Two Eagles and a Rising Sun: A Three Nation ISOT

Great, the Japanese has started The Great War and now the US Navy is missing it's most modern of defences... time to send the Coast Guard out with depth charges folk! Modern Sonar will make things easier to hunt.
 

ATP

Well-known member
Great, the Japanese has started The Great War and now the US Navy is missing it's most modern of defences... time to send the Coast Guard out with depth charges folk! Modern Sonar will make things easier to hunt.
Or they act on orders made before transition.Remember,Japan started war in OTL becouse USA cut oil delivering to them,and could defeat them in longer war.
Now,USA had notching to cut becouse refineries in dutch Indochina do not exist yet,and USA is unable to win war of atrition.

No reason for Japan to attack,just like germans have no reason to invade.
Not mention,that both countries are UNABLE to invade USA.
 
Or they act on orders made before transition.Remember,Japan started war in OTL becouse USA cut oil delivering to them,and could defeat them in longer war.
Now,USA had notching to cut becouse refineries in dutch Indochina do not exist yet,and USA is unable to win war of atrition.

No reason for Japan to attack,just like germans have no reason to invade.
Not mention,that both countries are UNABLE to invade USA.
The issue now is that this is a genuine surprise attack on American soil, if this doesn't jump start the industrial jump start needed that I'll be damn.
 

Quickdraw101

Beware My Power-Green Lantern's Light
Well,shit happen.
Japan do not need war with USA now,too.
They need time to take Dutch India and made refineries there.
They don't need it, but many in the IJA and IJN want it or see it as necessary to gain absolute supremacy in Asia and the Pacific. And now that all their gains in China since the 30's have been taken away from them, as well as the Mandates given after WW1, all they have is Korea, Taiwan, and Manchuria. In the book 1941: Road to Infamy, it was said by Hideki Tojo that to back down from war, especially war in China, would greatly damage the morale of the army. War definitely isn't in Japan's best interest, but politicians who try to curtail the military tend to suffer a case of assassination before too long. And when they figure out that the US they currently face isn't the juggernaut they believe it to be, things will certainly change. Many will in fact push for it when they realize they hold quite a few advantages. They still need American oil in the short term, and if negotiations can't get that, then batter the Americans until they sue for peace.
 

ATP

Well-known member
The issue now is that this is a genuine surprise attack on American soil, if this doesn't jump start the industrial jump start needed that I'll be damn.
Of course! but both Germany and Japan would be capable of invading USA in next ten years ,not next year.
Tey need peace to prepare now.

They don't need it, but many in the IJA and IJN want it or see it as necessary to gain absolute supremacy in Asia and the Pacific. And now that all their gains in China since the 30's have been taken away from them, as well as the Mandates given after WW1, all they have is Korea, Taiwan, and Manchuria. In the book 1941: Road to Infamy, it was said by Hideki Tojo that to back down from war, especially war in China, would greatly damage the morale of the army. War definitely isn't in Japan's best interest, but politicians who try to curtail the military tend to suffer a case of assassination before too long. And when they figure out that the US they currently face isn't the juggernaut they believe it to be, things will certainly change. Many will in fact push for it when they realize they hold quite a few advantages. They still need American oil in the short term, and if negotiations can't get that, then batter the Americans until they sue for peace.
True,they feared what army would do,and for good reasons,BUT - they still was unable to invade USA even after taking refineries in Dutch India.
And now they must buid those refineries themselves.
Yes,they would try to invade - when they can,which mean next 10 years.
Considering,that by that time USA would prepare,too,and Japan would be aware that USA have A bombs,i do not think that they try anytching then.

But,small war now? yes,it would happen,but since nobody could invade other side here,all we would have would be small wars.
 
Chapter 6: Battle of Astoria

Quickdraw101

Beware My Power-Green Lantern's Light
Off the Coast of Astoria, Oregon
United States of America
June 28th, 2024/November 17th 1943/December 17th 1907/July 1812
17 Days After The Event


Lieutenant Commander Akiji Tagami looked out at the scene before him with utter confusion and more than a little alarm.

Shortly before arriving at their destination off the Western Coast of the United States, a strange storm enveloped them, churning the seas above them, and forcing Tagami to keep his submarine beneath the waves longer than he wanted. The air inside I-25 was stale and foul, his batteries needed to be charged, which seemed to have been drained much quicker in the storm, and his men could use some time out in the sun. And his men going out on the deck meant they could shell targets on the California coast.

But when he reached periscope depth, and looked out at the coast, there were a few things that shocked him. The first and most obvious being the coastline. The volume of ship traffic, especially in naval vessels, was high. Disturbingly high. Even in regards to civilian merchant vessels, there were just so many of them, and so closely packed together. It’s as if the Americans forgot that there was even a war on.

Even the beaches were packed with civilians and soldiers both. Tagami couldn't have asked for a better cluster of targets than this. He gave the order to surface and for his crew to man their battle stations, and for the pilots aboard his submarine, to man their plane, and proceed with their mission to firebomb American targets of opportunity.

This was something the other submarine commanders had decided as well, as two more surfaced, men scrambling across the deck to the guns, and preparing the floatplanes for take off. At this point the Americans on the beaches had noticed the submarines, as did a number of the ships, including what appeared to be at least one destroyer with orange stripes across it. It didn’t matter. The 5.5 inch deck gun began to bark and high explosive shells flew into the nearby American town, sending the cowardly Americans fleeing for their lives.

To the south, an American cargo vessel burst into flames as two torpedoes from nearby sub slammed into it. Tagami watched in satisfaction as lifeboats were lowered into the water as flames overtook the ship. Another submarine’s deck gun had already claimed hits on another ship, a rather large ship, which was fleeing north as fast as it could. Even one of the four Yokosuka E14Y’s launched by a nearby sub had strafed the deck of the ship.

But that would be the end of Tagami’s, and the other submarines, good fortune. Only a few seconds later, a flight of red tailed fighters swarmed the floatplane, releasing a stream of bullets into the aircraft, shredding the airframe, and sending it tumbling down into the sea. And right as Lieutenant Commander turned his attention back towards the shore, his world went black.
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Warrant Flying Officer Nobuo Fujita and Petty Officer Okuda Shoji looked out at the scene before them in disbelief and more than a little fear. When they had surfaced off the American West Coast and given the order to launch, it was assumed they had caught the Americans off guard. The reports told them of the coastlines packed with ships and residential areas full of people. By the time they had gotten into the air with the other pilots of the Imperial Japanese Navy, one American ship was burning, another was being shelled and harassed by one of the other E14Y’s, and fires and shell craters could be seen along the beach.

However, Fujita and his observer soon found that the Americans were not ‘asleep at the switch’ as they liked to say. Just moments after getting airborne, the American reply was swift and brutal. A large assortment of planes ranging from PBY Catalinas, to previously unknown fighter models with red tails, swooped in on the small group of float planes and submarines.

Depth charges dropped from Catalinas and machine guns from fighters, and cannon fire from rapidly approaching US Navy destroyers and Coast Guard cutters bracketed the submarines, who put up a valiant, but ultimately futile resistance.

Even their own submarine, the I-25, was struck in the conning tower by the opening shot of a Coast Guard cutter, shearing through the conning tower of the submarine, followed by two more hits in rapid succession. The I-25 sank moments later, taking its crew down to a watery grave. Another submarine attempted an emergency dive, but a low flying SBD Dauntless dropped a 500 pound bomb directly where it was, followed a second later by a large explosion.

The two others fared little better. The captain of one put to flank speed, heading for the shore as fast as possible, and beaching itself as a dozen different fighters continuously strafed it. The fourth and final submarine had managed to dive quickly enough, but neither of the men doubted its eventual fate as its location was swarmed by American ships and planes.

Now realizing this was a one way trip, Fujita and the two remaining E14Y’s flew east, hoping to find suitable targets to strafe and bomb before they were shot down. A fate, Fujita noted, was inevitable. An inevitability reinforced by the fact that they were all taking fire from pursuing American war planes.

“There are many Americans following us!” Petty Officer Shoji said as he brought the Type 92 machine gun to bear on the American fighters.

“Just keep them off us for a little longer!” Fujita ordered. “I see targets up ahead!” Passing over the entrance to the Columbia River and over Fort Stevens, Fujita could see the town of Astoria, and its port facilities, directly ahead.

“We have American ships in port directly ahead!” Said the pilot of the plane to Fujita’s port side, before the plane burst into flames from a pursuing P-40 Warhawk, who continued to pump bullets into the stricken plane even as it spiraled down in flames directly into the river below.

Fujita jinked his plane the best he could to avoid the incoming fire, but the Americans were just more maneuverable, and far too numerous. He could feel the impact of bullets as he shook his plane, but was unable to do anything about it. Fujita just needed a little bit longer, and he’d be directly over the port facilities ahead.

His wingman off starboard went down next, those red tailed devil planes shearing his wing off with cannon fire, and forcing him to crash into the waters just off Fort Stevens. He scowled, putting his plane through its paces and desperately trying to get more speed from the engine. And then, just as he could begin to make out the shape, Fujita saw something out of the corner of his eye rapidly approaching from the south.

“Sir, the Americans are pulling back!” Petty Officer Shoji said, very obviously confused. “Why would they…” he paused, glancing over to his left and seeing a formation of arrow shaped aircraft heading directly towards them.

“INCOMING!” Fujita shouted as the strange planes emitted a loud roar which drowned out the sound of even their own engine, and deafened them. One of the planes passed maybe a dozen meters overhead, and a jet of hot air slammed into the plane, forcing it into a hard right downward turn.

Fujita tried to fight the turbulence and regain control of the aircraft, but another of the strange planes flew directly over them again, once more knocking them around like a toy, and sending them dangerously low to the river’s surface. Petty Officer Shoji tried desperately to fire on them, but they were just too fast. And then, a flight of P-40 Warhawks flew in from 5 O’Clock High, riddling the starboard wing and fuselage with bullets, and killing Shoji instantly.

His engine caught fire and his controls were dead. Slowly, but steadily, he was going down. Behind him, the P-40’s pulled off from their pursuit, and on the water, a host of fast boats were following him, or heading to his likely point of crashing. He couldn’t bail out, not this low, and especially not with a parachute. He had his Nambu pistol and an extra magazine for it. If he survived the crash, Fujita would make the Americans pay before he died.

If he survived. As the plane finally made contact with the water, he jerked forward in his seat, and everything went black.
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“Bully!” President Theodore Roosevelt exclaimed as he watched two M1128 Mobile Gun Systems rumble past, heading towards the main gate of Camp Withycombe, followed by two upgunned Humvees. “This is just bully! Look at those mighty guns! Tell me young man, just what are those lovely wheeled fortresses, and what caliber are those beautiful guns!”

“Stryker Mobile Gun Systems, Mr President!” Replied Private First Class Daniel O’Rourke. “And the gun itself fires 105 millimeter rounds.”

“Four point one inch guns,” Commented Major General Leonard Wood as he stared in awe at the small convoy of light armored vehicles passing by. “Those are light naval guns you got there, and you mean to tell me we had much bigger than that in the time you came from?” He asked.

“Yes sir, we do. Tanks and artillery pieces mostly. Those go up to 155 millimeters in size.”

“It's a damn shame when the Army has bigger guns than the Navy does.” Admiral Evans huffed. “The guns I’ve seen on most of these ships, yours included, are glorified peashooters in comparison to the guns of our battleships!”

“Your battleships don’t have an answer to a 500 pound bomb that can hit any part of a ship with pinpoint accuracy. Especially when those parts include the bridge or directly atop where the ammunition is stored.” Replied one of the uptime naval officers, right as President Roosevelt stepped out into the street in front of a slowly approaching MGS, and began to call out.

“Now just a moment there, soldiers! I want to see this big, lumbering beast up close! By God Leonard, do you see this wonderful machine!” He said as the vehicle came to a halt, and began to climb atop it, much to the chagrin of the driver, and amusement of those watching the procedures. “Private O’Rourke, do be a lad and use that incredibly tiny camera of yours, and get me a picture with this gun!”

“Yes sir, Mr President,” O’Rourke said, wasting no time to pull out his phone, and set up the camera app. All the while General Leonard Wood and Admiral Evans looked on at the display in complete bewilderment. Both the President’s behavior and the incredibly tiny ‘cell phone’ had left both men absolutely speechless. “All set sir! Ready whenever you are!”

“Bully!” Roosevelt said, slapping the barrel of the M1128, and leaning his right arm along the length of the gun, while staring directly ahead. One audible click later, signifying the picture was taken, O’Rourke gave the president a thumbs up, which was returned with a very wide, and very amused smile. “Thank you for humoring me, soldiers. Now I understand that you boys have a job to do, and I shall leave you to it! Good day!”

“The history books weren’t exaggerating,” PFC Jennings commented. “The man really was this energetic and vibrant.”

“That’s the man who charged up San Juan Hill in 1898 and took a bullet to the chest and kept on giving his speech.” Another soldier added.

“Now, Private O’Rourke, let me take a look at this photograph you took of me!” He said, walking up to O’Rourke, and looking at the tiny screen with a look of pure, untamed excitement and wonder. Colored photos existed in 1907, but not like the kind an IPhone or Android could take and produce. To President Roosevelt, it was as if he was staring at a mirror image of himself, a moment frozen in time in its exact detail. “Leonard, Evans, get over here and see this magnificent photograph! No, no, how about letting this young man take a picture of you gentlemen as well! O’Rourke, point that lovely contraption at them and take a photograph!”

General Wood, Admiral Evans, and the rest of the assorted cabinet that Roosevelt had brought along looked absolutely befuddled at the scene before them. Seeing the president be overtaken with such childlike glee at the sight of these pieces of futuristic technology, at a time like this was concerning. Despite the current crisis which had the country split into three different periods of time, and despite the fact that the United States was under attack by Japan, his spirit was still high.

But just as quickly as he had become joyous and upbeat, he became serious once more.

“Now soldiers, I do believe we have business to attend to, and plans to formulate against these dastardly Japanese cowards! Who do they think they are, bombing innocent women and children on the beach! We’ll show those pussycats what for! And the Kaiser if he so wishes to cause trouble as well!” Roosevelt declared defiantly. “Now lead us to this ‘Tactical Operations Center’ your officers and sergeants are talking about!”
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Springfield Listening Array
Springfield Air National Guard Base
Springfield, Oregon
18 Days Post Event


“Just what the hell is going on out there?” Captain Alex Hoffman exclaimed as he entered the Tactical Operations Center of the fledgling Air Force base.

Over the last 24 hours things had gone from bad to worse. While they had been aware of some chatter from the Germans about sending a punitive expedition to the Caribbean, and specifically Cuba and Puerto Rico, there didn’t seem to be anything indicating that it was more than just talk. The news that a German naval fleet had left Wilhelmshaven and was heading towards the United States had already angered President Roosevelt and had many in the government and military worried.

However, due to the transatlantic cables between America and Germany being present, as well as intercepted radio reports, indicated the fleet was on a diplomatic mission to the United States. They proclaimed their intention on visiting New York City and re-establishing relations with the United States, and seeking help against the Japanese Empire.

That knowledge had helped calm down many in the government, until the events of yesterday. Four Japanese submarines surfaced off the coast of Oregon and began lobbing shells at the beach and residential houses, while also launching seaplanes loaded with small bombs. While all four submarines and their accompanying planes were destroyed, they had sunk one ship, damaged another, and killed five civilians in Oregon.

President Roosevelt, as well as governor Kotek, and virtually the entire military command was infuriated. Despite having sunk the offending Japanese submarines fairly quickly, the fact they had even managed to get close at all was a humiliating defeat in its own right. With how militarized the West Coast was, nothing short of a 21st century submarine should have been able to get that close. At least, not unless it somehow got right behind the Navy’s defensive perimeter. Then there was the presence of two Imperial Japanese Navy Kawanishi HK8 Flying boats that had appeared on radar extremely close to Hawaii only one hour later.

The two planes appeared out of a small storm, and were met with over 30 P-40 Warhawks vectored to meet them in the air. Both were swarmed and shot down with both crews being killed in the engagement. From this point onwards the entire West Coast, including Hawaii and Alaska, were on full alert. Even forces all along the East Coast and in the Caribbean were on full alert, in case any German U-Boats happened to show up, or anything else.

“I-I’m honestly not sure, sir,” First Lieutenant Denise Harper said, standing up from her console, picking up the report print out given to her by one of her subordinates on the listening equipment. “We’re picking up a number of frantic transmissions from all over the Western Pacific.” She handed him the printout and Hoffman took it. He scanned through the first page, eyes going wide at what was written on the first page. He flipped to the second, again he quickly skimmed through it, which he repeated with several other pages, before looking back at Harper, confusion and disbelief written across his face.

“You’ve got to be shitting me!” Hoffman exclaimed, looking back down at the report in his hand.

“I’m afraid not sir,” She said. “The Japanese have been screaming about this for the last half day or so. And as for the other radio transmissions we’ve picked up, there’s no way those are coming from any IJN warship. And we’re both familiar with those signal types and encryptions. Not only is this well above anything the Japanese have, they wouldn’t know any of these callsigns or identifiers. These are legitimate.”

“Jesus Christ,” Hoffman sighed, shaking his head while flipping through the pages again.

Radio reports of a Japanese battleship hitting a mine and being subsequently torpedoed. Japanese forces engaging what appeared to be a midget submarine which torpedoed a cruiser before being sunk. Another report about a midget submarine running aground on a beach in Japan, and armed men fleeing into the surrounding area.

Then there was what was indisputably modern radio signals and intercepts coming from the Western Pacific, in Korean, Japanese, Chinese, and even English. The data link with the few satellites in orbit had triangulated one group of signals off the coast of Hainan Island. It was there that radio intercepts from a Japanese scout plane reported two strange and unidentified vessels, before abruptly being cut off.

“Are they still transmitting right now?” Hoffman asked, flipping to the last page, his gaze became fixated on the name of an island that was synonymous with the brutality of the Pacific Campaign in World War Two.

Iwo Jima.
 

ATP

Well-known member
Off the Coast of Astoria, Oregon
United States of America
June 28th, 2024/November 17th 1943/December 17th 1907/July 1812
17 Days After The Event


Lieutenant Commander Akiji Tagami looked out at the scene before him with utter confusion and more than a little alarm.

Shortly before arriving at their destination off the Western Coast of the United States, a strange storm enveloped them, churning the seas above them, and forcing Tagami to keep his submarine beneath the waves longer than he wanted. The air inside I-25 was stale and foul, his batteries needed to be charged, which seemed to have been drained much quicker in the storm, and his men could use some time out in the sun. And his men going out on the deck meant they could shell targets on the California coast.

But when he reached periscope depth, and looked out at the coast, there were a few things that shocked him. The first and most obvious being the coastline. The volume of ship traffic, especially in naval vessels, was high. Disturbingly high. Even in regards to civilian merchant vessels, there were just so many of them, and so closely packed together. It’s as if the Americans forgot that there was even a war on.

Even the beaches were packed with civilians and soldiers both. Tagami couldn't have asked for a better cluster of targets than this. He gave the order to surface and for his crew to man their battle stations, and for the pilots aboard his submarine, to man their plane, and proceed with their mission to firebomb American targets of opportunity.

This was something the other submarine commanders had decided as well, as two more surfaced, men scrambling across the deck to the guns, and preparing the floatplanes for take off. At this point the Americans on the beaches had noticed the submarines, as did a number of the ships, including what appeared to be at least one destroyer with orange stripes across it. It didn’t matter. The 5.5 inch deck gun began to bark and high explosive shells flew into the nearby American town, sending the cowardly Americans fleeing for their lives.

To the south, an American cargo vessel burst into flames as two torpedoes from nearby sub slammed into it. Tagami watched in satisfaction as lifeboats were lowered into the water as flames overtook the ship. Another submarine’s deck gun had already claimed hits on another ship, a rather large ship, which was fleeing north as fast as it could. Even one of the four Yokosuka E14Y’s launched by a nearby sub had strafed the deck of the ship.

But that would be the end of Tagami’s, and the other submarines, good fortune. Only a few seconds later, a flight of red tailed fighters swarmed the floatplane, releasing a stream of bullets into the aircraft, shredding the airframe, and sending it tumbling down into the sea. And right as Lieutenant Commander turned his attention back towards the shore, his world went black.
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Warrant Flying Officer Nobuo Fujita and Petty Officer Okuda Shoji looked out at the scene before them in disbelief and more than a little fear. When they had surfaced off the American West Coast and given the order to launch, it was assumed they had caught the Americans off guard. The reports told them of the coastlines packed with ships and residential areas full of people. By the time they had gotten into the air with the other pilots of the Imperial Japanese Navy, one American ship was burning, another was being shelled and harassed by one of the other E14Y’s, and fires and shell craters could be seen along the beach.

However, Fujita and his observer soon found that the Americans were not ‘asleep at the switch’ as they liked to say. Just moments after getting airborne, the American reply was swift and brutal. A large assortment of planes ranging from PBY Catalinas, to previously unknown fighter models with red tails, swooped in on the small group of float planes and submarines.

Depth charges dropped from Catalinas and machine guns from fighters, and cannon fire from rapidly approaching US Navy destroyers and Coast Guard cutters bracketed the submarines, who put up a valiant, but ultimately futile resistance.

Even their own submarine, the I-25, was struck in the conning tower by the opening shot of a Coast Guard cutter, shearing through the conning tower of the submarine, followed by two more hits in rapid succession. The I-25 sank moments later, taking its crew down to a watery grave. Another submarine attempted an emergency dive, but a low flying SBD Dauntless dropped a 500 pound bomb directly where it was, followed a second later by a large explosion.

The two others fared little better. The captain of one put to flank speed, heading for the shore as fast as possible, and beaching itself as a dozen different fighters continuously strafed it. The fourth and final submarine had managed to dive quickly enough, but neither of the men doubted its eventual fate as its location was swarmed by American ships and planes.

Now realizing this was a one way trip, Fujita and the two remaining E14Y’s flew east, hoping to find suitable targets to strafe and bomb before they were shot down. A fate, Fujita noted, was inevitable. An inevitability reinforced by the fact that they were all taking fire from pursuing American war planes.

“There are many Americans following us!” Petty Officer Shoji said as he brought the Type 92 machine gun to bear on the American fighters.

“Just keep them off us for a little longer!” Fujita ordered. “I see targets up ahead!” Passing over the entrance to the Columbia River and over Fort Stevens, Fujita could see the town of Astoria, and its port facilities, directly ahead.

“We have American ships in port directly ahead!” Said the pilot of the plane to Fujita’s port side, before the plane burst into flames from a pursuing P-40 Warhawk, who continued to pump bullets into the stricken plane even as it spiraled down in flames directly into the river below.

Fujita jinked his plane the best he could to avoid the incoming fire, but the Americans were just more maneuverable, and far too numerous. He could feel the impact of bullets as he shook his plane, but was unable to do anything about it. Fujita just needed a little bit longer, and he’d be directly over the port facilities ahead.

His wingman off starboard went down next, those red tailed devil planes shearing his wing off with cannon fire, and forcing him to crash into the waters just off Fort Stevens. He scowled, putting his plane through its paces and desperately trying to get more speed from the engine. And then, just as he could begin to make out the shape, Fujita saw something out of the corner of his eye rapidly approaching from the south.

“Sir, the Americans are pulling back!” Petty Officer Shoji said, very obviously confused. “Why would they…” he paused, glancing over to his left and seeing a formation of arrow shaped aircraft heading directly towards them.

“INCOMING!” Fujita shouted as the strange planes emitted a loud roar which drowned out the sound of even their own engine, and deafened them. One of the planes passed maybe a dozen meters overhead, and a jet of hot air slammed into the plane, forcing it into a hard right downward turn.

Fujita tried to fight the turbulence and regain control of the aircraft, but another of the strange planes flew directly over them again, once more knocking them around like a toy, and sending them dangerously low to the river’s surface. Petty Officer Shoji tried desperately to fire on them, but they were just too fast. And then, a flight of P-40 Warhawks flew in from 5 O’Clock High, riddling the starboard wing and fuselage with bullets, and killing Shoji instantly.

His engine caught fire and his controls were dead. Slowly, but steadily, he was going down. Behind him, the P-40’s pulled off from their pursuit, and on the water, a host of fast boats were following him, or heading to his likely point of crashing. He couldn’t bail out, not this low, and especially not with a parachute. He had his Nambu pistol and an extra magazine for it. If he survived the crash, Fujita would make the Americans pay before he died.

If he survived. As the plane finally made contact with the water, he jerked forward in his seat, and everything went black.
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“Bully!” President Theodore Roosevelt exclaimed as he watched two M1128 Mobile Gun Systems rumble past, heading towards the main gate of Camp Withycombe, followed by two upgunned Humvees. “This is just bully! Look at those mighty guns! Tell me young man, just what are those lovely wheeled fortresses, and what caliber are those beautiful guns!”

“Stryker Mobile Gun Systems, Mr President!” Replied Private First Class Daniel O’Rourke. “And the gun itself fires 105 millimeter rounds.”

“Four point one inch guns,” Commented Major General Leonard Wood as he stared in awe at the small convoy of light armored vehicles passing by. “Those are light naval guns you got there, and you mean to tell me we had much bigger than that in the time you came from?” He asked.

“Yes sir, we do. Tanks and artillery pieces mostly. Those go up to 155 millimeters in size.”

“It's a damn shame when the Army has bigger guns than the Navy does.” Admiral Evans huffed. “The guns I’ve seen on most of these ships, yours included, are glorified peashooters in comparison to the guns of our battleships!”

“Your battleships don’t have an answer to a 500 pound bomb that can hit any part of a ship with pinpoint accuracy. Especially when those parts include the bridge or directly atop where the ammunition is stored.” Replied one of the uptime naval officers, right as President Roosevelt stepped out into the street in front of a slowly approaching MGS, and began to call out.

“Now just a moment there, soldiers! I want to see this big, lumbering beast up close! By God Leonard, do you see this wonderful machine!” He said as the vehicle came to a halt, and began to climb atop it, much to the chagrin of the driver, and amusement of those watching the procedures. “Private O’Rourke, do be a lad and use that incredibly tiny camera of yours, and get me a picture with this gun!”

“Yes sir, Mr President,” O’Rourke said, wasting no time to pull out his phone, and set up the camera app. All the while General Leonard Wood and Admiral Evans looked on at the display in complete bewilderment. Both the President’s behavior and the incredibly tiny ‘cell phone’ had left both men absolutely speechless. “All set sir! Ready whenever you are!”

“Bully!” Roosevelt said, slapping the barrel of the M1128, and leaning his right arm along the length of the gun, while staring directly ahead. One audible click later, signifying the picture was taken, O’Rourke gave the president a thumbs up, which was returned with a very wide, and very amused smile. “Thank you for humoring me, soldiers. Now I understand that you boys have a job to do, and I shall leave you to it! Good day!”

“The history books weren’t exaggerating,” PFC Jennings commented. “The man really was this energetic and vibrant.”

“That’s the man who charged up San Juan Hill in 1898 and took a bullet to the chest and kept on giving his speech.” Another soldier added.

“Now, Private O’Rourke, let me take a look at this photograph you took of me!” He said, walking up to O’Rourke, and looking at the tiny screen with a look of pure, untamed excitement and wonder. Colored photos existed in 1907, but not like the kind an IPhone or Android could take and produce. To President Roosevelt, it was as if he was staring at a mirror image of himself, a moment frozen in time in its exact detail. “Leonard, Evans, get over here and see this magnificent photograph! No, no, how about letting this young man take a picture of you gentlemen as well! O’Rourke, point that lovely contraption at them and take a photograph!”

General Wood, Admiral Evans, and the rest of the assorted cabinet that Roosevelt had brought along looked absolutely befuddled at the scene before them. Seeing the president be overtaken with such childlike glee at the sight of these pieces of futuristic technology, at a time like this was concerning. Despite the current crisis which had the country split into three different periods of time, and despite the fact that the United States was under attack by Japan, his spirit was still high.

But just as quickly as he had become joyous and upbeat, he became serious once more.

“Now soldiers, I do believe we have business to attend to, and plans to formulate against these dastardly Japanese cowards! Who do they think they are, bombing innocent women and children on the beach! We’ll show those pussycats what for! And the Kaiser if he so wishes to cause trouble as well!” Roosevelt declared defiantly. “Now lead us to this ‘Tactical Operations Center’ your officers and sergeants are talking about!”
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Springfield Listening Array
Springfield Air National Guard Base
Springfield, Oregon
18 Days Post Event


“Just what the hell is going on out there?” Captain Alex Hoffman exclaimed as he entered the Tactical Operations Center of the fledgling Air Force base.

Over the last 24 hours things had gone from bad to worse. While they had been aware of some chatter from the Germans about sending a punitive expedition to the Caribbean, and specifically Cuba and Puerto Rico, there didn’t seem to be anything indicating that it was more than just talk. The news that a German naval fleet had left Wilhelmshaven and was heading towards the United States had already angered President Roosevelt and had many in the government and military worried.

However, due to the transatlantic cables between America and Germany being present, as well as intercepted radio reports, indicated the fleet was on a diplomatic mission to the United States. They proclaimed their intention on visiting New York City and re-establishing relations with the United States, and seeking help against the Japanese Empire.

That knowledge had helped calm down many in the government, until the events of yesterday. Four Japanese submarines surfaced off the coast of Oregon and began lobbing shells at the beach and residential houses, while also launching seaplanes loaded with small bombs. While all four submarines and their accompanying planes were destroyed, they had sunk one ship, damaged another, and killed five civilians in Oregon.

President Roosevelt, as well as governor Kotek, and virtually the entire military command was infuriated. Despite having sunk the offending Japanese submarines fairly quickly, the fact they had even managed to get close at all was a humiliating defeat in its own right. With how militarized the West Coast was, nothing short of a 21st century submarine should have been able to get that close. At least, not unless it somehow got right behind the Navy’s defensive perimeter. Then there was the presence of two Imperial Japanese Navy Kawanishi HK8 Flying boats that had appeared on radar extremely close to Hawaii only one hour later.

The two planes appeared out of a small storm, and were met with over 30 P-40 Warhawks vectored to meet them in the air. Both were swarmed and shot down with both crews being killed in the engagement. From this point onwards the entire West Coast, including Hawaii and Alaska, were on full alert. Even forces all along the East Coast and in the Caribbean were on full alert, in case any German U-Boats happened to show up, or anything else.

“I-I’m honestly not sure, sir,” First Lieutenant Denise Harper said, standing up from her console, picking up the report print out given to her by one of her subordinates on the listening equipment. “We’re picking up a number of frantic transmissions from all over the Western Pacific.” She handed him the printout and Hoffman took it. He scanned through the first page, eyes going wide at what was written on the first page. He flipped to the second, again he quickly skimmed through it, which he repeated with several other pages, before looking back at Harper, confusion and disbelief written across his face.

“You’ve got to be shitting me!” Hoffman exclaimed, looking back down at the report in his hand.

“I’m afraid not sir,” She said. “The Japanese have been screaming about this for the last half day or so. And as for the other radio transmissions we’ve picked up, there’s no way those are coming from any IJN warship. And we’re both familiar with those signal types and encryptions. Not only is this well above anything the Japanese have, they wouldn’t know any of these callsigns or identifiers. These are legitimate.”

“Jesus Christ,” Hoffman sighed, shaking his head while flipping through the pages again.

Radio reports of a Japanese battleship hitting a mine and being subsequently torpedoed. Japanese forces engaging what appeared to be a midget submarine which torpedoed a cruiser before being sunk. Another report about a midget submarine running aground on a beach in Japan, and armed men fleeing into the surrounding area.

Then there was what was indisputably modern radio signals and intercepts coming from the Western Pacific, in Korean, Japanese, Chinese, and even English. The data link with the few satellites in orbit had triangulated one group of signals off the coast of Hainan Island. It was there that radio intercepts from a Japanese scout plane reported two strange and unidentified vessels, before abruptly being cut off.

“Are they still transmitting right now?” Hoffman asked, flipping to the last page, his gaze became fixated on the name of an island that was synonymous with the brutality of the Pacific Campaign in World War Two.

Iwo Jima.
Thanks for chapter !
Japaneese subs should hit more ships with their torpedoes,and Kaiser germany still use coal for fleet so they could not help against Japan - but,aside from that, logical story.

P.S midhet subs with crews running into countryside seems like North Korea.Dudes worst then imperial Japan - i hope USA here do not help them.
Two strange ships - probably the same,or China commies.Again,not worth helping - but,if Japan manage to capture them,they could find useful technology there.
 

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Iwo Jima is home of the JSDF and USN, the JMSDF and JASDF has a base there, the JGSDF operate a construction and EOD Unit
Thanks,so there are americans and 2023 japaneese forces there? poor dudes,USA could not help them.I hope,that they manage to run away on their ships.
But - midget subs still seems like North Korea to me.Nobody use that now.
 
Thanks,so there are americans and 2023 japaneese forces there? poor dudes,USA could not help them.I hope,that they manage to run away on their ships.
But - midget subs still seems like North Korea to me.Nobody use that now.
More like the US Navy and allied Navies will have to keep open a corridor for evacuation and if not capable, destroy all equipment.
 

ATP

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More like the US Navy and allied Navies will have to keep open a corridor for evacuation and if not capable, destroy all equipment.
I hope that thehy could do that - but midget subs still seems like North Koreans here.
Well,no matter what happen,Japan from 1941 could not invade USA,Kaiser germany could not invade other continents,too,and mixed USA could not invade others,too.

So,unless they decide to nuke their enemies,Japan would keep most of Asia and Pacyfic,Germany would keep Europe and part of Africa and maybe Asia,and USA would keep both Americas,Australia and maybe part of Africa.

To be honest,i do not see any major war here during next 10-20 years,bceouse nobody would be capable of doing so.
 
Chapter 7: Battle of New York

Quickdraw101

Beware My Power-Green Lantern's Light
Springfield Listening Array
Springfield Air National Guard Base
Springfield, Oregon
18 Days Post Event


"Yes sir, we're still in contact with them right now, as well as the Japanese Coast Guard on Marcus Island. They seem to have figured out what's going on right now and are staying put. We told them we would try to send help, but there's no guarantee we can."

"Yeah, well I can guarantee you that not one person in the military or government wants the JSDF garrison, all their equipment, and the hundreds of Americans and Australians on Iwo Jima falling into the hands of the Japanese Empire." Hoffman said, running a hand through his hair as he let out an exasperated sigh. "And the rest of this…is a clusterfuck."

In addition to Iwo Jima, the inhabited islands of the Ogasawara subprefecture were now present in this world. A collection of small, but modern islands with a population around 3,000 people, with examples of modern technology and knowledge of history. All of that just six hundred miles south of the Japanese mainland.

"I think that's putting it lightly, sir. We already have many clamoring for war with the Japanese and this isn't going to make it any better. Especially when many in Japan also want war with the United States." She said.

"The perfect storm of events to start a war that we're unprepared for," Hoffman began, going down to the summary of the report on the bottom of the page, and reading the list of callsigns and ship names present. "Most of these damn ships should have been sunk! Good lord, this is going to be a damn mess." Harper merely nodded her head in response to her Flight Commander's frustration.

She and her unit had picked up transmissions from no fewer than three United States Navy ships and at least two Republic of Korea Navy ships operating in the Yellow Sea. They were operating very far from home and dangerously close to the shores of Japan, whose navy was already on high alert. But what unnerved her the most was the names of the ships in question, and the year they claimed to be from.

The ROKS Cheonan, a Pohang Class Corvette sunk by North Korea in 2010, was the first ship identified, which startled a number of them. The next was PKM 357, a Chamsuri Class Patrol Boat sunk during the 2002 Battle of Yeonpyeong. The three American ships identified themselves as the USS Curtis Wilbur, USS Shiloh, and USS Harpers Ferry. The exact three ships who helped in the search for the sunken Cheonan, of which two were sunk in the last major clash with the Chinese Navy.

All of the crews aboard the five ships were at a loss for what had happened, and initially refused to believe Harper's claims about being sent back in time. That was until a flight of Mitsubishi Zeroes flew too close to the small flotilla of ships, attacked them, and were swatted from the sky with trivial ease.

From that point onward, Harper and everyone else with radio contact told them to sail south and get out of the area as soon as possible. They would be running a dangerous gauntlet against the Japanese, but it was their only chance to avoid complete annihilation. Further south, three more ships, two Japanese, and one Korean, were identified.

They were JS Yūbari, JS Matsuyuki, and ROKS Seoul. Three destroyers, all with equally confused and dazed crewmen, who were also unaware of what happened until they too were attacked, and repulsed said attackers. The eight ships knew they were in hostile territory and began a desperate attempt to meet up, and break out of Japanese territory.

Near Hainan, what was assumed to be the Jiangdao Class Corvette Liupanshui, and Houjian Class Missile Boat Panyu, were sailing at flank speed towards the Paracel Islands, which were also broadcasting panicked messages that could be heard in Oregon.

Finally, between Iwo Jima and the rest of the islands of the Ogasawara subprefecture, were two JMSDF replenishment vessels, JDS Sagami and Hamana, two destroyers, the JS Kurama and JS Ishikari, and an Ojika Class Patrol Vessel of the Japanese Coast Guard based at Marcus Island. There was also a photo taken by a satellite in orbit that suggested an unknown submarine was headed for mainland Japan, but no signals could be linked to it.

Those ships, combined with the single Hayabusa Class Patrol Boat and an Australian Adelaide Class Frigate near Iwo Jima on a training exercise, made for a very formidable force of modern naval power. But that of course assumed the ships weren't destroyed piecemeal by Imperial Japanese Naval forces, or downtime American Naval forces whose first instinct would be to fire on any ship with a Japanese flag.

"We're gonna have a lot of orphaned ships here on the West Coast, although I have no idea where the hell we can put them." Harper commented. "Our facilities in Oregon are at damn near full capacity and putting them in California or Washington isn't happening."

"That assumes we can get them to the West Coast," Hoffman said darkly. "They could get swarmed by overwhelming numbers of Japanese ships and planes and sunk or the various Japanese ships might just decide to return to their homelands, and we'll have even more problems than we do now." Harper frowned at her Flight Commander's suggestion.

"You really think that'll happen, do you?" She said, raising an eyebrow at him.

"I honestly have no idea," he shrugged. "Like with the Germans, many of those in the Japanese military are right wing leaning or conservatives. Sure, I don't believe any of them will turn into banzai charging fanatics, but they would love to see Japan maintain its status as a great military power, without suffering the humiliating defeat of World War Two."

"Even if that means siding with an Empire who'd view most of them as degenerates and too soft?" Harper argued. "Many of them are women, and you can't tell me that will go over well with them."

"I'm not saying it would, but I am saying that many Japanese even today still view Japan as a victim in World War Two, and that's not even touching the atomic bombs." Hoffman's tone now changed to one of frustration. "And if they see a chance to prevent their country from going down the road they took in the first place, they would do it. And just the knowledge of each individual sailor alone would be worth its weight in gold to Japan. Especially our capabilities and weaknesses."

"Like our listening arrays here and in Hawaii," Harper said. "Or that we've broken Japanese Naval Codes, and can listen to them freely."

"That's just one issue we've been discussing lately. Granted, that was before a dozen Japanese ships appeared across the Pacific, with intentions we can only take a guess at." Hoffman paused, letting out another tired, frustrated sigh. "And of course this is before we get into the Bonin or fucking Paracel Islands. Japan will not give those up without a fight, but at the same time, neither can we." He shook his head in frustration. "Thanks for the heads up, Harper." He said, his face and expression softening.

"What do we do now, sir?"

"Right now I need you to stay online with those ships, keep the channels open, and let our sailors in Portland know what's going on. Maybe the Tico we got here can get in contact with them too. I'm gonna report this to our commander, and from there lord only knows what we'll do." As he turned to leave, he was met by a weary and pale faced A1C, with bloodshot eyes filled with pain and anger."

"A high priority report from Pease, sir," The young man said, his voice cracking as he handed Hoffman the manila folder he held. "They got the Statue of Liberty sir. They blew her fucking head off."

When he said that, everyone in the room turned to look at the man, expressions ranging from shock to outright disbelief.

"Bullshit!" One of the Staff Sergeants in the room said. Harper's hands tightened into fists and her nails dug into her palms, while Hoffman's eyes twitched uncontrollably for a few seconds, rage threatening to burst forth. He took the folder, opened it, and was met with a summary of events having just taken place off New York City, with accompanying photographs.

"God help us all," Hoffman said, handing the folder off to Lieutenant Harper, who was surrounded by the Section Chief and NCOIC of her team. Chief Williams looked as if he were about to explode, while Technical Sergeant O'Hare just stared blankly at the horrifying photos.

There stood the Statue of Liberty, her upper torso gone! While the arm holding the torch jutted out from the waters around Liberty Island, her entire torso above the tabula ansata was just gone. Debris lay scattered all around Liberty Island and chunks lay just visible in the water. Near the entrance to the Lower Bay, sat a burning monitor, the USS Puritan.

Another photo, taken from the camera of a Coast Guard helicopter, showed the culprit; A German Scharnhorst Class Battleship.

By the time the photo was taken, the ship, identified as the German Battleship Scharnhorst, was dead in the water. It burned in the waters just a few miles east of Fort Hancock, as several American Battleships surrounded, and pounded the ship to pieces with their main guns. Directly ahead of the Scharnhorst in the Lower Bay was the battleship USS Alabama, alongside the armored cruisers USS New York, and USS Brooklyn, acting as a blocking force to prevent further movement into the bay ahead of the German ship.

Behind it, the battleship Connecticut, the lead ship of the Great White Fleet, as well as the battleships Virginia, Illinois, and Missouri, shelled the Scharnhorst unceasingly.

Another set of photos showed another German Battleship burning off Long Island, as the fast battleship USS Massachusetts ran her down, with battleships New York and newer Texas in hot pursuit. The time lapse photos showed her taking multiple hits, listing heavily to port, and fires raging on her deck.

The next two photos, which would become an icon of American Naval Aviation, showed the crippling of the mighty Gneisenau.

An SBD dropped a 1,000 pound bomb on the armored deck of the Scharnhorst, penetrating the deck just ahead of the forward turret, detonating the ammunition magazine. A strike which was followed up by a torpedo hit by an SB2U Vindicator, destroying the propellers, and leaving it dead in the water.

Unable to escape, and two of her turrets already rendered inoperable, the American battleships and their escorting cruisers, and overhead dive bombers, let loose with a merciless barrage against the Germans. A direct hit from Massachusetts destroyed its third and final turret, while the Texas scored a direct hit on the bridge.

The final summary detailed below, dated as being finalized not even half an hour ago, stated the two German warships were still sinking, and that surviving sailors were being picked up and executed. It was hinted in the summary that feelings of mercy were quite low between Americans from all three time periods. Fires still raged in New York from shells that landed around the city. While casualties were still being counted, they were most certainly in the thousands. Three Battleships, the Kearsarge, Kentucky, and Maine, were sunk outright by the German battleships, as well as the monitor Puritan.

Many others sustained minor to severe damage, like the USS Indiana, who beached herself on the beaches of Fort Hancock to avoid sinking.

"President Roosevelt is gonna be out for blood," One of the airmen in the room spoke aloud, falling back into his chair, and staring up at the ceiling.

"Roosevelt is gonna be out for blood?" Harper said incredulously, her normally calm demeanor disappearing, and her native New York accent slipped out. "Chief Williams is from New York, I'm from New York! And our home just got attacked!"

"Right when the Germans announce their sending a fleet to New York on a diplomatic mission," Hoffman said tiredly.

"Something tells me that fleet isn't gonna get close to New York now." Technical Sergeant O'Hare said.

"Oh it will, at least part of it. They'll just be under the guns of the entire Atlantic Fleet, begging them to step out of line just once." Hoffman said, flipping through the last few pages of the report, and sighing. "Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be in for a long next couple of days."

The secondary report detailed other radio transmission, more numerous, coming from Germany and locations around the Northern Atlantic. Modern transmissions, mirroring that of those in the Pacific, albeit with some rather outdated broadband frequencies and callsigns being used.

"So what the fuck do we do now?"
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Dorm 5
Springfield ANG Base
18 Days Post Event
0930 Hours


When 1st Lieutenant Denise Harper finally got off duty at just past 0900 hours today, the United States was in an uproar. President Roosevelt, upon being informed of the attack on New York City, and the damage wrought by the Germans, he wept. When she was finally alone in the confines of her own room, away from the world, and behind thick walls and a locked door, she too had wept.

Like President Roosevelt, New York City was her home. Even if the New York City that existed now was a relic from the early 20th century, it was still New York! The Brooklyn Bridge, Central Park, The Statue of Liberty, all still existed even in 1907, even if they weren't upgraded to the modern specifications she was used to. They all meant something to her, reminded Harper of her childhood, family, and of life. About how her parents always took her to the Statue of Liberty when she was little, how her father explained what it meant to him, and what it should mean to her as well.

And it did mean a lot to her. She wasn't a conservative by any stretch, she did love her country, and the ideals it should stand for. Ideals it stood up for in Korea, Taiwan, the Baltics, and Guyana, all in her lifetime. Ideals her country failed to uphold in the disasters that were the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars.

Seeing such a renowned and loved symbol of American freedom and ideals being blown in half by Nazi battleships, one of the last few things in this world that reminded her of her old life, hurt her. It hurt millions of Americans across the country, in all three time displaced sections. A news helicopter from New Hampshire, flying against the 'No Fly' order in place to preserve aviation fuel and aircraft for emergency use only, broadcast a live feed of the carnage in New York City that hundreds of thousands of Americans saw.

American morale was already low due to so many millions of Americans being ripped from their respective periods in time, and thrown into this world. The fact that they'd likely never see any of their families again had produced an atmosphere of dread and depression. No one knew if something like this would happen again or who it might take if it did.

Then the attacks on Oregon and New York happened. Thousands of Americans were dead, several major warships had been sunk, and America's largest city was dealt a great deal of damage. And while the perpetrators had been killed or captured, the United States wanted blood. There was just one problem with that.

Imperial Germany was not Nazi Germany, and the two Scharnhorst Battleships that attacked New York City were not those of the Kaiserliche Marine. The situation with the Japanese submarines was even more complicated. While they did belong to Japan, interrogations of the surviving pilot shot down in Astoria had revealed that the submarine he had launched from, and likely those accompanying his, were from 1942.

An actual attack from either nation had yet to occur. The closest there was to any real combat was a few Japanese scout planes shot down over the Philippines by American ships in the region. And while more Japanese ships were surrounding the Philippines, recent events across the Pacific had their fleet scattering in multiple directions. However, it looked as if America and Japan were destined for a showdown in the Pacific sooner or later.

"A war we aren't prepared for," Harper lamented to herself, falling back onto her bed, and staring up at the ceiling. All of these events occurring seemed to make any potential diplomatic solution with the two empires less and less likely, not to mention all the new ships running around, many of which had allegiances unknown. They might be from the modern day, but nothing prevented them from going to Japan or Germany to help uplift their homelands.

"Or help them fight a war against us," She said.

That was another major concern the higher ups were discussing. If any of the various Japanese or German ships decided to stand with their respective homelands in a war against the United States, the technological advantage the American Armed Forces held would be nullified. Modern radars and anti-ship missiles would be very good at chewing up and spitting out Second World War era planes and ships. Especially aircraft carriers, of which America had no means to replace.

She was upset and she was angry. Upset that this had happened to her country and angry at those who blamed the uptimers for failing to stop this. There was no way to predict this strange phenomena, whatever it was. They would just have to weather the storm.

A knock on the door shook her from her thoughts.

"Hey, Harper, you in there?" Came the voice of 1st Lieutenant Cynthia Redding, roommate, and one of the few pilots attached to the base's very small air wing, consisting of three C-26 Metroliners that should have already been retired. But the needs of the Air Force kept them flying longer than they were supposed to. Granted, the retirement date was for last year, so it wasn't as bad as it could be. "I forgot my key before I left, can you let me in?"

With a sigh, Harper got up from her bed, walked through the common area, and opened the door. Standing in the hallway, she was met with a smiling redhead wearing PT clothes, and holding a gym bag in her left hand.

"Thanks Harper, you saved my ass!" She said, practically skipping through the doorway, before coming to a halt in front of her open room, and turned to Harper. "Have you been crying?" She asked, watching as Harper simply walked past her, and back into her room.

"You heard about New York, right?" Harper asked as she flopped back down onto her bed. Redding winced slightly as she remembered that Harper was from New York City, and was one of the first to hear about the attack by the two battleships.

"Yeah, came over the net while we were out on patrol tracking a Japanese submarine up near the Canadian West Coast. Some of the escorting Red Tails were especially pissed about it." Redding said. "I'm sorry, Harper, really. I know all this has been hard on you."

"Oh you do, huh?" Harper huffed as she finally got to untying her boots, and tossed them over to her wall closet. "Whatever."

"Hey, what's that supposed to mean?" Redding raised her hands up in a gesture of mock surrender. "I'm just trying to be nice, what's with the attitude?"

"Look, I just wanna be left alone right now, Redding. Can I be left alone?" Harper pleaded, taking her OCP top off, and flinging it over her chair.

"This is about the various downtimers, ain't it?" Redding said, her own Georgian accent coming out in full, prompting a look from Harper that wasn't quite a glare, but wasn't exactly friendly either. The look gave Redding all the answers she needed. "Figured as much. They've given us a fair bit of shit for working with the Red Tails."

"And I bet they get along real well with you on account of how you sound, don't they?" Harper spat. "While I'm regarded as nothing more than a dressed up nigger by most of these inbred hicks!"

Redding recoiled at the pain and vehemence in Harper's voice while her face shifted to that of a hateful glare.

"Hicks who seem to think we're to blame for the attacks in Oregon and New York, who think that we're soft, and that we've got too many women and niggers in our ranks to be of use! Motherfuckers who don't realize that without us, America doesn't even stand a chance against Germany, much less fucking Japan!"

"I'm not fucking arguing that, Harper! I'm on your side here, so I don't know why I'm getting bitched out here!" Redding snapped back. "You think you're the only one who's been dealing with this shit? Because you sure as fuck aren't!"

"You're not the one who's been called a 'worthless nigger' to her fucking face!" Harper snarled. "Whatever you've been dealing with, 'flygirl', isn't shit compared to what me and others who look like me have been taking over these last few fucking weeks. Now if you'll excuse me, I'd like to be left alone!" Harper finished, slamming her door in Redding's face. Locking the deadbolt, she quickly shed the rest of her uniform, turned off the lights, and fell into bed.

This night would be the first in a very long time where she cried herself to sleep.
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Next chapter features the 16 Regiment of Foot on the White Cliffs of Dover overlooking the Imperial German Navy storming the Dover Strait!
 
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New York - germans from 1942 could do that.USA was lucky,that Tirpitz not joined them,or their entire fleet there would sunk.

Modern 17 ships on Pacyfic - some japaneese would join their country,they were patriots after all.
And,USA ships from 2023 joined 1907 USA,althought they are progressive,so why progressive japaneese should noy join 1941 Japan,too?
Japaneese Navy was harsh,but,unlike Army,they were no genociders.

Even if that do not happen,some ship simply must fall into japaneese hands here.If not,technology from modern day islands.
People there would rather prefer 1941 Japan to 1907 USA - they were "yellow monkeys" there.

And,it still do not change fact,that Japan,Germany and USA simply could not invade each other,even if they want to - and,would be unable to do so for at least next 10 years.

Considering everytching - even if both Japan and Germany get modern technology,they could still not produce anytching better then,let say,1980 level.The same goes for 1907 USA.
 

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Then I hope there's enough unity due to the attacks to start making the infrastructure for 1950s US tech
Do not matter - both Japan and Germany need at least 10 years to prepare invasion.Do be honest,USA could afford another civil war now,and as long as they do not use do many nukes it would not help Japan or Germany in any way.

@Quickdraw101 - to made Japan and Germany live more interesting/conqering 1812 savages is boooring/ you could add 1935 Italy and 1943 Hungary ,for fighting over Europe,and 1970 South Vietnam for fighting Japan.
Or North Vietnam,do not really matter.
 
Chapter 8: Battle of the White Cliffs of Dover

Quickdraw101

Beware My Power-Green Lantern's Light
New York - germans from 1942 could do that.USA was lucky,that Tirpitz not joined them,or their entire fleet there would sunk.

Modern 17 ships on Pacyfic - some japaneese would join their country,they were patriots after all.
And,USA ships from 2023 joined 1907 USA,althought they are progressive,so why progressive japaneese should noy join 1941 Japan,too?
Japaneese Navy was harsh,but,unlike Army,they were no genociders.

Even if that do not happen,some ship simply must fall into japaneese hands here.If not,technology from modern day islands.
People there would rather prefer 1941 Japan to 1907 USA - they were "yellow monkeys" there.

And,it still do not change fact,that Japan,Germany and USA simply could not invade each other,even if they want to - and,would be unable to do so for at least next 10 years.

Considering everytching - even if both Japan and Germany get modern technology,they could still not produce anytching better then,let say,1980 level.The same goes for 1907 USA.
Bullshit. The Imperial Japanese Navy committed a whole slew of atrocities during the Second World War. As for the Tirpitz being there, it wouldn't be a slaughter, but it would be a much tougher fight.
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White Cliffs of Dover
United Kingdom
August, 1812
18 Days Post Event

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Private James Bennett of the 16th Regiment of Foot looked out at the Strait of Dover in absolute horror and disbelief at the sight that lay before him.

The Royal Navy had been defeated, totally and utterly. The most powerful navy in the history of man, was now reduced to nothing more than floating, burning debris. Everything from sloops, to frigates, to magnificent ships of the line, all destroyed. Wooden planks and bodies littered the waters of the Dover Strait, while the few warships that still floated on the water burned furiously.

Private Bennett, like the rest of the regiment currently sitting atop the Cliffs of Dover, saw the entire massacre unfold before their very eyes. The enemy, in enormous ships made of steel, with equally enormous cannon, utterly annihilated the Royal Navy fleet with only a handful of ships. Ships that, after that appeared in this world less than a month ago after that blinding flash in Central Europe, in the Rhine Confederation.

After that blinding flash, strange ships had visited British ports and sailed the Channel with utter impunity. They claimed to be from a nation called the "German Empire" and were asking what year it was. The entire situation was just absurd! How could you not know what year it was! There was no such thing as a German Empire! But at the same time metal ships the likes of which now insolently sailed through the Strait of Dover should not exist.

These Germans had claimed they were from the future and sought to dictate terms to the British government, as well as the French, who they claimed to have utterly defeated. The terms and demands the Germans had brought with them were utterly intolerable to the British people, and Prime Minister Spencer Perceval had demanded the Germanic barbarians to leave England.

So they did. In preparation for war, the Royal Navy and Army had been ordered to mobilize, and ordered into defensive postures across England. Thousands of soldiers took up positions all across Southern England, while the Royal Navy sortied from its ports, and prepared for battle against this new, terrifying enemy. And no matter how prepared they thought they were, nothing could prepare them for what came.

Bennett did not understand the Lord's will, and probably never would, but he could not grasp just why he had done this. He could not grasp what Britain had done to deserve to have such an enemy set upon them. What had they done to deserve this slaughter? Britain was a force of good in the world, bringing civilization to savages without it, all the while building the greatest empire known to mankind.

"You think they are going to invade us?" Private David Clark asked, a look of despair and dismay on his face.

"No other reason they would have such a fleet so close to our shores."

"Take a look at that one right there!" Corporal McCallum called out, lowering the field telescope he was holding to his right eye. "That's gotta be an invasion fleet! The deck is swarming with men armed with rifles! And they gotta be wearing the strangest uniforms!"

"Prepare yourselves, men!" Called out Colonel Charles Green from atop his horse. "The Navy may have failed, but we shall not give up! Bring forth the artillery!" He commanded. "Sergeants, prepare the guns, and let those Germanic barbarians have what for!"

As Privates Clark Bennett and Clark turned, they were met with at least a dozen six pounder field guns, as well as half a dozen nine pounder, being pushed by men, and pulled by horses up to the very edge of the Dover Cliffs. Behind them were about a dozen mortars, with men hurriedly loading in shells as fast as they could.

"I don't think those will do much to those ships," Bennett said, alarmed at how suicidal the Colonel seemed to be, even after witnessing the destruction of the Navy just minutes ago. "They withstood heavier naval cannon, what good will these do against them?"

"We shall not give up, soldiers!" Barked a nearby Captain who strode pompously up to them. "Now take up your positions with the rest of the men, and await further orders!" The two privates obeyed, for what else could they do?

As they lay prone on the grass of the cliffs, they watched as a number of small boats were being lowered into the water by the larger ships. Each boat had dozens of gray-clad soldiers with rifles, while other slightly larger boats sailed in between them, almost as if they were escorts. The sight was mesmerizing for the men of the 16th Foot. The larger ships, and even some of the smaller ones, moved without any sail. How was such a feat possible?

"Look at all the fookers!" one of the men said in astonishment. "Oi can't say oi ever saw dat many men before!"

"We'll give them a good beatin and make them regret ever comin to the England!" Sergeant Edwards said with the utmost confidence. "Steel yourselves men, get ready!"

No sooner had he said that, artillery boomed behind and alongside them, the six and nine pounder guns, and mortars lobbing explosives at the enemy jammed tight in the boats below. Then the volley fire began. Three ranks of men, prone, kneeling, and standing, all opened fire with their muskets at the boats below. Many of them knew the chances of them scoring a hit was low, but they had to make the effort. Splashes of water bracketed the small boats rowing to shore as some of the cannon balls got close to the craft.

The men on the boats were packed so tightly that they couldn't even shoulder their rifles to fire. They were fish in a barrel begging to be shot. That was, until the larger escort boats opened fire with their demonic sounding guns and cannon atop the cliffs. Guns that seemed to fire hundreds, if not thousands of rounds into the ranks of soldiers atop the cliffs.

Men fell in droves as rounds tore through the ranks, collapsing at least half of the standing ranks, and many in the other two. Dozens of men lay dead or dying on the cliffs as the escorting boats made the men of the 16th Regiment of Foot pull back from the cliffs edge.

"Oi, where the fook do you think your goin! Get back to the front and foight!" One of the captains screamed, waving his sword, and drawing his flintlock pistol. "We won't let a bunch of sorry-" His words were cut off as a round clipped the top of his head clean off, and his lifeless body collapsed to the ground.

"Standfast men, standfast!" Colonel Green demanded! "We must-"

The cliffs exploded in a shower of dirt and fire as loud booms thundered from the large naval vessels in the Dover Strait. Great clouds of dirt and smoke obscured their vision as men screamed for their mothers, and for their very lives. Bodies were flung into the air, being tossed away from, or even over the cliffs, and into the waters below. Men's bodies were torn apart by the sheer explosive force of the shell bursts, and within seconds, what remained of the 16th Regiment were fleeing.

At least half the regiment was dead or wounded, but the survivors could not, and would not stay to help them. The guns from the naval ships boomed once more, and again the cliffs were overtaken by smoke and flame, shaking the very earth like they had called down the wrath of God himself. Horses neighed in terror and even the men manning the mortars further back from the cliffs were in retreat. Officers tried to rally the men, but none of them were obeyed the regiment. They did not want to die uselessly.

"Jesus fookin Christ lads, what in da hell are those guns they have!" Private Clark said he ran with the rest of the men, his musket still tightly gripped in his hand as he sprinted away from the certain death that awaited him if he didn't.

"Fookin Germans shouldn't have big fooking guns like that!" Bennett huffed out in reply as he too sprinted as hard and as fast as he could away from the carnage. The men of the regiment ran for about half a mile until they came upon a road that was filled with frightened and terrified onlookers who had seen and heard the assault upon the cliffs of Dover.

"I say, just what is going on over there? I thought you boys were supposed to be defending us, not running like cowards!" Some richly dressed woman waving a fan in front of her face said.

"Fook you, we just got our arses kicked over on the Cliffs! Those damn Germans have weapons we never e'en seen before!" Bennett exclaimed angrily. "How aboot you go fooking fight them, ya damn cunt!"

The woman gasped aloud, eyes going wide, and looked as if she were about to faint. How dare they talk to her like that?

"Why, how dare you!" She said indignantly. "I will have you know that I am-"

They never learned who she was, as the eerie quiet was soon broken by what sounded like a wail off in the distance. A wailing that grew louder and louder in pitch and volume. Turning to the east, they could make out at least six shapes in the distant sky from the direction of the sound. The objects, whatever they were, were very high in the air, and seemed to be diving down almost like a falcon dives for its prey.

The objects grew larger and they could make out what seemed to be wings of a sort on the thing, almost like a bird. Only these wings didn't flap. Then they saw winks of light twinkling on the wings, and soon the ground all around them was churning up dirt and shrapnel as rounds fell on them by the hundreds, possibly by the thousands. Men's limbs were blown off, others were torn in half, and everyone still on their feet was scrambling for cover.

But that noise, that dreadful, hellish noise. It didn't stop. It got louder, and louder, until the strange machines that flew above them got to but a few hundred feet above them, and dropped what seemed to be large eggs atop the men of the 16th Regiment. Only they weren't eggs, they were giant bombs.

Each one dropped by the flying machines exploded in a shower of dirt and bloody limbs. The already beleaguered 16th Regiment once again found itself under assault by an enemy they couldn't stop. Hell, they couldn't even inconvenience them, even with the defensive advantage, even against slow rowing boats when they had an artillery advantage.

Half of the remaining men in the regiment were either dead or dying as the flying machines were joined by others, tearing through their ranks with those rapid fire muskets they carried. Some men fell to their knees, curled up in fetal positions, and cried. Others waited for the inevitable to happen. Few stood their ground and fired feebly at their attackers. The rest of them, like Bennett and Clark, ran for their lives.
 
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Atrocities - yes,but compared to japaneese army or american soviet allies,they were still boyscouts.
Tirpitz would probably die sinking almost all american battleships.
But,thank to your chapter i do not forget,that USA had monitors till WW1.


Conqest of England - it go as it should gone considering strenghth of both sides.
Kind of karmic justice - England used prussia as attack dog till 1870,and now that dog would eat them.
Free Ireland,i think,maybe Scotland,too.

Free Boers in South Africa,too.And africans which would be treated as serfs at best,or slaves at worst.Maybe germans genocide Herero again here.

Europa - people would be not genocided,becouse Kaiser do not genocided white people,only black ones.

Well,maybe they beat to death more polish children for praing in polish language,but - such things happened in France and England,too/not polish children,of course,but gaelic/


How they get Ju87? becouse planes from 1914 was good only for recon.

All in all - good chapter,but if you do not deliver some big modern states to counter Germany and Japan,both Asia and Europa would be quickly taken.
Becouse your USA could not prevent that from happening.

About modern japaneese ships - some could hoin 1941 Japan,becouse fucked country still ruling part of the world is better then defeated again country.

As americans once like to say - "Right or wrong,my country"
 

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Atrocities - yes,but compared to japaneese army or american soviet allies,they were still boyscouts.


As americans once like to say - "Right or wrong,my country"
Again, this is complete bullshit. Japanese sailors and marines took part in some of the worst atrocities of World War Two, especially the Rape of Manila, the executions of many thousands of civilians and allied servicemen, and blatant attacks on Red Cross ships at sea. The Imperial Japanese Navy was just as horrid as the Imperial Japanese Army.
 

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Again, this is complete bullshit. Japanese sailors and marines took part in some of the worst atrocities of World War Two, especially the Rape of Manila, the executions of many thousands of civilians and allied servicemen, and blatant attacks on Red Cross ships at sea. The Imperial Japanese Navy was just as horrid as the Imperial Japanese Army.
USA sunked Red Cross ships,too.And their air forces hunted survivirs of destroyed ships,like on Bismarck sea.Battle there lasted 3 days - but it was 4th day when american planes killed survivors in lifeboats.
Yes,japaneese Navy made war crimes - but not much worst then USA.Many american subs killed all survivors of their attacks.

Back to topic - if you do not send any modern country to Europe,Asia or South America,then all could happen here is Kaiser keeping Europe,part of Asia and Africa, Japan keeping part of Asia and Pacyfic,maybe part of Africa,too, and USA keeping both Americas,Australia and maybe part of Africa.

Becouse all sides here are simply unable to invade each other now,or during next 10 years - and later it would be too late.
 
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Chapter 9: Tokyo Blues

Quickdraw101

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Tokyo, Empire of Japan
September 17th, 1941
17 Days After The Event
11:00 Local Time

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"Japan now sits at a crossroads in its destiny." Prime Minister Fumimaro Konoe said. "There can be no denying the events of the last few weeks. There can be no denying the facts that are right in front of our eyes. The world we once knew is gone and somehow our nation has been sent back in time to the year of 1812."

No one in the room argued with the Prime Minister. Not after everything that had happened over the last few weeks. Especially not after the events of the previous day. They were no longer in the year 1941. Hundreds of prisoners gathered by the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy had painted a vivid and frightening picture.

"But we are not the only ones we know share this backward world with." Said General Hajime Sugiyama, Chief of the Army General Staff. "As you are all undoubtedly aware, we share this world with the United States and German Empire. The latter we confirmed due to the presence of a German controlled Tsingtao. A formerly German controlled Tsingtao." He said with pride, as if it was the Army that did all the work in capturing the port from the Germans.

"A Tsingtao that is now back in the hands of the Japanese Empire," Chief of the Navy General Staff Admiral Osami Nagano added, glaring slightly at General Sugiyama. It seemed he also forgot just how much effort the Navy had put into whittling down the defenses of the German garrison, and the casualties the Army had incurred despite it. "However, it will be months, if not a year or more until we can properly use the port in the capacity we wish. But there are more pressing matters than the Germans."

"Indeed," Konoe said. "While a great many opportunities are now afforded to our nation, all of the problems Japan faces are still present, and in many ways even worse. Our need for oil, steel, rubber, and so many other resources our empire desperately needs to achieve greatness, is no different than a month ago."

"Thus our plans for the former Dutch East Indies, British Malaya, Burma, Borneo, and indeed even the Philippines, must be accelerated." Ministry of War Hideki Tojo added. "Japan must not be denied the resources it needs to survive, and without the presence of the European empires to stand in our way, there is nothing and no one to stop us. Even the United States is in no position to oppose us."

"What do you mean by that, General Tojo? Last I recall, the radio broadcasts seem to indicate the United States is at war with Japan." Cabinet Planning Board President, Admiral Teiichi Suzuki asked.

"There is a possible answer to that question, President Suzuki." Answered Minister of Foreign Affairs, Admiral Teijirō Toyoda. "As you are all aware, the radio broadcasts from the United States have been rather contradictory in their reports. States like California and Washington say it's the year 1943, while Oregon and a handful of others keep saying it's the year 2024. However, there's very little else in the way of radio from anywhere else in the United States. What little we have picked up from outside those states is rather strange."

"What do you mean by that, Admiral Toyoda?" Finance Minister Masatsune Ogura said.

"The broadcasts are very weak, almost like those that were in use 30 years ago, if not older. But that's not all. One of the radio broadcasts we heard from New York claimed it was the year 1907. Many of the other broadcasts we've heard keep going on about how most of the United States is from 1907 and that Theodore Roosevelt is the president again."

"Theodore Roosevelt," Minister of War Tojo snarled. Hideki Tojo despised Theodore Roosevelt. He had sided with Russia during the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905. Japan had been betrayed by Roosevelt, who sided with and defended the Russians, who Japan had bested repeatedly in battle. Japan had been denied a complete victory over Russia, a complete victory that would have seen Japan annex much of the Russian Far East, and the Russian Empire paying indemnities to Japan.

Instead, Japan had to give up its gains in Northern Sakhalin, it would receive no war reparations from the Russian Empire, and the plans to annex Russian Siberia had been halted. The Treaty of Portsmouth had cheated Japan out of its righteous, complete, and deserved victory, by Theodore Roosevelt. It was frustrating, it was infuriating to Tojo, and to many millions of Japanese who saw this as a betrayal by the United States, and a blatant violation of Japan's sphere of influence.

Ever since that day, Tojo had a deep hatred of the Americans, and especially hated Theodore Roosevelt. He had wished that the assassin's bullet had struck home and killed the man in 1912. And if what they were hearing from the United States was true, and Theodore Roosevelt was once again President of the United States, he would once more try to cheat Japan. Roosevelt would try to take advantage of and deprive Japan of what it needed.

'He could try,' Tojo thought. Things would be different this time. Japan would make sure that the United States showed the Empire of Japan the proper respect, that they would pay for past transgressions against Japan. They would pay for their arrogance and impertinence. The United States would be forced to see things Japan's way, and accede to their wishes, and demands. And how Tojo enjoyed the thought of Theodore Roosevelt and the United States being humbled and embarrassed by Japan.

"What I find most concerning is what we are hearing from the American West Coast about being at war with Japan," Admiral Yamamoto said. The plans for war against the United States, which called for a surprise attack on the US Naval Base at Pearl Harbor, to destroy the American Pacific Fleet, and force the Americans to sue for peace. It was expected that if the United States and Japan could not reach a diplomatic settlement, war would commence no later than early 1942. Yet the states claiming to be at war with Japan were saying it was late 1943! "When I was asked about our chances of victory against the United States, I stated that we shall run wild for the first six months to a year. But by the second or third year, I have no utterly no confidence in victory."

Sour expressions showed on the faces of many of those in the room. Many of them, especially Hideki Tojo, didn't think much of the Americans. They saw them as soft, decadent, pleasure loving playboys, with no stomach for a serious war. Weak willed cowards who would crumble before the Empire of Japan.

Few of them knew the industrial capacity of the United States, an industry that, with the press of a button, would be mobilized for war. Shipyards that could pump out ships at a rate far faster than Japan could ever hope to match. One of the few in the room who knew this fact was General Tadamichi Kuribayashi of the Imperial Japanese Army. Like Yamamoto, he too had spent time in America, and had seen the massive factories in Detroit.

"But that was before we were sent to the past," Hideki Tojo argued. "That was before the United States was split into three separate parts, with the majority of it being a backwater nearly 40 years behind us! Now we don't have to worry about the United States standing in our way, and if Theodore Roosevelt thinks he can treat us the same way he did in 1905, he will have another thing coming!"

"You seem to be forgetting that the entire Pacific Coast of the United States isn't a backwater, they are fully mobilized for war," Foreign Minister Toyoda said. "You also seem to be forgetting that one of these states supposedly being from the 21st century! And that's not even factoring in the other states!"

"So what?" Tojo snapped. "We all know what the Americans had on the West Coast, and it is not enough to fight a war against Japan! Alaska is a frigid wasteland and these other states? Florida, Arkansas, West Virginia, backwater states even in the United States! The rest of the country is even more backward! They were barely making automobiles in 1907, much less tanks or planes! Even the ships they can make are laughably outdated compared to even our oldest ships! If they try to fight us, they will lose!" Tojo was insistent on this and some of the Imperial Army officers in the room agreed with him.

"Perhaps General Tojo is right," Admiral Yamamoto said, surprising many of those present. "But if the Americans cannot replace what they lose, they are unlikely to face us in battle, and we can take what we want in the Pacific, even the Philippines and the other islands the Americans own. But I don't believe they are so disorganized that they are incapable of resistance. If they are at a war footing, an attack on Hawaii or the West Coast would be suicidal."

"I believe you're all forgetting that our need for oil and steel has not disappeared!" Prime Minister Konoe reminded them all. "We may have a chance to avoid a war with the United States, especially when they realize the weakness of their position."

"I agree with the Prime Minister," Admiral Suzuki concurred. "They will know they can't win a war against us and will most assuredly accept our terms."

"And if the Americans don't see reason and choose to go to war with us?" Emperor Hirohito said softly. Those in the room now shifted their gaze to him and it was Tojo who spoke first.

"Then we will crush them, as we most assuredly would!" Tojo boldly proclaimed.

"Should the Americans attempt offensive action west of Hawaii, we would crush them." Yamamoto said calmly. "If President Roosevelt orders his fleet to retake the Philippines, they will fare no better than the Russians did in 1905. We would slaughter them."

"And if the Americans are left without a main battle fleet or carriers to defend themselves, perhaps we could even take the Hawaiian Islands, possibly even Alaska." General Sugiyama suggested. "After all, with our forces from China now scattered all over the Home Islands and Manchuria, we now have the manpower to spare, it would be up to the navy to simply get us there. The Army would handle the rest" Sugiyama said, a light jab at the navy officers in the room. Some of them glared at Sugiyama, but they held their tongues.

"Seeing as how the Dutch East Indies, Malaya, and the Philippines do not have the defenses or infrastructure they did in our time, the large invasion forces we have and are preparing will be completely unnecessary." Admiral Nagano added. "It is conceivable that the transports that were earmarked for the Southern Operation could be instead shifted towards Hawaii and Alaska, should we meet, and decisively defeat the Americans in battle."

"That also assumes we can draw the Americans out to meet us," Yamamoto replied, mulling over the radio reports that he had not only read, but personally listened to. "As stated, the states claiming to be from 1943 say they have been at war with us for two years. If the Americans were willing to keep fighting for two years against us, they are likely to fight us for just as long now."

"That was when they had their whole country as one! That's when they weren't split into many pieces!" Tojo argued. "We are united, we aren't split as the Americans are, and the Americans do not possess the industrial advantage they held in 1941! If they fight us, we will win!" Tojo was persistent. He hated the United States and was one of those pushing for war with the West.

He also knew the Army had wanted blood. With all their progress in China being undone, morale was at an all time low. The Army wanted blood, and were so eager to reclaim lost glory, that they were seriously proposing an invasion of Hawaii and Alaska. Granted, with the Europeans being a non factor, even a token force could take the lands south of Japan, leaving a great deal of shipping available to them.

But would it be enough to get an invasion force of sufficient size to Hawaii? In 1941, the Americans had two infantry divisions on the islands. How much would they have after two years of war with Japan?

Yamamoto met Tojo's stern glare with one of his own.

"You seem to think that the Americans will be as helpless as the Chinese. The same Chinese who had bogged down so much of your army since 1937." Tojo's glare turned into a nasty scowl, which was joined by many Imperial Army officers present. But Yamamoto was undeterred. "You again seem to forget the Americans from nearly a century in the future. Nearly a century of difference which is equivalent to your soldiers facing those of General Grant's Union Army during the American Civil War! That's what those Americans would be to your soldiers!"

"Which will mean nothing if the Navy does its job of destroying the American Fleet!" Tojo snarled. "The Army can handle whatever troops the Americans might throw at us, you just need to take care of the American Fleet!"

"An American Fleet that is on a war footing and expecting an attack," Prime Minister Konoe interrupted. "An American Fleet that now has access to a 21st century American Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay, or that the American city of Portland was hosting an international fleet review, and is hosting a dozen 21st century naval vessels, including one that is Japanese!"

That got everyone's attention. The knowledge that there was a 21st century Japanese warship in the United States made everyone sit up and take notice. Before this meeting, barely a handful of people knew about it. Now all of the highest ranking officials and military officers in the room knew.

"Another reason why I don't share the Army's views on how easy any conflict with the Americans would be," Admiral Yamamoto said. "From what we can discern, there are at least half a dozen American warships in and around Portland, with another half dozen foreign warships. On top of the Japanese ship in Portland, one has been identified as Korean, and another as Filipino."

Many of the men in the room had expressions of disgust on their faces at the mention of a Korean warship. Koreans were barely even humans, not worthy of respect, and only good for performing manual labor, and the women to service the soldiers and sailors of Japan. The idea of a Korean warship from the 21st century being present in the United States disturbed them. The idea of a Filipino warship also disturbed them, but to a lesser degree.

"As if Koreans could be a real threat to us." General Sugiyama scoffed, before the realization set in. "But a Korean warship implies the existence of an independent Korea." He said, and many others understood as well.

"An independent Korea implies that the Empire of Japan no longer exists," Prime Minister Konoe said grimly. "Among the reports we have picked up from the 21st century states, is talk about how they will beat us like they did in 1945. There was also talk about something called an 'atomic bomb' in West Virginia, and using them against us."

Again, what was said had disturbed a number of those in the room. To hear that in only four years from the time they came, the United States would stand victorious over the Empire of Japan, angered and disgusted them. To know that Korea was an independent nation disgusted them. To hear the Americans bragging about all of that over the radio angered them beyond belief. But there was also some confusion amongst them.

Just what was an atomic bomb? Tojo and the Emperor both had asked what those were supposed to be, but no one in the room had an answer. However, one of the men in the room, Lieutenant General Takeo Yasuda, had scowled slightly when he heard the words, and had shifted his gaze slightly downward.

Yamamoto wondered just what the man was thinking. Did the general know something the rest of the men here didn't, but couldn't say?

"All of this information is why I believe we should re-engage in diplomatic talks with the United States," Said Kichisaburō Nomura, the ambassador to the United States who had somehow ended up back in Tokyo after The Event. "The Emperor gave me this task and I do not take it lightly." He looked over to the Emperor, waiting for a reply. Everyone in the room did. For a few moments he said nothing. Then he said,

"We have been gifted a great opportunity for peace by being put into this world. Many of the obstacles we once faced are gone, and I am sure we can persevere through the ones that remain." He said. "As you all know, I abhor war. It is why I have given this task to ambassador Nomura. I have no doubt of his ability to-"

He stopped as a muffled sound from outside caught his, and everyone else's attention. The wailing tone they heard almost sounded like an air raid siren. But that was impossible! There were no air raid drills scheduled for today and it was impossible that there could be any planes in the air that weren't Japanese!

Then the ground lightly shook and the chandelier above them began to rock back and forth slightly. It was at that moment Army and Navy guards burst into the room and they all learned something was terribly wrong.
 

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