Detroit has been continuously and probably irreversibly declining since the 1950s -- the city's economy was almost entirely based on the auto industry, but the auto industry had started decentralizing and diversifying production locations away from the city in the 1930s. This was temporarily masked by the war economy of the WWII years, but once that came to an end, the economic troubles combined with long-simmering tensions over racial segregation in housing and schools.
Things get worse in The Southwest
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Detroit has been continuously and probably irreversibly declining since the 1950s -- the city's economy was almost entirely based on the auto industry, but the auto industry had started decentralizing and diversifying production locations away from the city in the 1930s. This was temporarily masked by the war economy of the WWII years, but once that came to an end, the economic troubles combined with long-simmering tensions over racial segregation in housing and schools.
LordsFire
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That's an interesting attempt to cover up the fact that it was the Democrat takeover of the city, and the insane massive corruption that followed, particularly relating to law enforcement, that turned the city into a pit.
To be fair, the racial tension was absolutely real, but you might also want to ask why the auto industry was starting to decentralize...
gral
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Detroit is going downhill since the 1970s, the '08 Crash just accelerated the process somewhat.
f1onagher
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There are several culprits in Detroit's fall. An interesting one I take note of when comparing it to Chicago is that Detroit made the mistake of going all in on Union corruption while Chicago diversified into wider politics. When the Democrats lost any use for the unions they cut Detroit loose whereas there have been efforts to artificially stimulate Chicago for decades to keep it up and running.
Supply and demands works even in political corruption!
Who says it couldn't be both.
Larry the Cable Guy of all people being vicious af...
Used to be that you couldn't tell the difference in Detroit alone. How the times are changing...
The Refugee Crisis in California mapped out.
Include Californians in your prayers tonight.
Include Californians in your prayers tonight.
Robovski
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The Refugee Crisis in California mapped out.
Include Californians in your prayers tonight.
Plenty fled from Washington state too. And from the urban north east. It's not just Californians you have to watch out for.
The Refugee Crisis in California mapped out.
Include Californians in your prayers tonight.
Thank you we need those prayers.
Floridaman
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The Refugee Crisis in California mapped out.
Include Californians in your prayers tonight.
Looks like a swarm of locusts.
No. Commiefornians out of our states now!
I would like to note that I have been consistantly against socialism for decades now.
Also some of us learn from our mistakes.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Things seem to be getting worse and worse for the sunshine state as well as the southwest.
Robovski
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I used to live in Tucson, it relies on an isolated underground aquifer. New home construction is to provide for water use which means (at least for now) a cap on new construction. There really is only so much water there locally, but we'll see how long it takes for the political incentive to make money holds out against the desire to not run out of water locally. Probably about as long as it takes for the check to clear, but I'm a cynic.
Southern California mostly runs on water taken (or stolen, depending on who you talk to) from elsewhere and the snow pack has not been great for a while so once again the smart idea of building a city in a desert continues to show just how smart that was. I'm sure some other rural community won't mind going without water so the city can continue to drink the state dry.
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I mean the Cheddar video on the subject is the most hilarious by design.
It starts out telling facts then brings up slavery and abuse of the natives by mormons despite it being irrelevant to the subject and then finally they end it off with a happy go lucky "This is fine" excuse by bringing up that the southwest per individual is using less water while ignoring the population explosion and lack of rainfalls which makes the entire thing irrelevant.
Dont get me wrong I am going to enjoy seeing California fall to it's own hubris but I feel sorry for the other states and cities which unlike the Golden State dont have the luxury of sea access for distillation plants.
AnimalNoodles
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The Refugee Crisis in California mapped out.
Include Californians in your prayers tonight.
more like an image of a metastasizing cancer.
I wouldn't go that far. Not everyone for California is bad nor an idiot much less to the point I would condemn them to live there under the leadership of those who lead them to ruin.
My main gripe with their exodus is a combination of it helping raise land prices out of the native residents of other states and the select few who insist on looking down on native residents as lesser unenlightened beings and try to export the way of life they claim lead them to leaving the state anyway.
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