We see how well it fares against that in FO2, with the Gauss rifle doing basically the damage an ingame .50 should do (corroborated with NV having .50 and gauss doing similar damage).
The answer? Not well at all, goes through it like butter.
U.S Marines get issued T-60 Power Armor in 2001
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The answer? Not well at all, goes through it like butter.
Also Fallout Tactics, which btw is the only Fallout game that lets people in power armor wield fully automatic .50's, and those can shred other power armor, or anything else really.
Even 7.62 can hurt the different model of PA in FT, at least in quantity or weak spot critical fishing with a sniper rifle.
Yeah, tactics has power armor too but of a different variety which we cannot apply to T-51b feats. Also the questionable nature of FO:T in general. But it does make the point clear that a good burst of .50 puts power armor people down with rather ease. Especially if it's DU ammo.
Lugging around giant anti-material rifles or heavy machine guns to take out individual marines is going to make it an even worse day for the Iraqis since the US Military in addition to the nigh-small arms immune power armor has everything else in its arsenal as well still.
Yeah, it doesn't make infantry indestructible, just... very cumbersome to fight.
On one hand it renders the lighter and more spammable weapons completely ineffective, and on the other hand it makes both infantry based and support frag/HE based weapons mostly ineffective aswell. Consider just the tactical impact of infantry being fully protected from frag grenades and light mortars. Only crew served and vehicle based automatics .50cal and above remain as effective as ever, plus heavy sniper weapons and trying to trick shot infantry with light anti tank weapons like RPGs, which has a lot of limitations of its own.
Plus T-60 Power Armored Marines can carry crew served weapons on their lonesome. Machine Guns and Grenade Launchers. Multiple weapons or even launchers. Plus the super strength and other assets when it comes to door knocking and hard insertions into homes and potential hideouts during counterinsurgency warfare.
The US Military could probably tailor make some heavier weapons purpose built for T-60 Power Armor Marines to tote around akin to the Big Guns/Weapons you see in Fallout.
The US Military could probably tailor make some heavier weapons purpose built for T-60 Power Armor Marines to tote around akin to the Big Guns/Weapons you see in Fallout.
Hmm are you sure?
The Observatory battle showed the NCR had to literally stick their guns into the neck gaps of the armor at point blank to kill Knights, not a single one was killed at a distance with NCR ballistic fire arms.
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They even had a M240 Machine gun and it didn't kill any Knights, at least one NCR Trooper was using a M14
While it's meant to be set in the same universe and as accurate as they feel is practical, the TV show isn't going to draw *that* hard on a couple of sentences from past official lore, especially when they can validly say the 2500-joule figure was talking about the older T-51 and these are Brotherhood of Steel T-60s.
Which is exactly what I said -- they could be carrying cut-down .50-cal MGs and/or a version of the OICW.
As far as "nearly off the shelf", I'd argue for arming real T-60s with the XM 307 OCSW 25mm and/or a scaled up OICW.
Sure. We're not actually disagreeing, I'm just being a little more specific because of the time period. The OICW was still under active development at this point and the T-60 neatly solves the "it's still too heavy and bulky" issue. The parallalel OCSW is actually convertible between the XM307 25mm configuration and the XM312 .50-cal configuration, which makes it even nicer for the suits.
For that matter, the entire Land Warrior program started in 1994, and doing *that* as an upgrade package for T-60s would work perfectly.
The TV show has .45 acp being useful from the weak points which makes sense
.45ACP shouldn't even penetrate some of the most basic-bitch aramid soft armors, I doubt any area of T-51b+ power armor is vulnerable to it.
A M1A1 Thompson is used in the neck armor of the T 60 in the TV series
Yes, but my point is that .45 really shouldn't work against power armor, even the weakspots. The penetration capability of handguns is...Subpar, and .45 especially sucks dick because it's a big slow fat round.
Might as well hunt power armor with .577 Snider or something.
MAYBEEEEEEEEEEEEE .45 loaded to 'fuck your receiver' powder loads with a hardened steel/uranium projectile could work?
Just pointing out what has happend in canon
<;D Yeah, and if somebody drove up with a new model BMW with optional heated seating in LoTR, that'd be canon too eh?
Technically yes.