Tiamat
I've seen the future...
Van Jones is a known Communist and an absolute reprehensible piece of garbage. I knew CNN had really begun to go downhill when they started paying him to be on board.
United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots
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Van Jones is a known Communist and an absolute reprehensible piece of garbage. I knew CNN had really begun to go downhill when they started paying him to be on board.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Invictus, Watch Dog, take a chill pill and look at some actual numbers.
Worry about genocide when more than two dozen people have been killed over a month of violence. And also when they're entirely or nearly so a part of the targeted group.
A lot of BLM are dangerous lunatics. They should be treated like the dangerous lunatics that they are. That they aren't taken seriously by a lot of government orgs that should, is definitely concerning.
We're still a long, long way from a genocide. Stop bitching about what might be coming down the road later, you're just making things worse, and turning off people looking for reasoned arguments.
Riots have consequences. Elections also have consequences. If the left can't pull a win in November after all this, then no, we aren't heading towards 'genocide,' we're having another leftist temper tantrum, one that isn't even as bad as the 1970's tantrums were.
Remember, it's leftists that buy into the guilt shit. They're mostly just tearing down their own political pseudo-allies.
Worry about genocide when more than two dozen people have been killed over a month of violence. And also when they're entirely or nearly so a part of the targeted group.
A lot of BLM are dangerous lunatics. They should be treated like the dangerous lunatics that they are. That they aren't taken seriously by a lot of government orgs that should, is definitely concerning.
We're still a long, long way from a genocide. Stop bitching about what might be coming down the road later, you're just making things worse, and turning off people looking for reasoned arguments.
Riots have consequences. Elections also have consequences. If the left can't pull a win in November after all this, then no, we aren't heading towards 'genocide,' we're having another leftist temper tantrum, one that isn't even as bad as the 1970's tantrums were.
Remember, it's leftists that buy into the guilt shit. They're mostly just tearing down their own political pseudo-allies.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
It's not as bad as it was in the 60's. It got better.
Stop kvetching about things going downhill, and do something to make them better.
And no, posting your relentless pessimism does not count as doing something to make things better.
We are currently undergoing a political realignment, those always suck.
But the fact is as strong as the left currently is, using out rage mobs like crazy to destroy people well that power comes at a price. The price of using outrage mobs is that it is incredibly difficult to control them once unleased and their very much shit at things like discipline and limiting their targets.
The outrage mob is always looking for more targets is always targeting more and more people, which means they make more and more enemies. How many people here used to be left wing? Or moderate, or Libertarian or just didn't give a fuck about politics until some asshole made it your business.
Then there is the fact that so many of them are control freaks, and speaking from experience control freaks are shit at working together. So in the long term I have faith things are going to get better but the short and medium term are going to suck balls.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Yup, I have a feeling that they’ll be destroying many things both physical and not, for the next few years
Lots of franchises are probably gonna turn lots of people off, especially if said people experiences the riots, when said franchises and their companies start glorifying the rioters and demonizing many other people to a greater extent than usual
LivinInABox
Member
Not sure if anyone saw this but Cali is trying to repeal civil rights.
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California Proposition 16, Repeal Proposition 209 Affirmative Action Amendment (2020)
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f1onagher
Well-known member
I read the arguments, they're literally not trying to hide the ball here. The pendulum in California has swung so far that they need to get rid of racial equality laws that were passed to protect minorities because those laws are now being used to protect whites. I really hope this passes because I really do believe its a bridge too far. I can't wait to see Progressives spin dismantling minority protections because they don't advantage minorities enough.Not sure if anyone saw this but Cali is trying to repeal civil rights.
California Proposition 16, Repeal Proposition 209 Affirmative Action Amendment (2020)
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Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
This is the black version of the same shit i see neo nazis say, they're not so different from each other as leftist like to say
LivinInABox
Member
They've already spun this, They're saying this is so they can implement Affirmative Action. I don't think they understand exactly how bad this can backfire for them, They never really do.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Yes, the right in these overwhelmingly Democrat-controlled State Governorships, legislatures, and judiciary, county and city governments.
Yes, that right,. Which has literally no power whatsoever in those specific areas. The mask is coming off in places that the Democrats have held complete control of for decades.
It's like this isn't going to result in huge lawsuits due to federal-level civil rights laws.
Stop being such doom and gloomers. The right is absolutely willing to fight, as proven by the pro-2nd protest in Virginia ~6 months ago. As will be proven when the election happens in November.
Yeah, it's bad that California and the Twin Cities are turning into post-modernist socialist shitholes. That really, really sucks. If you think this kind of shit is new, you've not been following politics very long. If you think there hasn't been pushback in different times and places, you're willfully ignoring things like how Trump just got SCOTUS go-ahead for *massively* ramped up the ability to deport, or how the riots have completely destroyed gun control as an issue.
Yes, things are bad. Yes, more can and should be done to turn things around.
Your black-pilled crap is helping nothing, and is in fact exactly what the leftist media blitz is trying to create. They want you to be too demoralized to vote in November, because they know that if they lose both houses of congress in November, there will be serious legal backlash to all this violence they have fomented.
Get a grip, and stop playing into the enemy's hands.
As I've said before, the difference between blackpilled and Leftist agent provacaturs is getting thinner and thinner.
The fact is it seems most blackpill would sooner accept a catastrophic strategic loss, over a few tactical consessions, to get the power the need for a strategic victory.
Radicals on both ends would sooner die than moderate, or just admit they are wrong. I, and many others, would 0sooner preserve the republic, more than any specific political ideology.
Blackpilled and SJWs are just two sides of the same extremist coin.
The fact is it seems most blackpill would sooner accept a catastrophic strategic loss, over a few tactical consessions, to get the power the need for a strategic victory.
Radicals on both ends would sooner die than moderate, or just admit they are wrong. I, and many others, would 0sooner preserve the republic, more than any specific political ideology.
Blackpilled and SJWs are just two sides of the same extremist coin.
Silly Reverend. He must've assumed that when these protests were meant to provoke dialogue and conversation that it was going to be some sort of two way exchange of ideas.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I feel obliged to point out that the idea of a republic, especially a legally egalitarian one, is a specific type of political ideology in and of itself. One which the left is determined to destroy.
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I recall regarding that Gopal incident in the UK, those protesting her obvious animosity towards white skinned people were said to be “rejecting the conversation”
Because conversations are one way ultimatums.
Because conversations are one way ultimatums.
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Yes, I am very aware of that.
I am also very aware that it is a nitpick. I am trying to help the Right in this fight.
Right now I feel very unwelcome on both sides, and rather fed up with the tribalism of both sides. Don't give me more reasons to see no one as representing me and both sides as unworthy of fighting for.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
If you'd prevent cogent policy proposals rather than ask for nebulous action and blaming the right for the effects the left's lies have had on their reputation, you'd get a much friendlier response.
I still can't think of anything you've said Republicans need to do aside from things they've already done, repeatedly, for decades.
Wait, no. You said something about environmentalism. Would you like me to start a thread where we can discuss actual policy positions on that issue?
I think moderates should support the right at the moment. If the insane side of the right (we have some examples of such authoritarian garbage here on the Sietch) startrs gaining dominance you can always switch sides, but IMO now is not that time.
I DID, back almost when the forum fucking went public, but no one fucking cares to use it.
There are few on the Right here who actually seem to give a damn about the environment, or actually advancing it as a platform.
Edit: Here's the link.
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If anyone wants to start a conservatism and conservation thread they are free to do so.
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Ill do it