raharris1973
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I am invoking the interference of Alien Space Bats, exercising mind-control over American politicians in Congress, because I do not see a simple, plausible way to prevent the tide of American opinion from turning at the end of WWI to favor a very restrictive immigration policy, especially towards the "new immigration" from Southern and Eastern Europe. Any change I could think of would mess too much with all other aspects of early 20th century history, and I'm interesting in looking at this as a prime cause, rather than debating how to make it happen, so, I say it happens by ASB mind-control magic.
This means no emergency quota act of 1921, and no national origins quota act of 1924. The US remains as open after WWI and through the 1920s and beyond to European immigrants as it was in the decades before WWI.
With this one change, what are the demographic, economic, cultural, and political effects on the United States and Europe.
What numbers should we expecting over the course of generally prosperous years in the 1920s to migrate from different parts of Europe to America? In the immediate pre-1914 years, the numbers were above 1 million per year.
Would it stay at or above that rate through all non-recession/non-depression years?
How will the U.S. economy be affected? Will the switch from majority rural to majority urban, which happened during the decade, be even faster? Will It affect Congressional reapportionment after the 1930 census?
How much will the departure of young Europeans looking for better work prospects in America in larger numbers be a drain to southern and Eastern European communities, cities and industry, versus a release valve for potential troublemakers and source for remittances?
By 1928 in OTL, only one state was majority Catholic (Rhode Island) although many northeastern ones had very high Catholic populations, will any more tip over by 1928 in this TL?
By that year how many new arrivals, unrestricted by the quota, especially non-Protestants like Catholics, Jews, Eastern Orthodox and the occasional Balkan Muslim, would have become naturalized?
Do the effects in either North America, or Europe, of assumed continued mass migration work at cross purposes with the trends that in OTL led to the Great Depression, delaying it? Or could they somehow accelerate the coming of a Great Depression.
I tend to assume a Great Depression would slow down trans-Atlantic migration because of the drying up of job prospects and a reversal of the 'streets of gold' narrative rumor mill. Would you agree?
Supposing the Great Depression comes on time, and that limits immigration, followed by the rise of political extremism and conflict similar to OTL. If we get to WWII, what countries' military manpower and workforces will be reduced because of the migration? Could we put a figure on how many 100s of thousands, or millions, or European civilians or potential draftees, especially in eastern or Southern Europe, who would have "gotten out of dodge" before WWII?
This means no emergency quota act of 1921, and no national origins quota act of 1924. The US remains as open after WWI and through the 1920s and beyond to European immigrants as it was in the decades before WWI.
With this one change, what are the demographic, economic, cultural, and political effects on the United States and Europe.
What numbers should we expecting over the course of generally prosperous years in the 1920s to migrate from different parts of Europe to America? In the immediate pre-1914 years, the numbers were above 1 million per year.
Would it stay at or above that rate through all non-recession/non-depression years?
How will the U.S. economy be affected? Will the switch from majority rural to majority urban, which happened during the decade, be even faster? Will It affect Congressional reapportionment after the 1930 census?
How much will the departure of young Europeans looking for better work prospects in America in larger numbers be a drain to southern and Eastern European communities, cities and industry, versus a release valve for potential troublemakers and source for remittances?
By 1928 in OTL, only one state was majority Catholic (Rhode Island) although many northeastern ones had very high Catholic populations, will any more tip over by 1928 in this TL?
By that year how many new arrivals, unrestricted by the quota, especially non-Protestants like Catholics, Jews, Eastern Orthodox and the occasional Balkan Muslim, would have become naturalized?
Do the effects in either North America, or Europe, of assumed continued mass migration work at cross purposes with the trends that in OTL led to the Great Depression, delaying it? Or could they somehow accelerate the coming of a Great Depression.
I tend to assume a Great Depression would slow down trans-Atlantic migration because of the drying up of job prospects and a reversal of the 'streets of gold' narrative rumor mill. Would you agree?
Supposing the Great Depression comes on time, and that limits immigration, followed by the rise of political extremism and conflict similar to OTL. If we get to WWII, what countries' military manpower and workforces will be reduced because of the migration? Could we put a figure on how many 100s of thousands, or millions, or European civilians or potential draftees, especially in eastern or Southern Europe, who would have "gotten out of dodge" before WWII?