As it applies to school choice, yes.Question here- are you in favor of bussing?
As it applies to school choice, yes.Question here- are you in favor of bussing?
"This time communism will work!"Everything can be racist. It all depends on how it is implemented.
Yep, because they are dealing with a long telephone-game retelling of the opening of the Aegean Sea into the Black Sea, and don't want to admit it.Isin't one of the keystone narrtives of judasim and christianity is that the whole modern human species came from 8 people? Somthing about a big ark and a flood that wiped out the whole earth save for the people on the ark? That's kind of a big detail, or are we just going to take bits and pecies of the new testament when it suits us?
Yes all men are brothers . God also gave certain lands to Shem, others to Japheth, and Ham got other places. Not to mention the whole Tower of Babel which happened later. You can be ethno nationalist and still Christian. Ethno nationalism is not the same as racism or Nazism.Isin't one of the keystone narrtives of judasim and christianity is that the whole modern human species came from 8 people? Somthing about a big ark and a flood that wiped out the whole earth save for the people on the ark? That's kind of a big detail, or are we just going to take bits and pecies of the new testament when it suits us?
Yes all men are brothers . God also gave certain lands to Shem, others to Japheth, and Ham got other places. Not to mention the whole Tower of Babel which happened later. You can be ethno nationalist and still Christian. Ethno nationalism is not the same as racism or Nazism.
Ethno nationalism has very little to do with skin color. Russians and poles are both white yet are different ethnic groups. They have different culture and different religion. Or here is another example that could piss people off. Modern day Turks are barely related to the ancient Turkic people. Ancient Turks were asiatic like mongols. Modern Turks are close genetically to modern Greeks. A Turk is basically a Greek who abandoned his religion and culture of his ancestors to the religion and culture of his conquerors. Ethnicity is much more than genes someone with the same genes as you can be your complete opposite.and yet the bible in the new testament also encourages people to marry within the lord not just their own races and specifically not show preferences due to outward stuff like skin color. Ethno nationalist seem to make the mistake of saying that skin color= ideology which is weird because frankly no one has bent the white man over like white men has, especially in the 21st century.
you guys are so busy protesting about how your not a nazi (we get it your not a nazi, contray to what the left thinks that's a very low bar), you don't dress the other issues with your ideology.
you guys are so busy protesting about how your not a nazi (we get it your not a nazi, contray to what the left thinks that's a very low bar), you don't dress the other issues with your ideology.
Ethno nationalism has very little to do with skin color. Russians and poles are both white yet are different ethnic groups. They have different culture and different religion. Or here is another example that could piss people off. Modern day Turks are barely related to the ancient Turkic people. Ancient Turks were asiatic like mongols. Modern Turks are close genetically to modern Greeks. A Turk is basically a Greek who abandoned his religion and culture of his ancestors to the religion and culture of his conquerors. Ethnicity is much more than genes someone with the same genes as you can be your complete opposite.
Where does Christ or his Church teach that ethnicity or nations or race or language are invalid categories that the faithful are forbidden to use to organize around?
Protip: Nowhere. The Orthodox Church is in fact organized around national and ethnic jurisdictional authority structures.
Snip out of context quotes given in bad faith
26For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Fail. This passage has never been taken to mean that men and women don't actually exist any more than nations. Do try to remember that the vast majority of Christians do not subscribe to the defined and condemned heresy of Sola Scriptura.
Umm ethno nationalism doesn’t require racial purity. I doubt there even is such a thing. It calls for following the ways of your ancestors aka cultural purity which would also lead to religious purity for historically Christian nations.how exacly does that help your argument, you've essentially just admited that Humans have interbreed. So much for entho purity. If you really are all gun hoe for this, then go or stay in the land of your ansetors and don't trsavel anywhere.
I'll quote the post that began this particular bit from me, to show the statement I was arguing against:American or white would be pretty accurate to call a race, as accurate as Mexican or Latino. Mexican and Latino in general is an admixture of Spanish and Native, American ethnically would be an admixture of Europeans.
As you can see, it is specifically attributing genocide to the extensively overarching label of "White", which we agree is beyond the scope of ethnicity. I'm not letting the lot of you juggle goalposts freely, either there's a pan-European identity you're defending, or you're defending specific ethnicities. Pick one, and make sure you stick with it. No jumping on people arguing against the other as if attacking yours.If white people not wanting to be genocided is literal nazism, then what is wrong with it?
Citation on ancient Persia actually maintaining ethnic purity? To my understanding, states have always had their populations blend over time, unless they actively try to suppress travel. The whole thing with millions upon millions of Asians being descended from Ghengis Khan comes to mind, and both Rome and the Mongols actually engaged in rampant theft of cultural properties to fuel their conquest (much more the latter from all the things they needed to get to bootstrap from nomad horse-archers to dealing with walled cities and trans-Eurasian trade)But they were not "multicultural" in modern sense: these multiethnic states consisted exclusively of an alliance (or an empire ruling) a number of monoethnic communities.
...So are we just ignoring how "Hispanic" became a thing from the Muslim conquest of the Iberian Peninsula or "Latino" from the previous conquering Central America? Or how it is Europeans have a lot of Neanderthal traits? The actual difference of the modern case is that it isn't an open violent conquest, as was the historic norm, but rather the peaceful migrants are being allowed to integrate and do so in large enough quantities to truly blend ethnicities from it. Which, to my understanding, was actually a thing in Rome and the Mongolian Empire, as well as most of the Chinese Dynasties, to a much greater net effect than modern times have had so far.And you are missing the part when this is the first time in history when mass migrations could significantly affect the genetic makeup of populations.
Minor correction, it's more that the science has shown it can't be a significant percentile difference outside very extreme conditions like chromosome duplication (Down's Syndrome) or genetic breakdown from exceptionally large mutations (Fragile X Syndrome). Environmental factors constantly come up as massively overpowering existent genetic divergence of humans.Cognitive traits in a person are not 'heritable' due to race; cognitive traits aren't inheritable at all.
Fun fact, you directly quoting verses is Sola Scriptura. To not be engaged in it, you must be quoting members of the Clergy themselves rather than scripture, as holding it as heresy means that independent reading of the scripture is not theologically valid, and therefor one must specifically appeal to established authority's readings rather than the text of scripture.Do try to remember that the vast majority of Christians do not subscribe to the defined and condemned heresy of Sola Scriptura.
Citation on ancient Persia actually maintaining ethnic purity? To my understanding, states have always had their populations blend over time, unless they actively try to suppress travel. The whole thing with millions upon millions of Asians being descended from Ghengis Khan comes to mind, and both Rome and the Mongols actually engaged in rampant theft of cultural properties to fuel their conquest (much more the latter from all the things they needed to get to bootstrap from nomad horse-archers to dealing with walled cities and trans-Eurasian trade)
...So are we just ignoring how "Hispanic" became a thing from the Muslim conquest of the Iberian Peninsula or "Latino" from the previous conquering Central America? Or how it is Europeans have a lot of Neanderthal traits? The actual difference of the modern case is that it isn't an open violent conquest, as was the historic norm, but rather the peaceful migrants are being allowed to integrate and do so in large enough quantities to truly blend ethnicities from it. Which, to my understanding, was actually a thing in Rome and the Mongolian Empire, as well as most of the Chinese Dynasties, to a much greater net effect than modern times have had so far.
But that’s not what sola scriptura means. Someone rejecting sola scripture does not mean that you can’t read and cite scripture. It means that there is more than just the Bible for Christian practice, and also that learned church men are needed to translate and interpret. It doesn’t mean you can’t interpret some easy verses. For example thou shall not steal is simple and you can get it. But there are some passages that have multiple meanings that not everyone can pick up. For example when it says do not put stumbling blocks in front of the blind there is the obvious prohibition of bullying a blind person but there are also subtle messages there.Fun fact, you directly quoting verses is Sola Scriptura. To not be engaged in it, you must be quoting members of the Clergy themselves rather than scripture, as holding it as heresy means that independent reading of the scripture is not theologically valid, and therefor one must specifically appeal to established authority's readings rather than the text of scripture.
If you are going to state a standard required for a position to be valid, I'm going to demand you hold to that standard.
But that’s not what sola scriptura means. Someone rejecting sola scripture does not mean that you can’t read and cite scripture. It means that there is more than just the Bible for Christian practice, and also that learned church men are needed to translate and interpret. It doesn’t mean you can’t interpret some easy verses. For example thou shall not steal is simple and you can get it. But there are some passages that have multiple meanings that not everyone can pick up. For example when it says do not put stumbling blocks in front of the blind there is the obvious prohibition of bullying a blind person but there are also subtle messages there.
They have more than anyone else, and it's because Neanderthals interbred with the post-Ice Age waves of African/ME sourced people.Third, Europeans having a "lot" of Neanderthal traits is simply wrong. Yes, there are some, but Neanderthals were simply outbred.
They have more than anyone else, and it's because Neanderthals interbred with the post-Ice Age waves of African/ME sourced people.
There were multiple waves of paleo-migrations from Africa, with the Ice Age providing the largest gap, which resulted in previous waves in Europe and Asia differentiating into Neanderthals and Denisovans subspecies that were then folded back into the main human gene pool after the Ice Age.
Citations, please? Particularly on the ones I actually mentioned as sources of ethnic mixture, which did not include Rome. I know perfectly well that Rome actually did have specific measures to stem interbreeding and mentioned such measures as a source of exceptions, which you agreed to the presence of.Except that was never the case. If you study Byzantine Empire, you will notice that pre-Roman languages and pre-Christ religions (something Byzantines did not take kindly) actually survived until 9th or 10th century, in both Peloponnese and Asia Minor.
On the scale of literal centuries, the occasional merchant does, in fact, constitute ethnic blending. Major inter-regional crossroads have a tendency for this to be obvious in their demography. Travel technologies enable a larger scale of reasonable interbreeding, but then the large ports you mention were the lifeblood of basically every Empire ever to wrap a meaningful portion of the Mediteranian meaning your "exceptions" constituted most meaningful urban areas.Travel technology was primitive enough that, with exception of large ports, they did not need to suppress travel for it to not happen.
Doc has been engaged in purity spiral bullshit in huge swaths of their posts, going full "There Is Only One Church" on more than one occasion. They want to bring up layman interpretations of scripture not being valid, I'm going to demand them be an absolute hardass about it because they are already an absolute hardass about a great deal.But that’s not what sola scriptura means.