King Arts
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You serve the government and win against the traitors.
(That this can be taken both ways shows how much of a sham our military is when they don’t protect our rights)
Military US Military Is Scared Americans Won't Fight For Globalism
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(That this can be taken both ways shows how much of a sham our military is when they don’t protect our rights)
King Arts
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@Zachowon
I personally don't think the election was stolen so I don't look down on our soldiers.
BUT if there was a stolen election and the soldiers did not do anything then that means there are three options either the soldiers don't believe it(in which case you can think they are dumb if you think the evidence was obvious, but they haven't broken their oaths),
The 2nd option is that they support the stolen election which would be treason and them betraying their oath.
The 3rd option is that they know about the stolen election but do nothing because of cowardice they don't want to risk prison or death to fight against people who literally usurped political power in our nation and violated the voting rights of all Americans. I try not to judge people for not being brave. So while I won't judge people for being cowards others definitely will, also it would mean you definitely don't deserve praise and hero worship because you would not be fighting for our freedoms or protecting us, you'd just be doing what is safe and easy for you, wanting to focus on easy foreign enemies instead of the deadly ones inside the borders.
I personally don't think the election was stolen so I don't look down on our soldiers.
BUT if there was a stolen election and the soldiers did not do anything then that means there are three options either the soldiers don't believe it(in which case you can think they are dumb if you think the evidence was obvious, but they haven't broken their oaths),
The 2nd option is that they support the stolen election which would be treason and them betraying their oath.
The 3rd option is that they know about the stolen election but do nothing because of cowardice they don't want to risk prison or death to fight against people who literally usurped political power in our nation and violated the voting rights of all Americans. I try not to judge people for not being brave. So while I won't judge people for being cowards others definitely will, also it would mean you definitely don't deserve praise and hero worship because you would not be fighting for our freedoms or protecting us, you'd just be doing what is safe and easy for you, wanting to focus on easy foreign enemies instead of the deadly ones inside the borders.
Poe
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Regardless the implication is that we live in a military dictatorship. I would much rather they stay neutral or, better yet, be shrunk down in times of peace so we they don't really get a say outside of who they vote for. Foaming at the mouth about the military installing your favorite presidential candidate by force is antithetical to the liberty the nation was founded on. At that point I'd rather just be a monarchy.
And how will we do that?
So again, what should we so.
Raid our armory, have our commanders tell us that our government are traitors and we storm the capital?
It would obviously show we are also not politically neutral...
You want the mikitary to be used as a political tool, without martial law or Insurection act being activated
I don't agree with the shrinking part, but the rest I agree.
King Arts
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Hey after the military inserts the conservative Trump in power he can be Emperor and then you'll have your precious monarchy. lol
For me personally no, again I don't think there was a stolen election(there was a bit more fraud than usual but not to a greater ammount than normal)
I'm saying if YOU believe that there was a stolen election then yes your political neutrality should go out the window because at that point it is the legitimate government vs usurpers. I mean are you also politically neutral in the conflict between Islamists vs other groups? Then why be neutral towards communists?
Like when you take the vow to "defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic" Foreign is obvious China, Russia, etc.
What does domestic mean?
The rest of the world keeps preferring American hegemony to CCP or Russians, and keep asking American to act like an empire in all but name, while many at home still want to pretend we are Rome or some such.
What if it is time for the American Experiment to end, and the true American Empire to rise?
The French have had more than one republic and more than one monarch, and yet they are still French and the nation of France survived all the transitions more or less intact to now. They even still have an empire of their own, and CVN building ability as well, while dealing with multiple governmental transitions of multiple sorts.
An American Napoleon is not the worst outcome in the world, and unlike most comparisons, the US and France are very much linked culturally and socially, unlike the US and Rome.
Becoming a proper empire would probably also help recruiting as well, at least for the sorts the military actually wants.
Insurrection, invasion onto our soil.Hey after the military inserts the conservative Trump in power he can be Emperor and then you'll have your precious monarchy. lol
For me personally no, again I don't think there was a stolen election(there was a bit more fraud than usual but not to a greater ammount than normal)
I'm saying if YOU believe that there was a stolen election then yes your political neutrality should go out the window because at that point it is the legitimate government vs usurpers. I mean are you also politically neutral in the conflict between Islamists vs other groups? Then why be neutral towards communists?
Like when you take the vow to "defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic" Foreign is obvious China, Russia, etc.
What does domestic mean?
But we can't just declare something an insurrection.
Now, if the president told the insurrection to disband, and they dint then he can use the military.
same with Martial Law.
the domestic is for this purpose.
he'll, civil war would be domestic.
blame reconstruction for Posse Comitatus
That goes against the founding principles of the nation.
And goes against the foundation of the US military...
ParadiseLost
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So, you're just a fascist, and a delusional one at that.
Much of the world is selling out to CCP dollars.
The main reason why China can't take over is that they are afraid of losing control of their economy, so they can't open things up to the extent the US, which makes them taking reserve currency status very difficult.
But look into the moves China is making in Central and South America, Africa, etc. China is investing massive amounts of money and effort into being the new Hegemon, and its doing so in the parts of the world that are likely to see the most economic growth in the next century.
I'm not even sure why you mentioned Russia because they are a paper tiger. Russia is going through an existential struggle and needs to use its military to make a border country bow to its will.
Honestly I suspect given the geopolitical goings on that Russia itself is part of China's hegemony. The war in Ukraine isn't a cold war between the US and Russia, its a cold war between the US and China, because Ukraine itself is just a testing ground to see if China can weaken the US enough to force the Taiwan issue.
America isn't ready to become a proper empire yet the current leadership is too shit for a successful go.
Many things in the modern day go against both of those, but are still given power and control in DC and the Fed gov via the lobbyist associations, sub-depts (CDC, ATF, etc) and parts of Wall Street that want them.
As I said, after what happened in 2020, with both the elections and the lies about the Wu Flu/it's vax's, we are already a banana republic.
If the powers in DC are already wiping our nations collective ass's with the text and spirit of the Constitution, why not use the new paradigm to get America to the point maybe we will be strong enough to establish a 2nd Republic ala France.
And people want an American Empire anyway, let's give it to the world and see how they like it.
Let's not be a Banana Republic, let's be a Banana Empire.
Not a fascist, but a student of history (geological and historical) and someone really tired of people wanting the US to be everything to everyone all at once.
The amount of people who want the US to be an Empire and have our Caesar or such, the way the military whines about low recruitment while also playing pretend about the influence of the political directors/employees and 'military neutrality' in politics...
If the world wants an American Empire to counter Russia and the CCP, and our own domestic situation is such that becoming an empire might fix some of the lingering issues at home long enough to attempt a 2nd Republic down the line...it doesn't seem worse than the 1984-esque outcome that the current path is going down.
That unfortunately I cannot argue with; we don't have anyone qualified to be our Napoleon, and our nation is unlikely to produce one till times are truly fucked, and by then it may well be too late for it to matter.
Because I think it's equally likely we end up with a Fallout-esque future, instead of 1984.
We don't have the competence to be the empire we need to be to get to the point of a 2nd Republic, but we might have the civilizational ability to annex Canada (we may need to save Canada from Trudeau at some point anyway) and survive a nuclear war with the CCP.
TheRomanSlayer
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Well, hopefully when America becomes a proper empire, I'd be sleeping six feet under, along with the other brownies that don't want to choose between one barbarian warlord and a savage warlord. America can have its empire, but they should stick with just Canada.
Agent23
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And now 75% of that is physically and mentally unfit?
That's the question really: what is a "proper" empire?
Are we to imagine the USA using the threat of military force to extort tribute payments from vassal countries?
Or invading other countries, looting all their national treasures, taking over the government of those places and taxing them?
So far they've mostly been half-heartedly going after control of natural resources around the world.
wars have been won with worse.
Agent23
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Yeah, you just need to form a tumblereena/landwhale brigade and either use them as meat sheepds or roll them down a slope onto the enemy ranks.
Or make them destroy the enemy with crippling psychological warfare by liking the enemy soldiers on tinder.
Yeah, I'd those are not warcrimes I do not know what is.
People who are out of shape can be worked into shape, and you would be surprised just how functional some crazy people can be on the battlefield.
"When the going gets crazy, the crazy turn pro."
When the world is going crazy, 'irrationality' drives so many events, and gaslighting is the media standard, being 'sane' is no longer a benefit.
And if we can take the madness that is consuming our society and turn it into focused drive to become a real empire, the CCP and Russia and our other enemies will beg for the American Republic to return.
Here's the thing: in a country that's on a serious war footing, there's generally serious "We are all in this together!" feeling.
People who were being pushed to the side are suddenly being told "Join up, your country needs you!"
Being on the frontline as part of an army unit who have to all work together to survive? That team spirit? It's something some ex-army people here in South Africa tell me that they really miss.
People who were being pushed to the side are suddenly being told "Join up, your country needs you!"
Being on the frontline as part of an army unit who have to all work together to survive? That team spirit? It's something some ex-army people here in South Africa tell me that they really miss.
DarthOne
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Still stuck in the Cold War as always I see.
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The Pentagon just failed its sixth audit in as many years
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The Pentagon just failed its sixth audit in as many years
Not quite 73% of the federal government’s annual budget goes to mandatory programs such as Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. That leaves a little over 27% of the annual budget for everything else, and of that “everything else,&rdqu...
Not quite 73% of the federal government's annual budget goes to mandatory programs such as Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. That leaves a little over 27% of the annual budget for everything else, and of that "everything else," almost 47% of the money ($752 billion) goes to the military. However, as the Pentagon's sixth failed audit reveals, it cannot account for half of its assets—or, should I say, your assets because the government is (or should be) every taxpayer's fiduciary.
Ideally, our military is a focused fighting machine. On the ground are well-trained troops with all the weapons they need and an infrastructure that supports them no matter what enemy they face. Meanwhile, at command headquarters—the Pentagon—you find people well-schooled in the art of war who dedicate themselves to keeping our troops in peak fighting condition and zealously guard the military's resources for the awful (and probably inevitable) day when America comes under direct attack.
In fact, while almost all of America's troops are dedicated men and women who want to be well-trained and benefit from the weapons and infrastructure they need to support them should they face an enemy on the battlefield, the Pentagon has turned into a corrupt, wasteful bureaucracy that would make the late-stage Roman and Byzantine empires proud.
Nothing more perfectly demonstrates what our military has become than its obsessive focus on race and every variation to heterosexuality. Who can forget former chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley, explaining that one of his key roles was understanding Critical Race Theory? The fact that the military was the best-integrated institution in America, with its members bleeding red, white, and blue regardless of skin color, was irrelevant to him. Milley's replacement, Charles Q. Brown, is no better, vociferously supporting the military's highly woke DEI programs.
We've also witnessed the military's almost overwhelming obsession with the whole LGBTQ+ panoply. Once Obama tossed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and opened the door to so-called transgender troops (an initiative only stalled briefly during the Trump years), things went from bad to worse. Aside from my contention that these people suffer from mental disorders that are either pathetic or grotesquely fetishistic, they're also expensive. As of June 2021, the year with the most recent information I could find, the military was spending millions on their small numbers:
The Pentagon has spent $15 million in the past five years to treat 1,892 transgender troops, including $11.5 million for psychotherapy and $3.1 million for surgeries, according to Defense Department data provided to Military.com
Of the 243 gender reassignment surgeries performed on military personnel since 2016, 50 took place between Jan. 1, 2016 and Dec. 31, 2017, and 193 occurred from Jan. 1, 2018 to Dec. 31, 2019 -- the two years after President Donald Trump announced via Twitter that he would bar transgender individuals from serving in the U.S. military.
According to the Defense Health Agency, the surgeries were performed in military health facilities and included removal of breasts or testicles, hysterectomies and labiaplasty -- creation of or reshaping the flesh around a vagina.
A country that views its military as its frontline against enemies would politely boot these damaged people rather than spend tens of millions on them.
When the Pentagon is obsessed with people's skin colors and the contents of their underpants, it's not doing its job. That's why it's appalling to know that, in addition to its misplaced focus, the Pentagon can't even manage the money and materiels in its care:
The Pentagon has failed its annual audit for the sixth year in a row, according to the Defense Department's chief financial officer.
Out of 29 individual sub-audits of the department, only seven passed this year, the same as the year prior, Comptroller Mike McCord told reporters Wednesday.
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This time around, 1,600 auditors combed through DOD's $3.8 trillion in assets and $4 trillion in liabilities, conducting some 700 site visits. They found that half of DOD's assets can't be accounted for. (Emphasis mine.)
That audit probably doesn't include the assets left behind in Afghanistan.
Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, who has presided for three years over the farcical obsessions of a woke military, stated that he "feels we need to be doing better at this and moving faster," but that getting an actual audit is years away. Well, I understand that the military is a big, complex institution, but I bet that if it directed more energy to managing its core functions instead of race and sex, that time could be shortened to months. In any event, it's obvious that no heads will roll.
Vivek Ramaswamy says that, if he is elected, he will fire half the federal workforce, a plan I think is great, although I'd massage it a little. For example, I'd fire everyone in the Department of Education. When it comes to the military, I'd leave the number of troops untouched (we're already low) but fire at least half of our Pentagon officials. As Elon Musk discovered at X, in bloated institutions, most employees are deadweight.
