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SoliFortissimi

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Mate, you're so naive now it's honestly worrying.

Helping out women in recent times has backfired massively on men.

It can range from being falsely accused on social media (which does destroy lives) to actually being charged/arrested (there have been cases where the woman's attacker has been a husband or boyfriend or something, and the 'Good Samaritan' gets thrown under the bus by her to protect such a scumbag, for example), or even sued.

It's simply not worth the risk now -- Being a "lawful citizen" by your context has a high chance of being harmful to you. I'm not going to risk my reputation, career, relationships or family.
Not in my experience, or in anyone's that I know of. There is generally great support for men who defend women, even in social media.

You may need to start looking outside 4chan.

Feminism has ultimately done incredible damage to Western civilization as a whole. While initially it did incredible good (even though the OG feminists, the Suffragettes, also had dark sides history and media try to ignore/pigeon hole), it's ultimately devolved into women being mouth-frothing gender Nazis.
What damage?
Yeah, UK and European laws have gone down the shitter massively. People joke about "law and order breaking down", but they're pretty much correct. It also doesn't help that law enforcement, the courts, and those in government are more worried about the most banal shit imaginable (such as pronoun usage, DEI, not wanting to 'offend minorities', et cetera) that anarchy is slowly taking over.
Wanna bet on how long it takes before another Reagan shows up?
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
Not in my experience, or in anyone's that I know of. There is generally great support for men who defend women, even in social media.

You may need to start looking outside 4chan.


What damage?

Wanna bet on how long it takes before another Reagan shows up?
Amusingly enough, I haven't gone to 4chan in years. I do miss the hilarity or /mlp sometimes (some batshit crazy stuff happened there, even if you weren't into MLP at the time).

In the past, I'd have agreed with you. But that was in the past and not (bad) modern times.

Anyway, more clueless men can be the potential sacrificial lambs all they want; just don't expect every man to be the same and risk their necks.

Mate, feminism has caused so much damage (and it's been discussed over and over in this forum throughout different topics) that it's literally a case of asking for what's on fire while inside of burning house. sigh

I'm predicting we're going to be seeing more and more "Right" governments in Europe soon; people genuinely are getting sick of all this shit, especially the corruption and migrant barbarians swarming into the continent, and the governments know it. It's why they're panicking and beginning to pull immoral or even illegal moves (in Germany, for example, they're so afraid that they're trying to outright ban "Far-Right/Alt-Right" parties) to keep hold of the status quo.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Since when is giving a rapist 60 days of community service a "eurocentric" thing?
This was never a thing in europe.

White european rapists still get the book thrown at them.
Here in Italy you get from 5 to 8 years of prison regardless of ethnicity, probably because femicide is constantly a big topic. And other criminals, also regardless of background, don't like rapists at all, as you could see with the gangrape of Palermo, who even the underage kid got a whopping 8 years because he faked being regretful mostly and the others rapist beasts have asked to be moved from another prison because the other prisoners have told them outspokenly that they wouldn't be treated with kids gloves.
You might survive the court, but the prison's inhabitants are much less tolerant of pests.
Helping out women in recent times has backfired massively on men.
Things like this I have only seen or heard happening in UK and US, not anywhere in mainland EU.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
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Here in Italy you get from 5 to 8 years of prison regardless of ethnicity, probably because femicide is constantly a big topic. And other criminals, also regardless of background, don't like rapists at all, as you could see with the gangrape of Palermo, who even the underage kid got a whopping 8 years because he faked being regretful mostly and the others rapist beasts have asked to be moved from another prison because the other prisoners have told them outspokenly that they wouldn't be treated with kids gloves.
You might survive the court, but the prison's inhabitants are much less tolerant of pests.

Things like this I have only seen or heard happening in UK and US, not anywhere in mainland EU.
Prison inmates killing kiddie-fuckers (and animal abusers) is pretty much universal, though. Unless they're someone like a Mafia boss or a Cartel leader, as soon as it gets out they're inside for raping an eight year old or something, they may as well be saving time by writing their last will in their cell.

Sooner or later, they'll be killed. And good fucking riddance to them.

It's more known in the US and UK, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in the EU just as much because of how different the media can be there in reporting things (different laws, et cetera).

IIRC from what I know, media in countries like France and Germany are a bit more restricted than those in the UK and US, so such situations are less reported on.
 

SoliFortissimi

Well-known member
Amusingly enough, I haven't gone to 4chan in years. I do miss the hilarity or /mlp sometimes (some batshit crazy stuff happened there, even if you weren't into MLP at the time).

In the past, I'd have agreed with you. But that was in the past and not (bad) modern times.

Anyway, more clueless men can be the potential sacrificial lambs all they want; just don't expect every man to be the same and risk their necks.

Mate, feminism has caused so much damage (and it's been discussed over and over in this forum throughout different topics) that it's literally a case of asking for what's on fire while inside of burning house. sigh

I'm predicting we're going to be seeing more and more "Right" governments in Europe soon; people genuinely are getting sick of all this shit, especially the corruption and migrant barbarians swarming into the continent, and the governments know it. It's why they're panicking and beginning to pull immoral or even illegal moves (in Germany, for example, they're so afraid that they're trying to outright ban "Far-Right/Alt-Right" parties) to keep hold of the status quo.
Words, words, and words. But you haven't provided a single concrete fact or argument.
In this reality, feminism has boosted social, economic, political, and health outcomes for over half the population. It has also supported the protection and nurturing of children and the lower classes. It has its crazies, but it has generally done right by a class of humankind that has generally been helpless against violence and deprivation.


What I expect to see instead is that the liberal parties start moving a little more to the right and the right wing parties start moving a little more to the left. Both for the same purpose: to appeal to the majority of the population that wants to be safe from criminals and anti-social elements but also hates the very idea of "nationalism".
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
Words, words, and words. But you haven't provided a single concrete fact or argument.
In this reality, feminism has boosted social, economic, political, and health outcomes for over half the population. It has also supported the protection and nurturing of children and the lower classes. It has its crazies, but it has generally done right by a class of humankind that has generally been helpless against violence and deprivation.


What I expect to see instead is that the liberal parties start moving a little more to the right and the right wing parties start moving a little more to the left. Both for the same purpose: to appeal to the majority of the population that wants to be safe from criminals and anti-social elements but also hates the very idea of "nationalism".
I honestly think you're naive and overly optimistic and it's going to bite you in the ass one day. All you have to do is look at the forest, not the trees, to see how bad things have become in Modern Times.

If you don't want to look, that's not my problem. shrug

Feminism has done some good things for Western society, yes, and that can't be denied, but with it all also came consequences, a light rot which originated all the way back to the original Suffragettes, which has grown worse over time and exploded in recent decades. The "crazies", as you put it, are pretty much what mainstream feminism is today, and even older feminists are calling them nuts now.

Yeah, no: Liberal parties, especially in the EU, are doing everything they can to hold onto power (especially in Germany, which is just shameful of them), and Right parties are either doubling down and still growing in popularity or are replacing what the "mainstream" currently is.

Europe is slowly waking up, but I'm wondering if the damage has already been done -- Especially with the barbarian hordes pretty much invading the continent.
 

SoliFortissimi

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If you don't want to look, that's not my problem. shrug
It's not my job to provide sources for your arguments. If you can't put up....

but with it all also came consequences
Like WHAT, exactly?

iberal parties, especially in the EU, are doing everything they can to hold onto power (especially in Germany, which is just shameful of them), and Right parties are either doubling down and still growing in popularity or are replacing what the "mainstream" currently is.
I fancy that the Euro liberals would rather betray their principles than give up power. They WILL try to undercut the right wing by providing more "publicly acceptable" versions of right wing policies, mind my words. Whether or not that works depends on whether the national parties can properly promote themselves through alternative media.
 

Wargamer08

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Words, words, and words. But you haven't provided a single concrete fact or argument.
In this reality, feminism has boosted social, economic, political, and health outcomes for over half the population. It has also supported the protection and nurturing of children and the lower classes. It has its crazies, but it has generally done right by a class of humankind that has generally been helpless against violence and deprivation.


What I expect to see instead is that the liberal parties start moving a little more to the right and the right wing parties start moving a little more to the left. Both for the same purpose: to appeal to the majority of the population that wants to be safe from criminals and anti-social elements but also hates the very idea of "nationalism".
Have you been living in a bubble? I guess you missed Nobel prize winning scientists and professors being chased out of employment by hack feminist journalists over singular mild jokes. I guess you missed a decade of increasingly ridiculous corporate lawsuits by feminists that have created a corporate culture that laments how zero males will take the risk to mentor females or even be in the same room as them alone.

How feminism and it's DEI policies have hollowed out and crippled large swaths of industries from aerospace to media.

You must have missed how empowered feminist girl bosses have led to some of largest movie bombs of all time. That it's increasingly likely to have brought down Disney as billions in IP has been laid to waste.

Now the US is a little light on arrests for intervening in attacks on women, but I assure you Europe and the commonwealth more then make up for that.

Now I think MGTOW bros take things far too far and are increasingly lionizing cowardice, but they didn't come out of nowhere. Just the state of alimony or custody in the US alone.
 

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
Not in my experience, or in anyone's that I know of.

Actually it's very common thing for battered woman syndrome, woman will in majority of cases side with their beater against those intervening, so if you beat up a guy who is beating his wife/girlfriend, there is a very good chance that the woman will testify against you, which means two testimonies against yours.

I know couple of local cases, so it's not just academic studies.
 

SoliFortissimi

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Actually it's very common thing for battered woman syndrome, woman will in majority of cases side with their beater against those intervening, so if you beat up a guy who is beating his wife/girlfriend, there is a very good chance that the woman will testify against you, which means two testimonies against yours.

I know couple of local cases, so it's not just academic studies.
In this case, we were talking about some thug attacking a random young woman.
guess you missed Nobel prize winning scientists and professors being chased out of employment by hack feminist journalists over singular mild jokes. I guess you missed a decade of increasingly ridiculous corporate lawsuits by feminists that have created a corporate culture that laments how zero males will take the risk to mentor females or even be in the same room as them alalone.
Name said academics. And those ridiculous lawsuits.
 

Wargamer08

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In this case, we were talking about some thug attacking a random young woman.

Name said academics. And those ridiculous lawsuits.
Of the top of my head, Tim Hunt was pushed to resign by his university after a literally noname journalist complained about his joke in a closed event. He had a Nobel prize for medicine.

Literally the first article when I Google it. It's from a hack feminist site from years ago. It's worse now. Literally #MeToo fucks over men, women most effected the article.

"In fact, 60 percent of male managers are uncomfortable participating in a common work activity with a woman, such as mentoring, working alone or socializing together—14 percentage points higher than one year ago—according to 2019 survey results from LeanIn.org. The survey also found that 1 in 6 men are reluctant to mentor a woman.

As a result, it's becoming harder for women to find high-powered male mentors and sponsors who can help them climb the career ladder."
 

SoliFortissimi

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Next you're going to say MeeToo never happened, right?
You mean the exposure of sex offenders within Hollywood?

Of the top of my head, Tim Hunt was pushed to resign by his university after a literally noname journalist complained about his joke in a closed event. He had a Nobel prize for medicine.
Now we're talking. Yes, what happened to Professor Hunt was deplorable in the extreme. Universities have bowed to student mobs for long enough.
 

Wargamer08

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You mean the exposure of sex offenders within Hollywood?


Now we're talking. Yes, what happened to Professor Hunt was deplorable in the extreme. Universities have bowed to student mobs for long enough.
Zero students were involved with his ousting. An unconnected journalist accused him of sexism and the faculty dumped him at light speed to avoid any of that heat. He's hardly the only professor or stem professional dumped like that either, just the one that I best remember because of how notable he was.
 

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
In this case, we were talking about some thug attacking a random young woman.

And how are people supposed to know that a guy beating up a woman is random thug and not her partner? If you see a violent act you call police and keep away unless it is about to escalate, like attacker wanting to kick the victim's head in. Unless you are sure no one is filming and you can escape before the cops arrive. Being good guy is not worth the legal consequences.
 

Wargamer08

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And how are people supposed to know that a guy beating up a woman is random thug and not her partner? If you see a violent act you call police and keep away unless it is about to escalate, like attacker wanting to kick the victim's head in. Unless you are sure no one is filming and you can escape before the cops arrive. Being good guy is not worth the legal consequences.
They arrested and charged that poor brave bastard in NYC last I heard.
 

ThatZenoGuy

Zealous Evolutionary Nano Organism
Comrade


Seven men rape a woman and threaten to kill a guy.
Cultural-retards insist it's a safer place than Europe and the West.
 

DarthOne

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Of the top of my head, Tim Hunt was pushed to resign by his university after a literally noname journalist complained about his joke in a closed event. He had a Nobel prize for medicine.

Literally the first article when I Google it. It's from a hack feminist site from years ago. It's worse now. Literally #MeToo fucks over men, women most effected the article.

"In fact, 60 percent of male managers are uncomfortable participating in a common work activity with a woman, such as mentoring, working alone or socializing together—14 percentage points higher than one year ago—according to 2019 survey results from LeanIn.org. The survey also found that 1 in 6 men are reluctant to mentor a woman.

As a result, it's becoming harder for women to find high-powered male mentors and sponsors who can help them climb the career ladder."

Good. If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that people, especially women, only learn when they suffer for their mistakes. Though with women, especially modern ones with their indoctrination and social media full of simps to cheer them on, getting them to learn that is still difficult.

Yet another reason why most social media should get the ax. Where as OnlyFools and its like will be exterminated without remorse.
 

SoliFortissimi

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Seven men rape a woman and threaten to kill a guy.
Cultural-retards insist it's a safer place than Europe and the West
India isn't quite as bad as MENA when it comes to its treatment of women, but only in shades. Any woman going to that Subcontinent should ditch any romantic assumptions and treat it no differently than going to Iraq or Egypt.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
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Seven men rape a woman and threaten to kill a guy.
Cultural-retards insist it's a safer place than Europe and the West.

To be honest, going to a country where women, even foreigners, are repeatedly sexually abused, assaulted, or heckled (at best) dressed like that (she's walking around in a fucking sports bra and panties, for fuck's sake) is like going down a dark alley with gold watches, a wallet full of cash, and gold teeth on full display.

The one at fault would be the mugger stealing your shit and knocking out your teeth, but you'd still be fucking stupid in going down that alley dressed like that and not expecting something to happen.
 

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