Dystopian Europe

Hitler and his fellows were proof of that oft quoted Nietzsche quote about how he who fights monsters should see to it that he doesn't become a monster himself.

To put it this way, Fascism is the political equivalent of an autoimmune disorder.
What does that make democracy? Full blown AIDS?
 
A healthy body, except the person is a hypochondriac who thinks he's dying if he so much as gets gassy.
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"Healthy"
 
I would argue that technically. The Nazis and the Soviets were both forms of Communism. They just had different approaches to it. And there are many, many reasons why Hitler was elected, @SoliFortissimi. Sexual degeneration doesn't even approach the top twenty in most of those lists.
Well,Nazizm practically was "communism for germans and maybe other aryan nations"
 
Nazism allowed for a lot of private owned stuff, even if the Nazis preferred big consolidated private companies they could control easier.
It was more like socialism for Germans and such, rather than full on communism.

Don't think you'll get through to ATP with facts. The man is, and I don't use this sort of term often, a raging Polack who wants Germany and Russia dismembered so that a Greater Poland can be established and rule over Central Europe. The man would have cheered and thrown a parade if the Morgenthau Plan had been enacted.



Makes the way that Germans and Germany was treated in the immediate aftermath of World War 2 make a lot more sense, doesn't it? In terms of the excesses and starvation of the average soldier and civilian suffered through.

Much more then the idea that the allies were simply just 'unprepared'. Also shows what sort of people FDR and Churchill were- not that I had much respect left for either after digging through history more. The Nazis were scum, but the allies weren't so clean either, even without the triple-damned Soviets.
 
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he was a socialist. but he was the kind that the estashement thought they could control.
No he wasn't that's retarded. National Socialism only has socialism in the name because it was vogue, they were literally militant anti-socialists.

Nazism allowed for a lot of private owned stuff, even if the Nazis preferred big consolidated private companies they could control easier.
It was more like socialism for Germans and such, rather than full on communism.
If Nazism counts as socialism so does every other ideology other than anarcho-capitalism. Having some aspects of a shared society is not what makes something socialism.
 
The Nazis were vigorously against Global Revolutionary Socialists, yet they went pretty damned hard on dragging corporations under the party's thumb, handouts for workers, and general autistic central planning. They were not hardline "abolish all property" Marxists, but their economic policies were more Socialist than what pretty much anyone not a Marxist was up to. Which fits with their ideological derivation from Fascism, which is itself the work of a man who was previously an avowed Marxist until the lack of a global worker's revolution mind-broke him into an ultranationalist revolution.
 

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