Versus Match Aliens invade our Earth but they miscalculated.

Sailor.X

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Then their digging machines are still smaller then one foot.And their sealed bukers are no bigger then average ant nests.
They have place to hide and cook their deadly coctail.
They have Star Wars Tech not Star Trek Tech. They do have the limitations that a faction in Star Wars would have. Such as no Cloaking Tech, No Transporters or Replicators To get what they want they will have to go mining for it. Sure they can easily do it in Outer Space. But here on Earth they have to go out place where those materials are found. Meaning out in the open.
 

Sailor.X

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But they still have orbital supremacy they can use planetary bombardment on us.
Actually they can't. A little thing called Atmospheric friction nerfs all of their orbital attacks. Their weapons don't pack enough of a punch. And they can't haul large asteroids into orbit either.
 

aguy1013

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Aliens will win the war,but it will take decades to centuries cause their size is a major hindrance.
How they can do it simple biological warfare we dropoff dead cells everyday they just need to get enough samples to create a bio-weapon that cans press fast and poof we're dead,but base on the fact they're starwars base not startrek base I doubt it will come within decades
 

Bear Ribs

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Building a bioweapon presumes the aliens can retain enough technology to pull it off. Any ship bigger than a breadbox is probably ortillery'd to death. The survivors are going to be shattered wrecks hiding in holes they've dug and desperately hoping no ants, snakes, shrews, cats, or a myriad of other monsters shows up and eats them. Unless they're naturally subterranean by habit, any prefab shelters they might have handy and going to get stomped flat the moment a human sees them so mostly useless.

Those that survive past the first week aren't going to be thinking about how to build a bioweapon from skin flakes. They're going to be thinking about how to get this empty can they found back to base so they can make a door out of it and keep that crow that killed three people last week from getting anymore. They're pretty much post-apocalyptic survivors, except that there are zero existing malls/labs/houses to use, and instead of ordinary zombies there are billions of highly intelligent, high-technology kaijuu who are actively trying to destroy them. Building infrastructure is going to be incredibly hard for them.
 

BlackDragon98

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Building a bioweapon presumes the aliens can retain enough technology to pull it off. Any ship bigger than a breadbox is probably ortillery'd to death. The survivors are going to be shattered wrecks hiding in holes they've dug and desperately hoping no ants, snakes, shrews, cats, or a myriad of other monsters shows up and eats them. Unless they're naturally subterranean by habit, any prefab shelters they might have handy and going to get stomped flat the moment a human sees them so mostly useless.

Those that survive past the first week aren't going to be thinking about how to build a bioweapon from skin flakes. They're going to be thinking about how to get this empty can they found back to base so they can make a door out of it and keep that crow that killed three people last week from getting anymore. They're pretty much post-apocalyptic survivors, except that there are zero existing malls/labs/houses to use, and instead of ordinary zombies there are billions of highly intelligent, high-technology kaijuu who are actively trying to destroy them. Building infrastructure is going to be incredibly hard for them.
Once we capture a few of them alive and do some test, we can counter with our own bioweapons.
Since they're so small it won't take much to eradicate them.
 

ATP

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Actually they can't. A little thing called Atmospheric friction nerfs all of their orbital attacks. Their weapons don't pack enough of a punch. And they can't haul large asteroids into orbit either.

they have truck-sized ships,right? then they could use truck-sized meteorites.Few of them would be Enough to wipe out city.
 

Arlos

Sad Monarchist
Our planet is basically the mother of all deathworld for them, their army’s and fleet will get stomped, and the survivor will probably have a terrible life, even in the dark corner we humans don’t usually look at, you can find all kind of nasty grubbies that would be fatal to them.
Chief amongst them are Rats, damned things that they are.
 

Bear Ribs

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The real fun's going to start when the first aliens show up waving a white postage stamp wanting to become expatriates and join with humanity, in exchange for a nice safe habitrail free of rats, ants, and tarantulas. Not only do said aliens have tremendous amounts of scientific knowledge to share, just by virtue of their size they're going to be adept at all sorts of technical tasks we use tiny tools for now, but once those tools are scaled down imagine how well they'll work.

In twenty years somebody on their home world's going to have a very bad "That's no moon..." moment.
 

BlackDragon98

Freikorps Kommandant
Banned - Politics
The real fun's going to start when the first aliens show up waving a white postage stamp wanting to become expatriates and join with humanity, in exchange for a nice safe habitrail free of rats, ants, and tarantulas. Not only do said aliens have tremendous amounts of scientific knowledge to share, just by virtue of their size they're going to be adept at all sorts of technical tasks we use tiny tools for now, but once those tools are scaled down imagine how well they'll work.

In twenty years somebody on their home world's going to have a very bad "That's no moon..." moment.
I started laughing my ass off on the "white postage stamp" part.
 

ATP

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Those won't wipe out a city. We've seen what meteoroids that size do.


They vaporize 40 kilometers above the surface and a handful of tiny fragments get found and collected by scientists later.

Then they take 100 ships and take something 200 meter big.They have time,we have no technology to attack them in void.
Or,they use their biotechnology to made some super bacteria whcih wipe out 90% of us.Even better for them - cheaper and our planets would be intact.
 

Bear Ribs

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They have time,we have no technology to attack them in void.
See, that is the mistaken assumption right there. They don't have time. We can reach space but since it doesn't pay very well, we don't use that ability much. Remember the previous space race? That was purely for bragging rights. But if we know hostile aliens are in space and killing them resolves an existential threat? Dragons deploying armed satellites bigger and more heavily armed than their ships are going to be planned within hours and launched within weeks. Steely Eyed Missile Men with fifty cups of coffee are going to start working up designs for surface-to-space missiles immediately. The amount of budget redirected to stopping the aliens would be utterly staggering as every nation on Earth shifts to total war footing and all their excess is channeled straight into defending earth.

We'd go from a cottage industry hand-making small runabouts to building Liberty Ships.
 

BlackDragon98

Freikorps Kommandant
Banned - Politics
See, that is the mistaken assumption right there. They don't have time. We can reach space but since it doesn't pay very well, we don't use that ability much. Remember the previous space race? That was purely for bragging rights. But if we know hostile aliens are in space and killing them resolves an existential threat? Dragons deploying armed satellites bigger and more heavily armed than their ships are going to be planned within hours and launched within weeks. Steely Eyed Missile Men with fifty cups of coffee are going to start working up designs for surface-to-space missiles immediately. The amount of budget redirected to stopping the aliens would be utterly staggering as every nation on Earth shifts to total war footing and all their excess is channeled straight into defending earth.

We'd go from a cottage industry hand-making small runabouts to building Liberty Ships.
A beneficial side effect would be that humanity would effectively unite in their efforts.
 

ATP

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A beneficial side effect would be that humanity would effectively unite in their efforts.

Unless they manage to get us with some super-Ebola first,since using meteorites would not work.
P.S it would be funny,if they made WH-40 like titans big as human and strong as one,too.And later be shocked when their elite titan units was wiped out by some local militia.
 

Bear Ribs

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Unless they manage to get us with some super-Ebola first,since using meteorites would not work.
P.S it would be funny,if they made WH-40 like titans big as human and strong as one,too.And later be shocked when their elite titan units was wiped out by some local militia.
The issue with biological warfare is that both we and the aliens are going to have to basically rediscover the entire field of biology from first principles before we can even comprehend each other.

Their brains are going to have to operate on some system entirely different from ours, you simply can't make a structure of neurons the size of a pinhead and get enough complexity for a human-level intelligence. So whatever they're running on isn't made of carbon-based cells.

Meanwhile they've never encountered anything as large as humans, indicating that whatever weird biology the rest of the universe operates on, it apparently does not allow for anything as big as a human, much less a dinosaur or whale. Now bigger isn't always a biological advantage but generally for at least the apex predators, large is an advantage so their biology must somehow quit working if their atoms combine into a structure the size of a human.

Thus fundamentally we're both going to have no idea how the other's biology works. They're probably not even made of anything resembling cells and won't have any idea how to engineer a cell or attack cells. Meanwhile we'll have no idea how to engineer a disease that isn't either a cell or infiltrates cells so our best biotech will do nothing.

Squashing, however, will still work unless they're made of some exotic matter instead of baryons.
 

ATP

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The issue with biological warfare is that both we and the aliens are going to have to basically rediscover the entire field of biology from first principles before we can even comprehend each other.

Their brains are going to have to operate on some system entirely different from ours, you simply can't make a structure of neurons the size of a pinhead and get enough complexity for a human-level intelligence. So whatever they're running on isn't made of carbon-based cells.

Meanwhile they've never encountered anything as large as humans, indicating that whatever weird biology the rest of the universe operates on, it apparently does not allow for anything as big as a human, much less a dinosaur or whale. Now bigger isn't always a biological advantage but generally for at least the apex predators, large is an advantage so their biology must somehow quit working if their atoms combine into a structure the size of a human.

Thus fundamentally we're both going to have no idea how the other's biology works. They're probably not even made of anything resembling cells and won't have any idea how to engineer a cell or attack cells. Meanwhile we'll have no idea how to engineer a disease that isn't either a cell or infiltrates cells so our best biotech will do nothing.

Squashing, however, will still work unless they're made of some exotic matter instead of baryons.

different then carbon based cells mean,that they would be fine if they wipe out entire ecosystem,as long as we die,too.
Problem is - did they manage to create such bioweapon before we squash them.
 

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