Winston Bush
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McCarthy was right and we need more McCarthys today. Yeah he's not perfect but communism and socialism needs to be scourged from the world for the exact same reason that fascism needs to be scourged. They're two sides of the same authoritarian coin.
Well there goes the neighbourhood. A pathological liar, who made up most of his 'evidence' is far, far from perfect.
Communism needs to be defeated like any autocratic let alone totalitarian system. [Which is a much wider category than most people realise].
The problem with socialism is it means different things to different people. For the hard right it often means 'anything I don't agree with'.
Both communism and socialism flourish for the same reason. The current system in place operates on behave of a small proportion of the population and the interests of the bulk of the population are often ignored. So there's a very easy way to avoid either of them. Simply treat people as human beings rather than economic units or pawns to be exploited.
No, McCarthy did more damage to the anticommunist movement than any communist. He lied to the American public about what he knew, and the only reason he named some correct people was that there were so many targets he got them by accident. He lied about his actions in the war, then he lied to a small republican women's meeting, but that went viral, and he was stuck with the big massive lie and thought that the only way out was through. He is one of the worst non-Confederate senators we've ever had.McCarthy was right and we need more McCarthys today. Yeah he's not perfect but communism and socialism needs to be scourged from the world for the exact same reason that fascism needs to be scourged. They're two sides of the same authoritarian coin.
I don't know what you want me to say. Communism and socialism are as evil as fascism. The problem is, most modern academia refuse to label them as such and in fact try to push them as legitimate or workable systems and the impressionable youth eat it up. McCarthy may not have been a perfect bastion of truth of but ultimately his message of communism and socialism being evils that will destroy any society that employs them was correct. Considering there has never been a successful, morally or economically speaking, communist/socialist state, he was right to do so.Well there goes the neighbourhood. A pathological liar, who made up most of his 'evidence' is far, far from perfect.
Communism needs to be defeated like any autocratic let alone totalitarian system. [Which is a much wider category than most people realise].
The problem with socialism is it means different things to different people. For the hard right it often means 'anything I don't agree with'.
Both communism and socialism flourish for the same reason. The current system in place operates on behave of a small proportion of the population and the interests of the bulk of the population are often ignored. So there's a very easy way to avoid either of them. Simply treat people as human beings rather than economic units or pawns to be exploited.
Which is a shame. As noted towards stevep, he wasn't perfect but his aim was objectively correct. Communism/socialism needs to be seen in the same way fascism is seen.No, McCarthy did more damage to the anticommunist movement than any communist. He lied to the American public about what he knew, and the only reason he named some correct people was that there were so many targets he got them by accident. He lied about his actions in the war, then he lied to a small republican women's meeting, but that went viral, and he was stuck with the big massive lie and thought that the only way out was through. He is one of the worst non-Confederate senators we've ever had.
No, it's far different than not being perfect. He was straight up a bad person. His motive for the hearings was not being caught in a lie, not hunting down communists, those just happened to line up together. His actions are one of the reasons that communists aren't hated and aren't looked at with suspicion.Which is a shame. As noted towards stevep, he wasn't perfect but his aim was objectively correct. Communism/socialism needs to be seen in the same way fascism is seen.
What he did was the equivalent randomly firing into a crowd, and happening to hit some terrorists, but not stopping the terrorist attack, and distracting emergency services from dealing with the attack. He is scum, and his name forever marred, as it deserves.
Ooh, there's a controversial take: McCarthy was a commie spy! I'll back it, if no one else will.I think the bottom line worth considering when it comes to McCarthy is to consider that his actions were literally identical to those of a hypothetical highly placed Communist deep cover agent who wanted to cover up actual Communist operations by burying them in a storm of highly publicized false accusations against innocent Americans.
Ooh, there's a controversial take: McCarthy was a commie spy! I'll back it, if no one else will.
No, I get you, I was joking.I don't mean he necessarily was a Communist spy; I mean his actions were literally identical to such a hypothetical, which really should highlight just how utterly scummy he was. If anything, his actions are even more contemptible than an actual spy, because an actual spy can be given credit for courage and loyalty to his actual nation, whereas a non-spy McCarthy betrayed his actual nation out of pure cowardice and selfishness.
iām gonna pick a random board member to ask to respond and a random topic:
User: @Lord Sovereign
Topic:Roman Empire.
The Roman Empire's downfall was entirely avoidable and only brought on by one inexplicable bad decision after the other over the course of two hundred years. Also, pencil pushers who craved power but couldn't wield it kept removing the competent leaders.
Socialism and communism also treat people like economic units and pawns to be exploited only you know with fewer rights, less food and a much lower standard of living.
Iām going to make this thread pre-1900 from now on since it will be more distant from current times(thus less emotianally close to home,hopefully making discussion more āLogicalā). I also hope that by allowing debate of the points that people will be able to reach a more accurate conclussion through it.
Thats a bit far. How about pre 2000s or pre 90s? I mean most of the stuff people know about or have strong opinions on aren't centuries old.Iām going to make this thread pre-1900 from now on since it will be more distant from current times(thus less emotianally close to home,hopefully making discussion more āLogicalā). I also hope that by allowing debate of the points that people will be able to reach a more accurate conclussion through it.