Trump catches Joe sleeping, swipes online domains for Biden's new latino outreach campaign.

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Joe Biden's presidential campaign announced yesterday that they were launching a new outreach campaign aimed at Latinos called Todos con Biden (everyone with Biden). Unfortunately (or fortunately) they neglected to secure the web domain and twitter handle prior to the announcement. As a result, President Trump's campaign has purchased the web domain and acquired the twitter handle and are now using them to masterfully troll Joe Biden.

The website now has a banner reading "Paid for by Donald J. Trump" and has two conspicuous links to bother the english and Spanish language versions of the Latinos for Trump web page.
 
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Urabrask Revealed said:
What does the skin-color have to do with a nation being supposed to have ONE language that is spoken by every citizen?
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Because that's not actually a requirement in the US; we have no official national language.

Having Spanish language sites and signs is not a problem, and is good outreach. Plus, a lot of the western US has many place and town names that are Spanish, so an understanding of Spanish becomes just a part of knowing the local geography and history. What Trump is doing is actually rather standard practice these days, on both sides of the aisle. Heck, GW Bush did entire speeches in Spanish, and had large amounts of Latino support.

Like, I'm not fluent in Spanish, but I can understand a decent chunk of it and speak enough to get me to either an interpreter or bathroom in a Spanish speaking country. I have absolutely no issue with political campaigns operating Spanish language sites to help communicate with the Latino population.
 
Bacle said:
Because that's not actually a requirement in the US; we have no official national language.

Having Spanish language sites and signs is not a problem, and is good outreach. Plus, a lot of the western US has many place and town names that are Spanish, so an understanding of Spanish becomes just a part of knowing the local geography and history. What Trump is doing is actually rather standard practice these days, on both sides of the aisle. Heck, GW Bush did entire speeches in Spanish, and had large amounts of Latino support.

Like, I'm not fluent in Spanish, but I can understand a decent chunk of it and speak enough to get me to either an interpreter or bathroom in a Spanish speaking country. I have absolutely no issue with political campaigns operating Spanish language sites to help communicate with the Latino population.
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So if I moved to the USA and demanded that everyone speaks german for my convenience, that's okay? We have such people in Germany already, and they have formed enclaves where you speak turkish or you get mugged. You really want the same thing to happen in the USA?
 
Urabrask Revealed said:
So if I moved to the USA and demanded that everyone speaks german for my convenience, that's okay? We have such people in Germany already, and they have formed enclaves where you speak turkish or you get mugged. You really want the same thing to happen in the USA?
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. . .

So, actually, you just picked the ONE language that this rant hilariously doesn't apply for.

You see, up until the 1910s in the United States there was a MASSIVE German speaking minority throughout the northern Mid-Atlantic and Great Lakes region of the United States that primarily spoke German. In fact, the reason that English is NOT the official language of the US was that in the 18th century there was such a sizable German speaking minority in the US that they didn't want to alienate by making it such.

If you study ethnic history in the US one of the groups you'll come across is the "Pennsylvania Dutch"... but that name is just good ol' fashioned English mangling of a foreign word. The original term for them was actually "Pennsylvania Deutsche", which you might, uhh... recognize.

So, as a matter of fact, there was such a time where Germans immigrating from Germany could come to the United States and settle in areas where everyone spoke German...
 
S'task said:
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So, actually, you just picked the ONE language that this rant hilariously doesn't apply for.

You see, up until the 1910s in the United States there was a MASSIVE German speaking minority throughout the northern Mid-Atlantic and Great Lakes region of the United States that primarily spoke German. In fact, the reason that English is NOT the official language of the US was that in the 18th century there was such a sizable German speaking minority in the US that they didn't want to alienate by making it such.

If you study ethnic history in the US one of the groups you'll come across is the "Pennsylvania Dutch"... but that name is just good ol' fashioned English mangling of a foreign word. The original term for them was actually "Pennsylvania Deutsche", which you might, uhh... recognize.

So, as a matter of fact, there was such a time where Germans immigrating from Germany could come to the United States and settle in areas where everyone spoke German...
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Yeah, and what happened to them? Ah, yes, they were pressured to give up their language and speak exclusivly english.
 
Urabrask Revealed said:
Yeah, and what happened to them? Ah, yes, they were pressured to give up their language and speak exclusivly english.
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Actually, no...

They decided to do that on their own as far as I know, as a way to show their loyalty to the US in WW1. Prior to then there was no real push to have them become primarily or sole English speakers as far as I know.
 
S'task said:
Actually, no...

They decided to do that on their own as far as I know, as a way to show their loyalty to the US in WW1. Prior to then there was no real push to have them become primarily or sole English speakers as far as I know.
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If that's the case, what does this tell us of the "legal" immigrants who continue using spanish?
 
S'task said:
Actually, no...

They decided to do that on their own as far as I know, as a way to show their loyalty to the US in WW1. Prior to then there was no real push to have them become primarily or sole English speakers as far as I know.
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Well they either did that or they got a lynch mob, so I suppose that’s a form of choice. Just not much of one for the German-Americans.

War Hysteria & the Persecution of German-Americans

War Hysteria & the Persecution of German-Americans
www.historyonthenet.com
 
Urabrask Revealed said:
If that's the case, what does this tell us of the "legal" immigrants who continue using spanish?
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There are Hispanic families in the Western US who have been here since before the Mexican-American War, and forcing them to only speak English would have been wholly counter-productive.

So Spanish isn't a language foreign to the US, nor is German, or French (Creole is still used in large parts of Louisiana). Then you have things like Navajo being the third most spoken language after English and Spanish in a large part of the Southwest, or parts of Alaska retaining Inuit languages.

You just don't seem to get that the US not having an official language is a feature, not a bug, when it comes to social cohesion.
 
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