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  1. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    Thanks for that, that is illegal. Specifically this: Yeah, this is grounds enough to sue and makes this illegal. The Pinkertons did the stupid and stepped over the line, and since they were employed by WOTC, I think WOTC has direct liability here. I kinda doubt the person will sue though...
  2. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    I mean, this is kinda true for everything when it comes to the law system, as shitty as it is: There were always be a 3 tiered justice system, those that know how to exploit the rules, those that don't know, and those that are favored anyway (Hunter Biden). Again, not saying the Pinkertons...
  3. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    Did they? You gotta source for that? Cause when he talked about it on his youtube channel, he didn't say anything about them barging in, just that he knew who they were and was intimidated.
  4. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    In your own home? Yeah, shutting your door on them isn't hard. Or don't open your door. Having a ring camera, etc. Literally call the cops. All of these would have worked. The second you know they are working for WOTC, their physical threat level goes way down. Shit, he could have given the...
  5. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    Yeah, again, have fun writing a law that bans what happened here without fucking up the American legal system even more. This wasn't legally theft. The childish "I'll make a law" ignores how this problem actually happened. The Pinkertons knew what the law was, and were still able to intimidate...
  6. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    Those are scummy and completely legal tactics. It's not 'legitimate' in the moral sense. It's legal though. It sounds completely legal. The cops do the same exact thing all the time, and it's similarly scummy when they do it to the innocent, but it's still legal. Ultimately, the only solution...
  7. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    Only you don't know that they physically threatened him, I don't think. Unless you gotta source? Because I doubt they did except maybe by appearing. My bet is that it was intimidation through the legal system (do X or get sued), which is scummy but legal. And very, very hard to deal with...
  8. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    No. Scam/fraud is when X is promised but not delivered. The dude was (my best guess, no idea as to what actually happened) promised he wouldn't be sued (for something wrong that won't hold up like copyright, receiving stolen property, etc) if he handed over the cards. Then WOTC didn't sue him...
  9. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    Doesn't even have to be on the side of the road. Anywhere you have legal access. If it's on a car dealership lot, you can do it. You see your custom guitar in a pawn shop? You can walk out of the store with it. Note, this probably isn't the best way to handle this, as they will think you are...
  10. Abhorsen

    Wizards of the Coast Sends Pinkertons to YouTuber Over Products Copyright Infringement

    Self help isn't actually illegal, first. Say your car was stolen, then later the next day you see it parked in public. The VIN checks out, you know it's yours. You are legally allowed to hotwire that car and drive home with it. This applies to non cars too, just harder to prove ownership. But...
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