The White Guards Generala Wrangel get a second chance

Vadim

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The Crimean Peninsula moved from the Black Sea to the northern Pacific Ocean on
November 13, 1920. General Wrangel, realizing that something is wrong, suspends the evacuation of the Russian army and the civilian population. Soon the White Guards saw that Crimea had become an island somewhere in the southern hemisphere and realized that the Bolsheviks no longer threatened them. However, the peninsula's resources did not allow for a long time to provide the large population with everything necessary, and therefore he sent the ships of the Russian squadron to investigate and began to try to establish radio communication with European possessions. A few days later, the Russian dreadnought General Alekseev made contact with the British cruiser. The British Empire and the United States were very surprised to learn that the Russian anti-communists were so far away, but they sent an embassy to Sevastopol.
The first years were a difficult time for the inhabitants of Crimea, as they did not provide themselves with food. His breadbasket has always been the northern counties of the Tauride province, or Northern Tavria, which lay beyond the Isthmus of Perekop. Now, when only the Crimean Island remained in the hands of the White Army, the threat of starvation hung over the army and the population that had accumulated on it. The price of basic necessities has increased unimaginably. Despite the fight against speculation and attempts to regulate food prices, the "black market" prevailed, and a significant part of the population continued to live half-starved. This was especially true of civil servants and intellectuals who lived in cities and had no other sources of income other than government service.
Fortunately, the United States helped the Crimean Republic.The American Relief Administration (ARA) provided food, medicines and warm clothes for those in need, and many ordinary people helped the residents of Crimea.As a result, due to the development of agriculture and the emigration of superfluous people in 1925, the threat of famine disappeared.
Will the White Guards be able to preserve their state and become the best version of Russia, or will they be conquered by other states?
*The population of Crimea at the time of the transfer was 1,500,000, of which a significant part were refugees from the territories occupied by the Bolsheviks.
 
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The remnants of Wrangel's Russian army were reorganized and consolidated into three corps — the 1st Army (about 25 thousand people), Donskoy (up to 20 thousand people) and Kuban (16 thousand people). After the transfer, there was no need to maintain a large army, as the only threat remained the red partisans. The fleet was necessary to demonstrate the flag and protect communism from possible raiders of the Bolshevik navy. Therefore, the dreadnought General Alekseev, the old cruisers General Kornilov and Almaz were restored in 1922 with the help of the British. The Novik-class destroyers Hasty, Ardent, Audacious, Restless and Angry were also repaired. The Russian squadron also included four submarines AG-22, Burevestnik, Utka and Seal.
In October 1922, during the evacuation of Primorye, Rear Admiral G.K. Stark brought to Sevastopol the remnants of the Siberian military flotilla consisting of the gunboat Manchu, auxiliary transports, steamships, military tugs and messenger ships. The British Empire also handed over the old Askold cruiser to the Russian Navy. The money for its repair was raised by the patriots.
 
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For the sake of interest, on March 3, 1921, Kotlin Island appeared a few dozen kilometers from the island of Crimea during the Kronstadt rebellion. The rebel forces include 17,960 soldiers and sailors, 196 coastal defense guns and field artillery (excluding the naval guns of the battleships Sevastopol and Petropavlovsk) and 126 machine guns; the rebels also have two aircraft. The island has a population of about 40,000 people. The locals are distrustful of the White Guards, although they can cooperate on some issues.
 
The prospects. development. In 1920-1925, the Crimean Republic would remain a poor agrarian state ruled by Wrangel's military dictatorship. He will support the White Guard anti-Soviet elements in Europe and Asia in the hope of overthrowing the Bolshevik regime. However, in 1925-1930, he will have to create the appearance of democratic reforms in order to attract foreign investment to the country. After the Great Depression of 1929, he would again have problems with the economy and this might prompt him to establish close contacts with the Third Reich and the Japanese Empire. The population of the Republic will grow, which will increase the risk of famine and may lead to a desire to expand by seizing colonies. And since only Britain has suitable colonies, an alliance with Japan against it is logical.The best place to capture would be Australia.By that time, a large Russian-speaking community may have formed there from among the White Guards who left Crimea. Many of them, against the background of the suspicious attitude towards them from the local authorities, may begin to openly sympathize with fascism.
 
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While Kronstadt rebels are not enamoured with Soviet leadership, they hate the Whites, so cooperation is very unlikely, the distance to USSR and proximity to the Crimea might soften their dislike of Lenin&Co.

Since Crimean Republic will be reliant on imports of pretty much everything, they will be vary of prodding Brits and Americans, Japan can't supply them fuel and food, so it is unlikely they would embark on such adventure and it is even less likely for the Japanese to invite them along.
 
Хотя кронштадтские повстанцы не в восторге от советского руководства, они ненавидят белых, так что сотрудничество маловероятно. Расстояние до СССР и близость к Крыму могут смягчить их неприязнь к Ленину и компании.

Поскольку Крымская Республика будет зависеть от импорта практически всего, что им нужно, они будут вынуждены обращаться за помощью к британцам и американцам. Япония не сможет поставлять им топливо и продукты питания, поэтому маловероятно, что они решатся на такое приключение, и ещё менее вероятно, что японцы пригласят их с собой.
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Без продовольствия из Крыма и западных стран у мятежных кронштадтцев нет шансов выжить, потому что на острове мало еды и топлива. Конечно, они могут попытаться напасть на Крым или заняться пиратством, но в первом случае их победят более многочисленные и обученные войска врангелевцев, а во втором — несколько американских или британских линкоров, которые положат конец анархистской республике. В 1941–1942 годах ни британцы, ни американцы не стали бы бесплатно снабжать белогвардейцев, поскольку сотрудничество с СССР было для них важным, а продовольствие и топливо требовались для ведения войны. На второстепенных направлениях русская армия Врангеля способна создать проблемы для антияпонской коалиции (например, их можно отправить воевать с китайцами, а высвободившиеся силы — на более важный фронт). Российская эскадра из трех дредноутов типа "Севастополь" также может оказать поддержку в районах, где нет сильных американских соединений.Таким образом, вступление в войну на стороне Оси может произойти. И в случае поражения и оккупации американцы все равно будут вынуждены снабжать население минимумом необходимых вещей. Если японцы смогут достичь своих целей, они смогут решить проблему с продовольствием, колонизировав земли в Китае или Австралии, или даже получив контроль над нефтяными месторождениями. Хорошие отношения с Третьим рейхом и Италией можно поддерживать со времён гражданской войны в Испании, где они будут сражаться плечом к плечу на стороне генерала Франко (где они смогут грабить и мстить коммунистам). Конечно, до Врангеля может дойти какая-то информация о зверствах немцев на территории СССР, но он вряд ли поверит, что нацисты не хотят, чтобы он вернул власть на территории России.

Ih funge an. I'm chopping.
Es east for all Soviet places,
For the Russian people from the edge to the edge
The Baron's uner manifesto.
You all know my last name.:
I am Bin von Wrangel, Herr Baron.
I am the most beautiful, the most honest
There is a candidate for the royal throne.
Hello, red soldaten:
Why are you fighting against me?
My government is all democratic,
And not some kind of evil.
A watch with a broken spring —
There is such a Soviet government.
What kind of worker from the machine
Has a smart head?
What kind of guy who's at odds with the field
won't be a fool?
They have brains with calluses like that,
How callused is their hand!
Mit kleinem, a bright little mind
All zo genannten suckers
To have power?! Pfft, this is too much!
Their sprehe: (pfui, will give the ist zu fil!
Without noble classes
Russian stories are a round zero.
Shut up! This is not a new order!
Lenin has completely deceived you!
You have to believe me, the Baron,
My word is solid is rock.
Mein Kopf is waiting for the royal crown,
The two—headed Adler is my eagle.
Holy Russland... geilich erde
Sie ligt im sterben,15 my land.
I'm with the white horse... fom weisen pferde…
I'll come down from the walls of the Kremlin.
And I'll tell the whole gang:
"Mein folk, don't rob!
Lie to your old boss,
Put the knives in the scissors!"
You will cry a lot.
"Order the old carp!"
You will pray in the kirchen
For the main Russian soul.
Vi will live happily ever after
And kiss my boot.
Gut!
 
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Interesting,but - somebody would take over after WW2.Probably USA.They would not let soviets come,but could send russians to gulags.
So - you do not saved them for long.
If you send them near South Africa instead....they could survive till 1990,maybe longer.

P.S Merry Easter !
 
Interesting,but - somebody would take over after WW2.Probably USA.They would not let soviets come,but could send russians to gulags.
So - you do not saved them for long.
If you send them near South Africa instead....they could survive till 1990,maybe longer.

P.S Merry Easter !
After the war, the Americans will occupy the island and force the locals to abandon fascism, carry out democratic reforms and demilitarization. Since the White Guards will not participate in the war against the USSR, they are unlikely to be handed over to Stalin (on the contrary, members of Vlasov's ROA will flee to Crimea). During the Cold War, the United States would support Whites as an alternative to Russia, and some of the former soldiers of the Russian Army would fight alongside the Americans against the Communists in Korea and Vietnam. By the 21st century, Crimea will become a prosperous state (perhaps even an Asian tiger). He is unlikely to unite with the Russian Federation, but friendly relations may well form. Without the pro-Russian Crimea, Ukraine will be a more stable state and may be able to carry out successful reforms.
By the way, in the absence of Crimea during World War II, German troops, due to the lack of need to capture Crimea and storm Sevastopol in 1942, would achieve great success (either they would take Stalingrad or they would conduct Operation Nordlicht to capture Leningrad). Of course, neither the capture of Leningrad, nor Stalingrad, nor the Caucasus saved the Nazis, and they would still be defeated before 1946.
(although an atomic bomb could have been dropped on Berlin instead of Hiroshima).Perhaps the Second World War will end soon on the Oder and not on the Elbe
 
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After the war, the Americans will occupy the island and force the locals to abandon fascism, carry out democratic reforms and demilitarization. Since the White Guards will not participate in the war against the USSR, they are unlikely to be handed over to Stalin (on the contrary, members of Vlasov's ROA will flee to Crimea).

Good for them.
During the Cold War, the United States would support Whites as an alternative to Russia, and some of the former soldiers of the Russian Army would fight alongside the Americans against the Communists in Korea and Vietnam. By the 21st century, Crimea will become a prosperous state (perhaps even an Asian tiger). He is unlikely to unite with the Russian Federation, but friendly relations may well form. Without the pro-Russian Crimea, Ukraine will be a more stable state and may be able to carry out successful reforms.
Well,colonel putin would still attack just becouse.But - Ukraine could be stronger here.
By the way, in the absence of Crimea during World War II, German troops, due to the lack of need to capture Crimea and storm Sevastopol in 1942, would achieve great success (either they would take Stalingrad or they would conduct Operation Nordlicht to capture Leningrad). Of course, neither the capture of Leningrad, nor Stalingrad, nor the Caucasus saved the Nazis, and they would still be defeated before 1946.
Agree,but if they capture and burn Baku,it would slow soviet army.
(although an atomic bomb could have been dropped on Berlin instead of Hiroshima).Perhaps the Second World War will end soon on the Oder and not on the Elbe
Or maybe even on Vistula,with Eastern and Western Poland instead of Germany.
 

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