Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Ah, the venerable Mig-21. As I understand for its time, this was a truly fearsome warplane.What about a certain flying tub?
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Agent23
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A slight improvement over the 19, but the MiG-21 still looks meh.What about a certain flying tub?
This time it makes me think more of an ant eater than a pig, though. What makes it a flying tub?
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Just a funny aircraft related picture guys, no need for yet another multi-page dick measuring contest.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
OK, it is more of a flying tube... but cut off top portion and you can definitely get a good tub!A slight improvement over the 19, but the MiG-21 still looks meh.
This time it makes me think more of an ant eater than a pig, though. What makes it a flying tub?
EDIT:
Yep! In 1990s, USN and CroAF held exercises... MiG-21 vs F-18. I think I mentioned them before, but US Navy pilots were rather uncomfortably surprised by MiG-21s low visual signature and small size. IIRC, Croatian pilots "sank" aircraft carrier in that exercise as well.
Agent23
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There was a similar exercise around here, lol, where the NATO force had to defend Sofia from attack.
The MiG-21s managed to successfully "bomb" it by flying very low over some highways which somehow managed to confuse the enemy radars.
Don't ask me more, kinds hearsay.
Fighter Plane Quarter Mile Drag Racing?
Something you didn't know you needed to watch until now.
Match One: MiG-29A versus F-15C
Match Two: MiG-15 versus F-86 Sabre
Match Three: A-10C versus Su-25
Match Four: MiG-21 versus F-5E
Match Five: F-14B versus Su-33
Match Six: Spitfire versus P-51 Mustang
Match Seven: FA-18 versus F-16
Match Eight: Mirage F1 versus Mirage 2000
Match Nine: FW-190A versus Bf-109K4
Match Ten: MB 339 versus C-101
Match Eleven: Saab 37 versus JF-17
Match Twelve: Harrier II versus MiG-19
Match Thirteen: F-15E versus Su-27
There's a Round Two as well with some of the winners.
Something you didn't know you needed to watch until now.
Match One: MiG-29A versus F-15C
Match Two: MiG-15 versus F-86 Sabre
Match Three: A-10C versus Su-25
Match Four: MiG-21 versus F-5E
Match Five: F-14B versus Su-33
Match Six: Spitfire versus P-51 Mustang
Match Seven: FA-18 versus F-16
Match Eight: Mirage F1 versus Mirage 2000
Match Nine: FW-190A versus Bf-109K4
Match Ten: MB 339 versus C-101
Match Eleven: Saab 37 versus JF-17
Match Twelve: Harrier II versus MiG-19
Match Thirteen: F-15E versus Su-27
There's a Round Two as well with some of the winners.
AN-2 Colts...prime mover for North Korean Special Forces...b/c they fly low, slow, and are made of wood...for less radar signature...don't mind the big radial engine on the front...
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
An-2 is not made of wood, it has stressed metal skin. The avoiding radar is done by flying low and slow, in Korea this is possible due to mountainous terrain.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
Interestingly, during the Siege of Vukovar, Serbian radars initially failed to notice the An-2s... because they were flying so slow that they were below the radar gate (if that is the correct term?). The problem was eventually fixed though.
The frame is largely wood.
bintananth
behind a desk
That big radial engine is a supercharged nine-cylinder radial rated for about 1,000 hp.
AN-2 pilots don't care about things like the drag coefficient or stall speed because that engine brute-forces through it.
It can fly at as low a speed as 50kph and maintain altitude. They lose altitude but can maintain control below that. I think they can even fly backwards with a strong enough headwind.
bintananth
behind a desk
The Nakajima Sakae-12 engines used by the Japaneses A6M2 Zeros in 1942 were only rated for about 940hp.
Those were high-performance and highly maneuverable (although lightly-built and fragile) long-range carrier aircraft with no shortage of firepower which gave the US Navy fits for a quite awhile.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
That's a meme coming from people mistaking it for Po-2 which actually was wood and canvas, but An-2 is full metal construction.
No, no it's not. As one of the people who monitored North Korean Tech in preparation for invasion...wood was defintely a factor in their construction.
I can piggyback off of this as well
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Then they must have built their own version, because Russian and Polish ones certainly don't use wood.
That has absolutely no correlation with the An-2, which is a massively bigger aircraft with a high-drag frame. Your argument is like claiming a semitrailer should be super high performance because it has more horsepower than a Porsche.
Reportedly the do replace many of the metal components with canvas and wood so it will allegedly be more stealthy.