Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

[Free-Stater 101]

Guy's do me a favor...look at the thread title topic...

...Now look at what your discussing...

...Now look at how long this discussion has been ongoing...

Now please do the math of what I am trying to say and guess what I want and the ramifications of what will happen should it not happen.

Thank You -Free Stater

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Looking at the shape of history, I'm actually kinda glad the US didn't win the War of 1812. I think it's a good thing b/c we weren't, as a country, emboldened to go conquering more territory. I don't count the native lands in that b/c they weren't adversaries that really challenged us strategically.

EDIT: @Free-Stater 101 i'll stop here.

 

[Husky_Khan]

New Russian Military Vehicles Revealed. One of them is a MTLB with twin MLRS Systems taken from a Zubr LCAC of the Russian Navy!



Russian Tire Saga Continues.



Another invader strikes at a Ukrainian BMP swimming across a waterway.

 

[Spartan303]

Another invader strikes at a Ukrainian BMP swimming across a waterway.

Thats some good eatin tonight boys!

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Guy's do me a favor...look at the thread title topic...

...Now look at what your discussing...

...Now look at how long this discussion has been ongoing...

Now please do the math of what I am trying to say and guess what I want and the ramifications of what will happen should it not happen.

Thank You -Free Stater

Okay so this should be on topic then right?

 

[Aldarion]

War is a military and political affair as the military are the ones that make the politicians able to make thier ideas and arguments.
A war can be one solely by the military, it can not be solely one by tbe politicians

No, war can never be won solely by military, because you win a war by achieving political objectives through usage of military power.

To use Ukraine as example - had Russian political leadership decided to merely occupy Crimea and perhaps parts of Donbass, they will have basically won the war long time ago. But because their politicians decided to try and install a puppet regime in Ukraine, Russia has placed itself in a situation where military victory is extremely unlikely.

If you try to decouple warfare and politics, you will lose because your army will be left running around like a headless voodoo chicken, unable to decide what and how to do.

 

[Captain X]

Zach has, repeatedly and with great gusto.

Mention things like Bataan, Little Bighorn, or well, the whole of the War of 1812, and his motard blinders and kneejerk need to defend the honor of the US Army from any criticism engages.

I mean, I don't consider the Little Bighorn to have been a loss.

 

[Sailor.X]

I mean, I don't consider the Little Bighorn to have been a loss.

I see what you did there.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

I mean, I don't consider the Little Bighorn to have been a loss.

Impromptu haircuts for A L L

 

[Husky_Khan]

The village of Blahodatne has reportedly been liberated!



One of them anyways... Probably... Maybe...

 

[strunkenwhite]

That's worse than Springfield! What does Blahodatne mean, anyway?

 

[Buba]

That's worse than Springfield! What does Blahodatne mean, anyway?

At first glance - "sheetmetalgiven".
Hmm - at second glance, the "h" would be "g" in other Slavic languages, so "generouslygiven"? "Nobelygiven"?

 

[strunkenwhite]

At first glance - "sheetmetalgiven".
Hmm - at second glance, the "h" would be "g" in other Slavic languages, so "generouslygiven"? "Nobelygiven"?

In the post-Soviet era apparently a lot of towns that got renamed to Soviet things got renamed to this. Not sure why they didn't revert to their older names but that's their business.

Wikipedia suggests that the Russian equivalent is Blagodatnoye (Russian: Благодатное)

 

[Buba]

In the post-Soviet era apparently a lot of towns that got renamed to Soviet things got renamed to this. Not sure why they didn't revert to their older names but that's their business.

The meaning is beyond my meagre knowledge
At least one Błahodatne, on the Polish border, did not have a nice pre-Soviet name as it dated to the 1950s.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

Oops

its almost as if Russians had nothing to gain if they destroyed their own dam

 

[Zachowon]

Preventing a Ukrainian offensive

 

[Bacle]

its almost as if Russians had nothing to gain if they destroyed their own dam

Preventing a Ukrainian offensive

Not just preventing an offensive below the dam, but utterly fucking the agricultural capabilities of all of southern Ukraine, including Crimea, for at least a decade due to cutting off water from the canals that came out of that lake, and endangering the long-term ability of at least one nuke plant to operate at any real capacity.

This was a scorched earth tactic meant to ensure that even when Russian forces are push out of Ukraine, the damage done to the nation will leave Ukraine crippled and reliant on possibly 'fickle' foreign aid for decades to come in order to rebuild.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Not just preventing an offensive below the dam, but utterly fucking the agricultural capabilities of all of southern Ukraine, including Crimea, for at least a decade due to cutting off water from the canals that came out of that lake, and endangering the long-term ability of at least one nuke plant to operate at any real capacity.

This was a scorched earth tactic meant to ensure that even when Russian forces are push out of Ukraine, the damage done to the nation will leave Ukraine crippled and reliant on possibly 'fickle' foreign aid for decades to come in order to rebuild.

Russia is such a steaming pile of shit, isn’t it? All its movements now seem to be motivated by spite instead of victory.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

Not just preventing an offensive below the dam, but utterly fucking the agricultural capabilities of all of southern Ukraine, including Crimea, for at least a decade due to cutting off water from the canals that came out of that lake, and endangering the long-term ability of at least one nuke plant to operate at any real capacity.

This was a scorched earth tactic meant to ensure that even when Russian forces are push out of Ukraine, the damage done to the nation will leave Ukraine crippled and reliant on possibly 'fickle' foreign aid for decades to come in order to rebuild.

Ah yes, the neoliberal concept that anyone who opposes them is either irrational, stupid or evil.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

An Unwinnable War

Washington needs an endgame in Ukraine.

www.foreignaffairs.com

Its important to understand that neocons and neoliberals dont negotiate from a position of strength. If they have the upper hand they only accept unconditional surrender. The calls for freezing the conflict are a sign they know that they know thier position is weakening.