/10)
The Orville crew hates Isaac to death. Great execution, as far as Burke is concerned.

S3E02: Shadow Realms (6/10)
An old squeeze of Finn's comes back with a bit of a crush, and literally turns into a monster. Some redeeming moments that get weird and out-there -- this is the first time in a while The Orville has met something truly alien.

S3E03: Mortality Paradox (5/10)
The senior staff wander into an episode of Jordan Peele's The Twilight Zone. Keyali and Grayson factor heavily in the ending. Mash that reset button!

S3E04: Gently Falling Rain (10/10)
Krill politics gets super personal for Mercer and Grayson. My favourite episode this season.

S3E05: A Tale of Two Topas (8/10)
The next step in the Moclan women subplot that's been running since Season 1's "About A Girl". Since "Electric Sheep" established that suicide is on the table this season, there's really only one life-preserving path through to the end of this story.

A whole mess of personal and societal questions without easy answers colliding all at once. At the end, an Admiral personally flies to the Orville to chew out Mercer and Grayson for disobeying orders.

S3E06: Twice in a Lifetime (7/10)
A followon from "Lasting Impressions" and "Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow".

An interesting question the episode asks is: What happens when your time machine... breaks? What happens when... *you* break?

Some vital Isaac-Burke moments, and a real interesting moment for Keyali, but as far as the main plot goes, mash that reset button!

S3E07: From Unknown Graves (8/10)
Elyse Levesque (Stargate: Universe) guest stars. The history of the Kaylon is dropped on us like an anvil. Definitely needed for the overall plot of the season. The B and C plots are almost completely independent, making this episode feel the most like a regular day at the office for The Orville.

S3E08: Midnight Blue (9/10)
Topa meets her hero, Heveena. Topa gets kidnapped and worse; Heveena is forced to choose between her movement and Topa's safety. Heveena "meets" her hero, Dolly Parton [special cameo]. Dramatic politics ensue.

S3E09: Domino (10/10)
An action-packed episode full of diplomatic twists and turns. We finally see the Pteradon in action. We get the payoff for Ensign Burke's arc. It would be a worthy end to the season, but no, there is another.

S3E10: Future Unknown (8/10)
Some much needed denouement after the last episode; it follows on the overall Finn-Isaac plot and also the Season 1 Episode "Majority Rule".

I really really hope that Penny Johnson Jerald getting married on your show does not mean it's about to end :p

A mainly feel-good ep that's half "You Are Cordially Invited..." and half is a fanfic for what happens after "TNG: First Contact".
 
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S'task

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S3E09: Domino (10/10)
An action-packed episode full of diplomatic twists and turns. We finally see the Pteradon in action. We get the payoff for Ensign Burke's arc. It would be a worthy end to the season, but no, there is another.
You failed to mention the highlight of the episode: the duet between Burke and Malloy singing Simon and Garfunkel's "Flowers Never Bend With the Rainfall" ;):


I know this seems silly, but have you ever tried singing along to a Simon and Garfunkel duet? Those are HARD songs to sing and show how skilled those two are.
 

Husky_Khan

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Hulu (and Seth McFarlane) say that the show isn't dead yet, but they haven't gotten into actually any work in producing Season Four yet.


There's some difficulties though. Apparently the contracts for the actors expired after Season Three and the shooting of previous seasons with long breaks between short shoots for each season was rough on much of the cast.
 

S'task

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Apparently the contracts for the actors expired after Season Three and the shooting of previous seasons with long breaks between short shoots for each season was rough on much of the cast.
I can imagine. Since acting is a form of contracted gig work, while they're under contract but not working they likely couldn't get other work, thus impacting their finances. It also would be a pain to maintain the "look" of the character for that long period without constant shooting, especially for the human actors who would need to maintain hairstyles, etc. They couldn't easily change them for another project and come back.
 

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