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  1. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    They don't want an outright war with Israel (or they'd just declare war). That's the level of deescalation they want. They want tensions at about this level, where Israel has to deal with terrorists, but Iran doesn't have real blowback. Look, it's quite obvious they wanted de-escalation: they...
  2. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    Sorta the reverse. They knew they could get away with it, or at least were pretty confident. It's not much of an escalation, and is less of a provocation that what Iran usually does. Basically, this is diplomacy, and both sides do it to de-escalate because both sides have vocal populations with...
  3. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    Ah. This seems to have been the correct posturing move by Iran, if things work out as I think and no or little actual damage is done (no Israeli deaths). It's far better than their previous attempts vs the US. Basically, they did something that a) very probably won't cause actual damage, b)...
  4. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    Pretty sure that already exists for the US. Or more accurately, we'd love for them to travel to the US, because we'd arrest them immediately. As for the settlers, this isn't all the settlers, just the ones who did violent things in the west bank. It's not really a strong move vs israel...
  5. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    I could see Saudi, but not the UN. Israel rightly doesn't trust them for shit. The Saudis being peacekeepers is actually a great idea IMO. It let's Saudi Arabia save face for an Israel deal and we know they don't like Hamas. I think it's more a logistics problem for Israel. Actually hitting...
  6. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    Yeah, but we know Egypt doesn't want Gaza. That's the optimal solution, but also never going to happen. Yes. That is a huge issue. But there's not a ton of options. I hope other options show up. This is just the long term solution I can see. I expect Israel to eventually get tired of holding...
  7. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    This is a very fair point. I think their only chance is with Israeli effective backing, though maybe not public backing. There's a fair chance that Fatah just ends up splitting, with the people sent to Gaza just ending up forming Hamas 2.0 though, and there's a fair chance that Fatah wants this...
  8. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    My argument: Fatah isn't a death cult, and Fatah hates Hamas, so putting them in charge of Gaza afterwards could stop Hamad from returning to power there. Your evidence: there's a group in the West Bank that's really mad that Fatah isn't helping out Hamas, and so tried to kill their leader...
  9. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    And how does this disprove my point? First, you haven't shown that the Sons are Fatah, or even in Fatah. They just seem to be a small subgroup of Fatah at worst, though they could be from any police unit if they are telling the truth, and IDK that all West Bank cops are Fatah, there could be...
  10. Abhorsen

    Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

    ... Thanks for citing evidence that proves my point? Fatah, as in the actual leadership of it, is willing to risk assassination rather than actually help Hamas out. EDIT: removed some stuff, as it was unnecessarily confrontational.
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