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A History Of The Sietch/SB PM Ban Compilation and Discussion thread.

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In fact I have been asked to return to SB to take up a position again and i said no because of said politics, its choking the place and honestly I can't say I'd be shocked if it went the way of the dodo one day. Will I ever go back? No not with the way the place is, to be honest I don't miss it and I don't care for most of the people there anymore.
That day's probably going to happen sooner than you'd think: they're already starting to turn on each other over conflicting aspects of ideology. They are entering a degrading purity spiral.
 

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That day's probably going to happen sooner than you'd think: they're already starting to turn on each other over conflicting aspects of ideology. They are entering a degrading purity spiral.
This isnt a thread for complaining about other forums or celebrating their downfall we have that in NSFW Politics so please keep discussing about how SB is going to a minimum unless its about the PM or your story of how you got here.
 

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This isnt a thread for complaining about other forums or celebrating their downfall we have that in NSFW Politics so please keep discussing about how SB is going to a minimum unless its about the PM or your story of how you got here.
Not complaining nor celebrating; just making an (amused) observation as a reply to his post/thoughts.
 

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I came here because I wanted to read Welcome to the Jungle, as did a few other places.

But I really like how I can put -what I think is pretty milquetoast- opinions in the politics section without fearing the banhammer. For the most part y'all seem pretty steady. So it works out for me.

Dude, we're just a bunch of geeks and what not just trying to chill online with a good forum community. Its what SB used to be. Glad you like it.
 

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God... has it really been 2 years already? How time flies. I was searching for various TDI fanfics, and one led here. Aside from a few... choice... individuals, this forum overall seems... really chill. Not like SB or SV where it's that "How do you do, fellow kids?" meme, where all the friendliness and 'cameraderie' feels really forced, and unnatural. From what little time I've actually spent here, people actually feel honest.

Edit: Okay, before anyone misunderstands me, I don't mean "forced" like how I might've insinuated, I mean in the sense that you'd need to be 'in' to really get close to them, if you know what I mean?
 
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God... has it really been 2 years already? How time flies. I was searching for various TDI fanfics, and one led here. Aside from a few... choice... individuals, this forum overall seems... really chill. Not like SB or SV where it's that "How do you do, fellow kids?" meme, where all the friendliness and 'cameraderie' feels really forced, and unnatural. From what little time I've actually spent here, people actually feel honest.

Edit: Okay, before anyone misunderstands me, I don't mean "forced" like how I might've insinuated, I mean in the sense that you'd need to be 'in' to really get close to them, if you know what I mean?

This is how SB used to be. How it should have remained.
 

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You know, I didn't see this Thread. I think I'll add my story.

I've been a lurker and then member of SB for more than 20 years. Much of that time, it was just a geeky hangout, with fanfic being the main part. Political elements happened, in and out of stories, but it generally wasn't that big a deal.


Over time, as others have pointed out, things got more pushy. The things that really killed me, the final straw was when "Trap" became a slur, because I've run into people online who called themselves traps, and weren't shy about it. I though they were screwed in the head, but if they wanted to call themselves that, I couldn't see the problem.

I was infracted over that one. It was the last straw for me. Before that, there was a Thread talking about Trump, a more reasonable Lefty wanted to know why people could possibly like him, and while I wasn't infracted there, I did find that it was pretty much just me being reasonable, while more, and more, and more people tried to smash me down as I put up moderate, reserched views about why Trump could be seen as better than Hillary. I gave up, after a while. There was more, stories I liked being booted of the site, some coming here, some not. There were people getting banned over pretty close to nothing. There were Mod Vs Mod arguments, and it all pissed me off, so now I pretty much only go there for fanfic. I wasn't particualy happy with it being sold and monetised, but it'll slowly die, so, that's just how it goes.



Over all, It just changed from a relaxed site, where you could chat in peace, to something much more restrictive, and I gave up on it as a result.
 

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You know, I didn't see this Thread. I think I'll add my story.

I've been a lurker and then member of SB for more than 20 years. Much of that time, it was just a geeky hangout, with fanfic being the main part. Political elements happened, in and out of stories, but it generally wasn't that big a deal.


Over time, as others have pointed out, things got more pushy. The things that really killed me, the final straw was when "Trap" became a slur, because I've run into people online who called themselves traps, and weren't shy about it. I though they were screwed in the head, but if they wanted to call themselves that, I couldn't see the problem.

I was infracted over that one. It was the last straw for me. Before that, there was a Thread talking about Trump, a more reasonable Lefty wanted to know why people could possibly like him, and while I wasn't infracted there, I did find that it was pretty much just me being reasonable, while more, and more, and more people tried to smash me down as I put up moderate, reserched views about why Trump could be seen as better than Hillary. I gave up, after a while. There was more, stories I liked being booted of the site, some coming here, some not. There were people getting banned over pretty close to nothing. There were Mod Vs Mod arguments, and it all pissed me off, so now I pretty much only go there for fanfic. I wasn't particualy happy with it being sold and monetised, but it'll slowly die, so, that's just how it goes.



Over all, It just changed from a relaxed site, where you could chat in peace, to something much more restrictive, and I gave up on it as a result.
SB became more and more radicalized as each year passed this decade.

Right now, the site has an owner that is trying to make a quick buck from the users' data (although I laughed my arse off when the former owner basically said "welp, I got paid, later suckers!" to the user-base), and the staff are radical Leftists at best or narcissists that wormed their way and staged a mini-coup in at worst.

I only joined SB in 2012, and I was shit-canned in a Christmas purge about three years back. The culture on the site radically changed in just those few years I was on the site.

If I'd have encountered SB a few years later, I'd have taken one look at the toxic culture on the board and looked elsewhere.
 

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We try very hard to be laid back and as even-handed as possible. Frankly, we're too lazy to try and enforce any sort of political conformity, we aren't interested in creating a utopia, persecuting people for their opinions sounds too much like work for our tastes, and besides, it's more fun to laugh at people who are wrong.

You have to try VERY hard to get banned here. In fact, I don't think there has been a single permaban in all of 2022, even as the Ukraine war has raged both on the battlefield and here on the site.
 

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We try very hard to be laid back and as even-handed as possible. Frankly, we're too lazy to try and enforce any sort of political conformity, we aren't interested in creating a utopia, persecuting people for their opinions sounds too much like work for our tastes, and besides, it's more fun to laugh at people who are wrong.

You have to try VERY hard to get banned here. In fact, I don't think there has been a single permaban in all of 2022, even as the Ukraine war has raged both on the battlefield and here on the site.
And yet we are supposed to be the site filled to the brim with "alt-right Nazis" that, when we were still all on SB, had half of the people on SB in outright hysteria. smh :ROFLMAO:
 

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Joined SB in 2001-02ish when it was still libertarian leaning. Watched it get worse and worse starting with Obama election. Then the Great Schism happened, and things improved for while. Got banned in 2017 for being too spicy (although the original official reason I was given was for spamming a certain forum I had never been on). The place is perfect example of why spaces in this sphere that want to stay open and free have to diligently root out intersectionalists.

Before it was taken over by insane narcissists, SB really was a wild and woolly place with broad range of views.
 

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Joined SB in 2001-02ish when it was still libertarian leaning. Watched it get worse and worse starting with Obama election. Then the Great Schism happened, and things improved for while. Got banned in 2017 for being too spicy (although the original official reason I was given was for spamming a certain forum I had never been on). The place is perfect example of why spaces in this sphere that want to stay open and free have to diligently root out intersectionalists.

Before it was taken over by insane narcissists, SB really was a wild and woolly place with broad range of views.
And above all, it was actually FUN and without stupid political correctness or any silly taboos like speech policing!

Then, around the time when GamerGate happened they started turning into a hugbox and mostly everyone was too cowardly to do something about it.

Some people kept feeding the crocodile, thinking that it would spare them, well Crock Hungry!

 

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Tumblr seems to be the root of where all of the sanctimonious SJW crap originated from and infested sites like SB, I can only assume at this point its nothing more than a bunch of losers with meaningless lives on a power trip who ban people and police speech in a pathetic attempt to give their empty lives some meaning.
 

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Tumblr seems to be the root of where all of the sanctimonious SJW crap originated from and infested sites like SB, I can only assume at this point its nothing more than a bunch of losers with meaningless lives on a power trip who ban people and police speech in a pathetic attempt to give their empty lives some meaning.
Yeah, and they assume that their little "Respect Muh Aurhoreteh..." Tantrum works on others because they think that those others are just as pathetic a bunch of losers as they are.

Subway sandwich makers and worthless * studies degrees holders with porn and masturbation addiction on power trip fooling themselves they are actually worth more than the air, water and food they consume. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yeah, and they assume that their little "Respect Muh Aurhoreteh..." Tantrum works on others because they think that those others are just as pathetic a bunch of losers as they are.

Subway sandwich makers and worthless * studies degrees holders with porn and masturbation addiction on power trip fooling themselves they are actually worth more than the air, water and food they consume. :ROFLMAO:
Now now, don't diss someone because they're a fast food worker; a job is a job, and it's an honest living. There's nothing wrong with working at Subway, or McDonald's, et cetera. Bills have to be paid and people need to live.

However, if you're an awful person who just happens to be a fast food worker and power trips online because of how... inadequate your life is going, that's different. And that is what applies here.

Also, don't tell me: the aforementioned degree is gender studies or some useless shit like that, right?
 

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I got banned by Mods literally making up crap about me and gaslighting, literally got infracted by something else a user did and the mod said wOuLD yOu lIkE tO aPpEaL?

Their appeal process doesn't even work, you just get a mod that goes no lol without any actual justification behind it (They immediately lock it even if it's factually incorrect)

And even the Admins threatened me after I said I would publicly tell social media about the advisors they had which were harassing me and they did nothing about it when I complained.
 
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