You keep saying this to hide the fact you're goalpost shifting from your claim they don't have advanced capabilities
He thinks an SRBM fired sideways is an "advanced capability." Phenomenal.
Except for the fact I've already linked it in others
tl;dr
So, please do explain to us how the Soviets had to wait to develop long enough strike ranges given you've already conceded they had that capability for over a decade by the time of the Walker Spy Ring in the 1980s?
history scorner read goooooooooooood:
If you're conceding they didn't pull back their first gen submarines, then that proves exactly the original point I made.
If they pulled those back they'd literally be useless by being out of range,
and give away the fact that a spy ring existed to tip them off to being tailed by US attack boats.
That object permanence joke I made last time may have been overly optimistic.
Pretty clearly, you consider the existence of Soviet bastion areas a sign of weakness, which was the point I was making by pointing by bringing up the U.S. is now doing it
Bastions to protect boats near home shores that are supposed to hide on their own in the open ocean vs. area-denial/sea control enabled by forward bases for offensive purposes in hostile waters:
Lets see if you can spot the difference between these concepts.
Specifically, though, if you had bothered to read the text on your screen, you would realize the 2006 and 2015 incidents had political connotations on the part of the Chinese; they were demonstrating they could do so as a threat in response to U.S. actions elsewhere.
They were demonstrating that they could send a submarine to the AO of a US Carrier Battle Group that had been publicly announced weeks ahead of time and not get sunk by a navy that isn't actively at war with them? Wow. Much strategy. So communist. Very strong.
So, first, thanks for admitting you were wrong about the local Admiral part.
Is English your second language, by any chance?
So, Jeffery Lewis is now a journalist?
Worse. He's one of the most egregious, puffed-up circlejerking "dEfeNSe ExpErtS" among the thing-tank academics and wrote
a huge self-flagellating jerk-off fanfiction about how Orange Man was Very Bad. The fact that he's a frequent go-to source for journalists is the big thick underline under his designated fuckface status. And naturally, you just beeline straight for him.
This is a categorically different system, because a fractional orbit is different than suborbital. A fractional orbit means it can stay on orbit as long as the user determines and then it de-orbits it as a part of the flight path.”
It's a satellite with a warhead on it.
Wow. Oh, and it can also steer during re-entry. Like the Apollo command module or the American XB-37 drone shuttle. Which, by the way, has a payload of about 500 pounds. The B-61 nuclear bomb, complete, has a total weight of, at most, 716 pounds - shell, fins, etc. included. If you take out the physics package (the part that actually goes boom) it'd fit into an XB-37 without a problem - especially if you had no requirement for the drone to actually land intact. Bam. Fractional Orbital Bombardment with a glide vehicle that can maneuver at hypersonic speeds.
I continue to be amazed at just how easily I live in your head rent free and the amount of seething I induce is simply beautiful. Please, do continue to have your very obvious mental breakdown, because I find it absolutely hilarious.
If you think flaming someone is a "mental breakdown" you need to stop circumventing the parental access controls on your mom's iPad and get to bed, kiddo.
So, given I'm not Russian with access to a Tornado, how exactly am I supposed to do that? Matter of fact, prove to me HIMARs isn't shit.
The last confirmed deployment of Tornado munitions by Russia I saw was back in late March. Meanwhile, HIMARs be like
You know what makes HIMARs good and Tornado-S a pile of shit?
HIMARs rockets actually exist in stockpile numbers greater than the single digits!
Is that why all of the Russian cruise missiles, such as Kaliber, significantly outrange it?
Why do arrows arc but bullets don't? Why do dogs bark and never meow? Why do chocolate bars taste sweet but dogshit doesn't? Why is a ballistic missile different than a cruise missile?
None of which are ground based.
It's why he has to, for example, focus in on the fact that in a list of six different missiles systems, I got one wrong
Two, actually. Note that Russia
bitched and moaned about this capability for years.
Because I'm not wrong and I simply know more on the subject than all of my opponents
Okay. Tell me how you get a vehicle or missile of any sort into orbit, and how those requirements differ from what you need to get a missile/ICBM into a sub-orbital trajectory. Regale us with your keen wit and in-depth subject matter expertise. Grace us with your wisdom, sensei, for this grasshopper does not understand!
Quite interesting that back in 2015 the GOP were more hawkish on Russia and Ukraine than the Democrats were:
Since I feel this is important to re-iterate:
TRUMP SOLD UKRAINE THE JAVELIN MISSILE THAT OBAMA REFUSED TO. Also
this recent bombshell article from NBC News:
From Zelenskyy’s perspective — as well as that of some Eastern European governments and U.S. lawmakers from both parties — there has been repeated frustration that the Biden White House moves too slowly on weapons requests, initially hesitating to approve certain capabilities Ukraine requested most urgently, only to relent weeks or months later under pressure, according to two sources familiar with the Ukraine government’s view, congressional aides and two European officials....
Just like when
they dithered for months on sending a few fucking multi-purpose helicopters because they could be used to strike the soil of a ~great power~ oh nooooo. Democrats have always been a bunch of craven little shitbags when it comes to Russia and I personally blame them in large part for this entire fucking war. Had they not been such a pack of spineless little shit-heel wimps sneering at their political opponents for daring to say Russia is the bad guy maybe Putin wouldn't have had the balls to pull this shit. Tens of thousands of dead civilians and soldiers. Tens of
thousands. Because they were afraid to use
rude language or do anything too
gauche. 
