Alternate History Ideas and Discussion

AndrewJTalon

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2007: The start of the modern anti-vaccination movement begins here, when celebrity Jenny McCarthy claims her son became autistic because of his vaccinations. Let us imagine a slightly different timeline up to this point. You see, zombism and vampirism, among other mythical humanoid monsters, were actually caused by disease. The vaccinations for these were invented in the 1800s and subsequently the plagues of these monsters were relegated to fantasy. Ever since then though, any nation that could secretly vaccinated their children against becoming zombies, vampires or other horrible creatures.

But with the rise of the modern anti-vaxxer movement, these diseases that turn humans into monsters have returned.

 
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CarlManvers2019

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2007: The start of the modern anti-vaccination movement begins here, when celebrity Jenny McCarthy claims her son became autistic because of his vaccinations. Let us imagine a slightly different timeline up to this point. You see, zombism and vampirism, among other mythical humanoid monsters, were actually caused by disease. The vaccinations for these were invented in the 1800s and subsequently the plagues of these monsters were regulated to fantasy. Ever since then though, any nation that could secretly vaccinated their children against becoming zombies, vampires or other horrible creatures.

But with the rise of the modern anti-vaxxer movement, these diseases that turn humans into monsters have returned.


That sounds like an awesome horror comedy action film


Here's a What If?, just so you know I only played Bioshock 2 and Infinite

What if? Rapture actually existed, but the resident John Galt-Expy/Deconstruction actually kept to his principles, was a surprisingly fair and honest businessman and even did charity on the side and hoped to be an example and decided that it wasn't so much as money and building a bigger business that was his ambition, but making people follow his lead of their own volition and be smart whenever things turn South

How would the Cold War turn out if say, this growing number of underwater arcologies full of non-hypocritical and surprisingly nice Capitalists were discovered by both sides of the war?
 

CarlManvers2019

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Unfortunately not, AH established itself as the place for alternate history long ago. Fortunately pre 1900 and post 1900 forums are open to non registered people, but there hasn't been a really interesting timline for some time now.

So it’s got a pseudo monopoly or that status as the place where most likely people are going to post or use
 

CarlManvers2019

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1919: The Boston Police Department went on strike this year, a watershed moment for the influence of public unions. As a result, criminals were basically free to run amok. What if vigilantes emerged? Masked vigilantes who soon gain alter egos, who fight against disorder.

A repeat or Watchmen but WITHOUT Mr. Manhattan

Lots of police will complain about masked vigilantes stealing their jobs
 

CarlManvers2019

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Iaindex the guy who made Arose From Out The Azure is there....just to make sure he and Ian The Admin are different people right?

Also saw some posts that mentioned CalBear and even without many insults, they didn’t sound like they liked him
 

CarlManvers2019

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I know this thread’s more or less dead, but reading the work of @Navarro made me think one question

How possible or hard would it have been if the United States of America was “more accurate” by including all or most of both North and South America

Like Canada and Mexico as “states” and weird situations like South American countries being torn between having populations wanting to illegally migrate or fight being conquered and remade into parts of the USA or similar

I’m sorta guessing a problem with elections and the economy would occur

That said, an entire nation composed of two continents with way more than 50 states....how long would that last?
 

PsihoKekec

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I think this would lead to a nation that is just too big to be united succesfully. The Civil War would be very different, that's for sure.
 

Lanmandragon

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I know this thread’s more or less dead, but reading the work of @Navarro made me think one question

How possible or hard would it have been if the United States of America was “more accurate” by including all or most of both North and South America

Like Canada and Mexico as “states” and weird situations like South American countries being torn between having populations wanting to illegally migrate or fight being conquered and remade into parts of the USA or similar

I’m sorta guessing a problem with elections and the economy would occur

That said, an entire nation composed of two continents with way more than 50 states....how long would that last?
Do you mean annexed now or earlier? Because there are plausibleways the US could've had more of NA. All of it I don't really think could be achieved let alone SA.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Do you mean annexed now or earlier? Because there are plausibleways the US could've had more of NA. All of it I don't really think could be achieved let alone SA.

Earlier, like before the 20th century.

Somehow, I don’t think accusations of racism would work if the say the State of Old Mexico didn’t like the guys trying to get to them
 

Lanmandragon

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Earlier, like before the 20th century.

Somehow, I don’t think accusations of racism would work if the say the State of Old Mexico didn’t like the guys trying to get to them
Well first up you could get Quebec to join the ARW. That's possible but highly unlikely. If it happened though Canada is basically gurateed to become America. Minus maybe the Atlantic island states.
Then you have the Mexican American war. Nick Trist was the negotiator he flat disobeyed POTUS. By accepting what we got OTL when he was supposed to take everything to the Tropic of Cancer plus all of Baja. So that'd be easy as pie. There was also some talk of the Yucatan wanting annexed. That'd be very improbable but still possible.
Next you have the Domican Republic requesting annexation. That's extremely possible as it only missed by one vote OTL. If that happened it's nearly gurateed we'd take the entire isle of Hispaniola. As there's basically no way we'd leave hati alone.
Lastly you've got the Spanish American war. Right before it started a law was passed called the "Teller Amendment". This barred the US from annexing Cuba post war. It was largley driven by sugar producers who didn't want to compete directly wuth Cuban producers. Butterfly that law passing and we'd likely have kept Cuba post war. That's what I've got off the top of my head. Might be more but I'd need to read up on stuff
 

AndrewJTalon

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I know this thread’s more or less dead, but reading the work of @Navarro made me think one question

How possible or hard would it have been if the United States of America was “more accurate” by including all or most of both North and South America

Like Canada and Mexico as “states” and weird situations like South American countries being torn between having populations wanting to illegally migrate or fight being conquered and remade into parts of the USA or similar

I’m sorta guessing a problem with elections and the economy would occur

That said, an entire nation composed of two continents with way more than 50 states....how long would that last?

Dead how? We just post as we're inspired, and I haven't been inspired lately. That said, I do have one suggestion:

1963: President Kennedy proposed a joint moon mission with the Soviet Union. What if this had happened, and continued even under Lyndon B. Johnson and the Nixon administration?
 

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