This discussion shifted from Jews backing Ukraine to Banderite Nazis who'd kill them without thinking or flinching pretty quick.
Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)
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TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
Good for you.
I would care if you actually had an argument to go against Russia beyond what you mentioned. You don't.
No, you are the one trying to imply that to me.
Oh very well. I can imagine your new allies ain't going to do another Rzeź Wołyńska right?
Right?
He ain't no saint but compared to NATO and Allies Assad is a puppy.
Russia simps: Victim mentality, Russia is good boy only fighting nazis, no threat to you, you have no argument to go against them!
Russian politicians:
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Medvedev floats idea of pushing back Poland's borders
Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said on Friday that the only way for Moscow to ensure a lasting peace with Ukraine was to push back the borders of hostile states as far as possible, even if that meant the frontiers of NATO member Poland.
www.reuters.com
Am i?
We don't have to imagine, they don't have the opportunity even if they wanted to.
We also don't have to imagine that if Russia puts us in their sphere of influence, our country will suck to live in.
It was there in living memory, and all the other countries who are there suck to live in.
Hence, it is in our interest that Russia is contained or destroyed.
Then why no one wants to live under his rule, while millions are trying to live in NATO even if illegally?
And again, what do you care about the reign of some middle eastern dictator and Turks usurping it? Turks can take over his whole satrapy for all i care.
I can't recall NATO having committed a campaign of terror and repression that where the arrest, torture and murder of hundreds of thousands IN ADDITION TO the open conflict and the rise of ISIL actual child sex slavers as an acceptable alternative to a lot of Syrians anytime recently.
That he 'won' (in that he gets to keep his rump Syrian state) the civil war just means he won... it won't change the fact his regime is as bloody or even bloodier than Saddam's... hell I'm sure he and/or a lot of his fellows are proud of that fact.
Oh No worries. It was probably just a flashbang or stun grenade. Those Mothers are just too sensitive.
Meanwhile in Russian Liberated Luhansk.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I hope he spends every dime he has on this.
Better than getting more anarchist, communist, DAs elected in my country.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
And? Soros is hardly the only source of money.
If you are offered money.
Take it.
You can make the ones who gave it Haye you later after you win
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
Yet.Russia simps: Victim mentality, Russia is good boy only fighting nazis, no threat to you, you have no argument to go against them!
Russian politicians:
Medvedev floats idea of pushing back Poland's borders
Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said on Friday that the only way for Moscow to ensure a lasting peace with Ukraine was to push back the borders of hostile states as far as possible, even if that meant the frontiers of NATO member Poland.
Am i?
We don't have to imagine, they don't have the opportunity even if they wanted to.
If it happens, it is because your own allies will throw Poland down the bus. Happened twice, can easily happen thrice. Don't worry, both Washington, Berlin and your NATO neighbors will give you away as the Judas Iscariot they are, and probably not for something valuable.
If you wish for a third world war sure.
So ok by your own reasoning, everywhere from Minsk to the Rhine can be an oblast of Russia.
You conveniently forget what happened in Abu Ghraib and the fact there is an ISIL in the first place was because Washington fucked so bad reconstruction. If the latter was the actual intention...
Not to mention that you guys collaborated with Syria as well CIA rendition: more than a quarter of countries 'offered covert support' and the same thing was done during the last 10 years was done with approval of the US.
It still pales in comparison to what your governments did with the excuse of the war on terror...or the war on drugs...or what side you supported during the Central American crisis...
Exactly. If push comes to shove, we can handle a fight with Ukraine better than a fight with Russia. Better hypothetical Banderites in unspecified far future than typical Russian imperialists in action now.
And, that's an argument for what exactly? Certainly not to jump out at the potential risk and make it a certainty by going out of our way to simp our way into it like some absolute retards, lol.
It is a reason to arm ourselves just in case, and to do what we can to have Russia as weakened as possible before our allies decide they have something more important to deal with.
Slave mentality. "If Russia can't have victories in its imperial resurgence, that will start WW3 and destroy the world!"
Next on the line: "Let CCP conquer all it wants or WW3!"
If we think like this, eventually someone is guaranteed to conquer us and everyone else.
Fuck this shit, if only the other guys were just half as worried about starting WW3 when taking any bold international actions as our resident worriers are, we wouldn't have to worry about wars. Imagine Putin, 2 years ago, rebuking all his ultranationalists and cronies who want a piece of Ukraine that no, they can't make any moves on Ukraine, because that will make NATO feel insecure and cause a risk of WW3.
Fine, fuck off from NATO and EU, see how well it works for ya.
The worst of Abu Gharib is called "exceptionally boring tuesday" in the prisons of every middle eastern shithole you have ever wanted me to care about West or Israel interfering with, and the Syria you just implied we should worry about Turks encroaching on in particular.
Also there is great irony in complaining about USA imprisoning "interesting" people and in the very same sentence complaining about the consequences of USA not imprisoning or disappearing a lot more of them for lesser reasons.
1.Sight,Russia was murdered by soviets.And soviet genocides occupied us till 1990,but...for unknown reason killed less then 200.000,and treated us much better then their own people.
And now,postsoviets ruled by KGB mafia want us enslaved again.Not goin to happen,not without fight.
2.Those banderities are dying instead of us.Best outcome of that war would be,if last banderite killed last kgb dude and died .
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PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
If Democrats decide to gave Ukraine to Moscov for notching,it still could happen.
FDR gave Poland to them in 1943,so why not?
Musk is not Ukrainian nor has he taken any oaths to protect Ukraine AFAIK. He did Ukraine a solid in providing Starlink at the start of the war when the Russians trashed Ukraine's comms network but TBPH the Zelinsky Admin have been at their worst in being both discourteous and ungrateful for the help he provided. They put him on their goddamn assassination list FFS.
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I mean, I have not heard of the assassination list
Elon Musk Made Ukraine's Kill List for 15 Minutes
Mirotvorets, or ‘Peacemaker,’ website, whose creators seek to bring ‘peace’ to their country with the help of...a kill list, put Elon Musk...
www.independentsentinel.com
He made a list... maybe it was 'just a joke'
I would not consider that an official Ukrainian government listElon Musk Made Ukraine's Kill List for 15 Minutes
Mirotvorets, or ‘Peacemaker,’ website, whose creators seek to bring ‘peace’ to their country with the help of...a kill list, put Elon Musk...
He made a list... maybe it was 'just a joke'
It was something. The Ukrainian government and their boosters have treated Elon like a POS for over a year when they should've said 'thank you for your support at the time of greatest need i.e. the first days' but instead we get stuff just like what I first responded to. Elon doesn't owe Ukraine jack shit and it's not a credit to the Kyiv government's collective character in constantly inciting this because again, he's not Ukrainian, he took no oaths to Ukraine and it's not like the US DoD didn't purchase unlimited Starlink for Ukraine anyway and which Starlink did sell to the DoD which means Elon doesn't have to worry about the Realpolitik that should be the responsibility of NATO and the animatronics and taxidermists that move Hairsniffer around.
Or maybe this is some giant Kabuki theater to keep Putin from waxing Elon but that goes against Occam's Razor.
He does eat up Russian propaganda and does not go out of his way to ban Chinese bot accounts