Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel



Well, this seems like Hamas started trying to find a way to blame Islamic Jihad for their missile which ended up falling on the Hamas headquarter's/hospital it was hidden under.

1. why would IDF bleep out the names of hamas?

2. didn't we establish the hamas only communicates via courier and face to face meetings because they know all digital communication is being spied on? this is how israel "cyber intelligence" completely failed to notice the attack ahead of time.

3. what rank is "operative"?
 
Have you heard of Operation Eland?

During the Rhodesian Bush War in 1976, the Selous Scouts, a special operations regiment of the Rhodesian Security Forces, identified a major base and training camp for the opposing ZANLA (Zimbabwe African National Liberation Army) forces located across the border in neighboring Mozambique. A force of 84 Selous Scouts, transported by a convoy disguised to look like soldiers of Mozambique's ruling party, crossed the border into neighboring Mozambique (white soldiers in the Selous Scouts wore black ski masks).

They reached the camp (along the they were saluted by deceived military checkpoints as they passed), bluffed their way past the guards at the front gate, and entered the base. A whistle was blown by the Rhodesians, which was the camp's emergency signal to muster at the parade grounds. Thousands of ZANLA guerrillas rushed to the center of the camp, and the Selous Scouts opened fire on them at point-blank range with both small arms and anti-aircraft guns and inflicted massive casualties on the unaware enemy. The Rhodesians then escaped back to their country, fighting their way through a military checkpoint and destroying a bridge to cover their escape. The Selous Scouts estimated that they killed roughly 300 enemy combatants, but they would later recover documents revealing the number to be over a thousand. Meanwhile, the Selous Scouts only suffered four injuries. It was such a humiliating defeat for ZANLA that they lied and claimed that the Selous Scouts massacred a refugee camp, although they would later admit that it was indeed a military base.

This lie was reinforced by (of course) Amnesty International, and led to South Africa implementing sanctions on Rhodesia that led to their surrender.

And then, we know what happened. And we know how the Left reacted to it, and still does.

We're seeing the same tactics again. Once again, the West's empathy is being used to manipulate them.
 
1. why would IDF bleep out the names of hamas?
To protect the sources and make it harder to figure out who's phone is compromised.
2. didn't we establish the hamas only communicates via courier and face to face meetings because they know all digital communication is being spied on? this is how israel "cyber intelligence" completely failed to notice the attack ahead of time.
No, I'd never seen that put forward.
3. what rank is "operative"?
No idea, but it's not like Hamas advertises it's internal rank chart for the west to peruse at will.
 
I reread and it still clearly looks like it says that...

if this is not what you meant then please explain what you are actually trying to say here
@mrttao @Jormungandr I edited in order to do so. The TLDR version of this misstep : my severe lack of realization that I was thinking in one of my mother tongues and didn't quite realize until your response that it had the opposite meaning than in English and I got the opposite argument that I wanted to get across. I added some rightfully needed edits.
That's an underwhelmingly degenerate take. While I disagree with you guys on the macroargument of the matter, I am not going to pretend that Hamas has any sort of tolerance for anyone who slightly deviates from any type of sociocultural norm let alone being openly liking same-sex anything.

Wheter they like it or not the only place there can be somewhat open appreciation of the same sex in that area of the world is Israel (and until the 2010s Turkey) :

This was demonstrated by a tragedy where a Palestinian family who lost their daughter to a stabbing by an extremist Orthodox Jewish person Victim of Jerusalem Pride attack dies of injuries now you guys know I ain't exactly a fan of LGBT pride parades (especially after me seeing the one in Prague) but even I found disheartening : her life was already complicated by being Palestinian and being of the LGBT, now her life had ended because an actual bigoted bastard though her 16 year old life was worthless. EDIT : IN PALESTINE (REGARDLESS IF GAZA OR WEST BANK) YOU WOULD NOT HER ABOUT THIS AND IT WOULD BARELY MAKE THE NEWS, BECAUSE ANTI-LGBT BEHAVIOUR IS TOLERATED AND ENCOURAGED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE INDIGENOUS LOCALS LIVING THERE. IN ISRAEL YOU CAN CALL A HOMOPHOBE MURDERER AN HOMOPHOBE MURDERER.

Big difference between Israel and the rest of the MENA region is that you can talk openly about the homophobia whereas even in the most progressive city of the Persian gulf you need to use synonyms or word "workarounds" to discuss the LGBT issue.

So, to anyone affirming that bullshit, is a fucking cretin.

Saying this as someone who dislike Pride parades, though not because of religious or societal or cultural norms.

EDIT : TLDR : I meant that even I that I am seriously critical of Israel can recognize is better to be LGBT IN ISRAEL THAN HAMAS'S GAZA.
Therefore, any progressive knucklehead who thinks being LGBT is better in Gaza and/or Palestine is a fucking cunthead.
 
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I saw NPCs on Twitter say that Gaza was better for alphabet people than Florida lol. These people are beyond cracked.

Oh yeah seeing those posts was hilarious.



Brown people literally have no agency. Everything has been decided for them by White Colonizers decades earlier.



Maybe we'll see an exodus of Queers going to Gaza to form a Volunteer battalion like they did with the Kurdish SDF in the Syrian Civil War? :sneaky:



It's so commonplace now the posts are violating Poe's Law.



Here's another sarcastic post!



Oh wait no that guy is actually serious. Nevermind... 💀
 
To protect the sources and make it harder to figure out who's phone is compromised.
1. There are no sources to protect. it was an intercepted call.
2. ALL of the phones are compromised.
3. Anyone who knows any of the people involved would easily recognize their voices. It is a paper thin disguise at best. especially if those guys are higher ranked as they imply...
No idea, but it's not like Hamas advertises it's internal rank chart for the west to peruse at will.
If we have no idea what their rank charts are, how do we know they are ranked as "operative"?

Actually, operative is an english word. I seriously doubt they use it.
I get the feeling this is one of those cases where they are using a fancy term to refer to a grunt to make them seem higher ranked.

I am sure the hamas accidentally blew up their own base. They are incompetent like that.
I just find this released convo to be pretty blatant and poorly made propaganda
 
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1. why would IDF bleep out the names of hamas?
Because if someone's a fuckup on the opposite side, why tell Hamas who the fuckup is?

And that's the 'source' they want to protect. If your enemy has a dumbass, don't tell them who it is, because then you can't get more info from the dumbass.

2. didn't we establish the hamas only communicates via courier and face to face meetings because they know all digital communication is being spied on? this is how israel "cyber intelligence" completely failed to notice the attack ahead of time.
People are fuckups, and on top of that, coordinating under fire causes OpSec to go downwards, as people know that doing the safe way is slow and possibly dangerous if they have to travel above ground.
If we have no idea what their rank charts are, how do we know they are ranked as "operative"?

Actually, operative is an english word. I seriously doubt they use it.
I get the feeling this is one of those cases where they are using a fancy term to refer to a grunt to make them seem higher ranked.

I am sure the hamas accidentally blew up their own base. They are incompetent like that.
I just find this released convo to be pretty blatant and poorly made propaganda
Eh, Operative is likely the word to use. They don't want to call the person a soldier or warrior or some rank like private, because that's legitimizing Hamas. Saying terrorist is redundant, and doesn't tell us anything about rank. An operative is probably the translation of what they are called internally by Israel (though likely not what they call themselves).

And Hamas thug/grunt just doesn't sound very official. IDK, what single word would you use?

EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I think Operative is the right word. It's used frequently with terrorism, for example, this article:
"An alleged Al-Shabaab operative...".
 
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Oh yeah seeing those posts was hilarious.



Brown people literally have no agency. Everything has been decided for them by White Colonizers decades earlier.



Maybe we'll see an exodus of Queers going to Gaza to form a Volunteer battalion like they did with the Kurdish SDF in the Syrian Civil War? :sneaky:



It's so commonplace now the posts are violating Poe's Law.



Here's another sarcastic post!



Oh wait no that guy is actually serious. Nevermind... 💀

So you trying to make me like the Palestinians are you? Well it’s working at least they take their religion seriously unlike the Jews.
 
Good to know all it takes for someone like you to support Hamas and friends is them tossing gays off buildings and being willing to stone to death non-hetero's.
No it doesen't have anything to do with that. It's just, what exactly is your point with posting that here? Men who stick their penisis in other men's but holes is not a sacred cow for conservatives. The Muslims giving traditional punishments to sodomy does not make them evil who are you to judge. And it does bring up the question of why we should support the Jews, their claim to the Israel is based on the Bible, yet they do not seem to be following the law of Moses. The Jews seem to be the wicked ones in the eyes of God(even assuming Judaism is true since they aren't following God's laws). Like make that argument at spacebattles. But why should we be outraged that the Palestinian authority sends gays to jail for 10 years? Before stonewall the U.S. used to criminalize homosexuality. Curious what the conservacucks want to conserve what year was society good for them? Aparently before 1969 it was too much?

Go fuck yourself I merely defended Thomas Jefferson, I did not say that such actions are supposed to be supported or be done.
 
No it doesen't have anything to do with that. It's just, what exactly is your point with posting that here? Men who stick their penisis in other men's but holes is not a sacred cow for conservatives. The Muslims giving traditional punishments to sodomy does not make them evil who are you to judge.
'Traditional punishments' is not and never was a justified reason to toss gays off buildings.

Good to know you think it does though, and that you admire the Muslim's doing it.
And it does bring up the question of why we should support the Jews, their claim to the Israel is based on the Bible, yet they do not seem to be following the law of Moses. The Jews seem to be the wicked ones in the eyes of God(even assuming Judaism is true since they aren't following God's laws).
Because Israeli's understand that secular law and religious law are different things, and that it is not ok to murder someone for simply being non-hetero.
Like make that argument at spacebattles. But why should we be outraged that the Palestinian authority sends gays to jail for 10 years? Before stonewall the U.S. used to criminalize homosexuality. Curious what the conservacucks want to conserve what year was society good for them? Aparently before 1969 it was too much?
Because the idea that being non-hetero should be criminalized is horrific and has resulted in unjustified abuses of so many people.

But as I said, good to know that you admire people tossing non-hetero's off buildings out of religious zeal.
 
'Traditional punishments' is not and never was a justified reason to toss gays off buildings.

Good to know you think it does though, and that you admire the Muslim's doing it.
Why not? How do you justify your oppinions as objective morality?

Because Israeli's understand that secular law and religious law are different things
Doesen't Israel base it's entire existance upon being given the land(conditionally) by God. Again sounds pretty religious.

and that it is not ok to murder someone for simply being non-hetero.
Again not murder if it's done as the judicial government. Also again why not how are you justifying your oppinions as objective morality?
Because the idea that being non-hetero should be criminalized is horrific and has resulted in unjustified abuses of so many people.

But as I said, good to know that you admire people tossing non-hetero's off buildings out of religious zeal.
Why is it horrific?
 
Why not? How do you justify your oppinions as objective morality?
... Because if any moral system has "we should execute someone for being gay", or for changing religion, etc, some basically unchangeable characteristic that's non-harmful to other people, that moral system is trash.

Source: the objective morality system known as the NAP.
 
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Then what do you base it on?
Why do the Jewish people have a right to the a nation in that specific region of the world?
Idunno...
Why do Germans have a right to a nation in the specific region of the world that's their historic homeland?
Why do Japanese have a right to a nation in the specific region of the world that's their historic homeland?
Why do Spanish have a right to a nation in the specific region of the world that's their historic homeland?
 
Why not? How do you justify your oppinions as objective morality?


Doesen't Israel base it's entire existance upon being given the land(conditionally) by God. Again sounds pretty religious.


Again not murder if it's done as the judicial government. Also again why not how are you justifying your oppinions as objective morality?

Why is it horrific?
If you do not understand why killing people for simply being non-hetero is wrong and horrific, there is no point trying to engage with you for anything other than mockery.
 

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