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the thing is people will abandon their principles the moment it profits them the biggest majority of people say, "Rules for thee not for me." Why take responsibility for your own actions when you can place that responsibility of the group. You can take credit for the work other people did, while...

yeah I'm with Shadow, I think I'd rather make a deal with a street gang or militia before going back to Feudalism. At least a gang does not have a monopoly on violence.

I think the roman's specialized in mainly hydrokinetic power, that kind of thing though it is hard to know how advanced they were because much of the knowledge was/is lost.

my controversial take: If European powers and those of European descent would spend half as much time building up their military and economy as they do worshiping their ancestors and lamenting times gone by, they might actually be relevant again.

that's my point. whether the cartel is the "Legit" government or not it's no secret that they are essentially the real government.

No they don't build this stuff they just bribe people to do it for them.

Would it not be asier to say that the guy with the biggest gun & kill count wins? that seems to be what this is boiling down to.

if humans are evil then giving anyone the monopoly of force isin't a good idea. being threatened by the wrath of God only works for so long until they realize that the magic lightning bolt is either A.) never coming or B.) not coming until the very end when everyone is dead and in the same boat...

reverse controversial take Civility is typically determined by whether there is a protected class or not and if they have the monoploly of force. Order is the protected class being able to look down on everyone from their ivory tower, chaos is whenever they realize they bleed just like the rest...

she said said take your most deeply held beliefs and reverse one and this is one of the most common forms of it.

so your a holocaust denier?

The american revolution was actually a British civil war that england just happened to lose. It was never about the peon.