What effects would permanently surviving Crusader states in the Middle East have on the European exploration and colonization of the Americas?

[WolfBear]

What effects would permanently surviving Crusader states in the Middle East have on the European exploration and colonization of the Americas? Would there be any effect at all in regards to this? Or would it be too speculative to provide any answers with any odds greater than random chance?

And which other effects would permanently surviving Crusader states have on Europe and the rest of the Christian world? Indeed, what exactly can we answer with relative certainty or at least with relatively high likelihood in regards to this?

 

[Ricardolindo]

What effects would permanently surviving Crusader states in the Middle East have on the European exploration and colonization of the Americas? Would there be any effect at all in regards to this? Or would it be too speculative to provide any answers with any odds greater than random chance?

And which other effects would permanently surviving Crusader states have on Europe and the rest of the Christian world? Indeed, what exactly can we answer with relative certainty or at least with relatively high likelihood in regards to this?

I don't think surviving Crusader states are plausible. The County of Edessa is alien space bats.

 

[WolfBear]

I don't think surviving Crusader states are plausible. The County of Edessa is alien space bats.

What about if the Byzantine Empire will avoid its 1204 sack and aggressively support the Crusader states?

 

[Ricardolindo]

What about if the Byzantine Empire will avoid its 1204 sack and aggressively support the Crusader states?

I don't think the Byzantines would want to aggressively support the Crusader states. The Byzantines, themselves, fought the Crusader states and even allied with Saladdin against them.
The County of Edessa had already fallen in 1144. It was completely unsustainable, as it was landlocked, most of its territory, including its capital, was east of the Euphrates River and it had poor relations with the County of Antioch. It was a doomed case of blind arrogance and detrimental overextension

 

[WolfBear]

I don't think the Byzantines would want to aggressively support the Crusader states. The Byzantines, themselves, fought the Crusader states and even allied with Saladdin against them.
The County of Edessa had already fallen in 1144. It was completely unsustainable, as it was landlocked, most of its territory, including its capital, was east of the Euphrates River and it had poor relations with the County of Antioch. It was a doomed case of blind arrogance and detrimental overextension

Edessa fell because the Crusaders foolishly attacked Damascus, no? In any case, Edessa isn't crucial for the Crusader states.