Battletech BattleTech discussion thread: May the light of Hanse Davion guide us

[Husky_Khan]

What....

Just saw it on the Twitter now.

 

[Spartan303]

Just saw it on the Twitter now.

That's almost lawsuit worthy.

 

[Typhonis]

That's almost lawsuit worthy.

Let's see if the Employee did own that server then yeah that's theft and wrongful termination.

However I'm not a lawyer so consult with a real one. Though this does NOT look good for CGL.

 

[nemo1986]

CGL reportedly took over a private Discord server whose Admin was a CGL employee that wouldn't let a *takes a deep breath* LGBTQIA+ member issue death threats against wrong thinkers who were in the same server.

That's pretty much all private discord channels. The employee's mistake was letting her bosses know it existed.

 

[Blasterbot]

Leftism should always be gatekept.

 

[Aaron Fox]

BB-2 (Noah II) Battleship
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Use: System Patrol, Light Capital Ship, Flagship
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Introduced: 2630
Mass: 2,500,000
Battle Value: 333,415
Tech Rating/Availability: E/E-X-E-X
Cost: 45,008,486,000 C-bills

Dimensions
    Length: 1200 meters
    Width: 100 meters
    Height: 100 meters

Fuel: 7,000 tons (17,500)
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Sail Integrity: 9
KF Drive Integrity: 48
Heat Sinks: 25,000
Structural Integrity: 150

Armor
    Nose: 765
    Fore Sides: 765/765
    Aft Sides: 765/765
    Aft: 765

Cargo
    Bay 1:  ARTS Fighter (48)       12 Doors 
    Bay 2:  ARTS Small Craft (24)   6 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (8141.0 tons)     10 Doors 

Ammunition:
    57,600 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (4,800 tons),
    40 rounds of Medium N-Gauss ammunition (16 tons),
    120 rounds of Heavy N-Gauss ammunition (60 tons),
    4,800 rounds of LRM 20 ammunition (800 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 10
Grav Decks: 6 (100 m, 100 m, 100 m, 100 m, 100 m, 100 m)
Escape Pods: 0
Life Boats: 282
Crew:  156 officers, 601 enlisted/non-rated, 177 gunners, 120 bay personnel, 120 passengers, 480 marines       

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    1 Communications Equipment (200 tons)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
    7,500 tons of improved ferro-aluminum armor.

Weapons:                                        Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                  Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (4,726 Heat)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
2 Naval Gauss (Heavy)                       36   60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital Gauss
    Heavy N-Gauss Ammo (40 shots)
40 Large Laser                              320  32(320) 32(320)  0(0)     0(0)   Laser       
8 Naval Laser 55                            680  44(440) 44(440) 44(440) 44(440)  Capital Laser
2 Naval Gauss (Medium)                      30   50(500) 50(500) 50(500) 50(500)  Capital Gauss
    Medium N-Gauss Ammo (20 shots)
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)
FRS/FLS (920 Heat)
6 Naval Laser 45                            420  27(270) 27(270) 27(270) 27(270)  Capital Laser
40 Large Laser                              320  32(320) 32(320)  0(0)     0(0)   Laser       
20 LRM 20                                   120  24(240) 24(240) 24(240)   0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 Ammo (1200 shots)
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)
RBS/LBS (4,711 Heat)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
2 Naval Gauss (Heavy)                       36   60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital Gauss
    Heavy N-Gauss Ammo (40 shots)
40 Large Laser                              320  32(320) 32(320)  0(0)     0(0)   Laser       
8 Naval Laser 55                            680  44(440) 44(440) 44(440) 44(440)  Capital Laser
1 Naval Gauss (Medium)                      15   25(250) 25(250) 25(250) 25(250)  Capital Gauss
    Medium N-Gauss Ammo (10 shots)
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)
ARS/ALS (920 Heat)
6 Naval Laser 45                            420  27(270) 27(270) 27(270) 27(270)  Capital Laser
40 Large Laser                              320  32(320) 32(320)  0(0)     0(0)   Laser       
20 LRM 20                                   120  24(240) 24(240) 24(240)   0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 Ammo (1200 shots)
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)
Aft (720 Heat)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
40 Large Laser                              320  32(320) 32(320)  0(0)     0(0)   Laser       
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)

Basically the Noah equivalent of a McKenna before the SLDF refit. Instead of using NAC batteries, it uses N-Gauss batteries as their HNPPC pair. Because shields can be a bitch (and nothing says 'fuck your shields' like a weapon that flings a projectile several hundred kilos at over 500km/s). Also, one of the Gorg's 'sticks' is spamming ASF assets, meaning a hefty anti-fighter armament. Due to the fact that KF drives interfere with shield technology, having as much armor and firepower as possible became a priority. The reasoning for the AMS is simple: the Gorg realized that they couldn't kill Noahan ships fast enough with their energy-only naval armaments alone, so they turned to their somewhat disused torpedo and missile weapons (which usually use antimatter for warheads), meaning some versions of the various ships are loaded to the kills with missile launchers armed with nukes.

BB-3a (Noah IIIa) Battleship
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Use: System Patrol, Capital Ship, Flagship
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Introduced: 2785
Mass: 2,500,000
Battle Value: 414,993
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-F-X
Cost: 52,853,960,000 C-bills

Dimensions
    Length: 1200 meters
    Width: 100 meters
    Height: 100 meters

Fuel: 7,000 tons (17,500)
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Sail Integrity: 9
KF Drive Integrity: 48
Heat Sinks: 17000 (34000)
Structural Integrity: 150

Armor
    Nose: 1265
    Fore Sides: 1265/1265
    Aft Sides: 1265/1265
    Aft: 1265

Cargo
    Bay 1:  ARTS Fighter (48)       12 Doors 
    Bay 2:  ARTS Small Craft (24)   6 Doors   
    Bay 3:  Cargo (10044.0 tons)    12 Doors 

Ammunition:
    8,640 rounds of Gauss Rifle [IS] ammunition (1,080 tons),
    57,600 rounds of Anti-Missile System [IS] ammunition (4,800 tons),
    60 rounds of Medium N-Gauss ammunition (24 tons),
    120 rounds of Heavy N-Gauss ammunition (60 tons),
    4,800 rounds of LRM 20 ammunition (800 tons)

Dropship Capacity: 12
Grav Decks: 6 (100 m, 100 m, 100 m, 100 m, 100 m, 100 m)
Escape Pods: 0
Life Boats: 286
Crew:  158 officers, 619 enlisted/non-rated, 176 gunners, 120 bay personnel, 120 passengers, 480 marines       

Notes: Equipped with
    lithium-fusion battery system
    1 Mobile Hyperpulse Generators (Mobile HPG)
    1 Communications Equipment (200 tons)
    1 Naval Comm-Scanner Suite (Large)
    7,500 tons of lamellor ferro-carbide armor.

Weapons:                                        Capital Attack Values (Standard)
Arc (Heat)                                  Heat  SRV     MRV     LRV      ERV    Class       
Nose (4,716 Heat)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
2 Naval Gauss (Heavy)                       36   60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital Gauss
    Heavy N-Gauss Ammo (40 shots)
8 Naval Laser 55                            680  44(440) 44(440) 44(440) 44(440)  Capital Laser
2 Naval Gauss (Medium)                      30   50(500) 50(500) 50(500) 50(500)  Capital Gauss
    Medium N-Gauss Ammo (20 shots)
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)
30 Large Pulse Laser                        300  27(270) 27(270)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Gauss Rifle                              10   15(150) 15(150) 15(150)   0(0)   AC         
    Gauss Rifle Ammo [IS] (1440 shots)
FRS/FLS (911 Heat)
6 Naval Laser 45                            420  27(270) 27(270) 27(270) 27(270)  Capital Laser
20 LRM 20                                   120  24(240) 24(240) 24(240)   0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 Ammo (1200 shots)
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)
30 Large Pulse Laser                        300  27(270) 27(270)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
11 Gauss Rifle                              11   17(165) 17(165) 17(165)   0(0)   AC         
    Gauss Rifle Ammo [IS] (1440 shots)
RBS/LBS (4,706 Heat)
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
4 Naval PPC (Heavy)                         900  60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital PPC
2 Naval Gauss (Heavy)                       36   60(600) 60(600) 60(600) 60(600)  Capital Gauss
    Heavy N-Gauss Ammo (40 shots)
8 Naval Laser 55                            680  44(440) 44(440) 44(440) 44(440)  Capital Laser
2 Naval Gauss (Medium)                      30   50(500) 50(500) 50(500) 50(500)  Capital Gauss
    Medium N-Gauss Ammo (20 shots)
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)
30 Large Pulse Laser                        300  27(270) 27(270)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
ARS/ALS (910 Heat)
6 Naval Laser 45                            420  27(270) 27(270) 27(270) 27(270)  Capital Laser
20 LRM 20                                   120  24(240) 24(240) 24(240)   0(0)   LRM         
    LRM 20 Ammo (1200 shots)
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)
30 Large Pulse Laser                        300  27(270) 27(270)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Gauss Rifle                              10   15(150) 15(150) 15(150)   0(0)   AC         
    Gauss Rifle Ammo [IS] (1440 shots)
Aft (710 Heat)
4 Naval Laser 55                            340  22(220) 22(220) 22(220) 22(220)  Capital Laser
60 Anti-Missile System                      60   18(180)  0(0)    0(0)     0(0)   AMS         
    Anti-Missile System Ammo [IS] (7200 shots)
30 Large Pulse Laser                        300  27(270) 27(270)  0(0)     0(0)   Pulse Laser
10 Gauss Rifle                              10   15(150) 15(150) 15(150)   0(0)   AC         
    Gauss Rifle Ammo [IS] (1440 shots)

The maximum SLDF upgrade of the Noah. 'Why are you throwing so much firepower onto a target?' as a ship. You also might notice that these ships don't have the massive cargo holds BT warships are (in)famous for; that's largely because Noah has gone another direction for their ships. The basic concept is that only specific ship types are fitted with cavernous cargo bays, for their jobs require such bays, while other ships are fitted with the cargo bays they need to keep their equipment and personnel in good supply. Basically, fleet replenishment, planetary invasion, and cargo transport ships have immense cargo holds.

 

[PsihoKekec]

 

[The Whispering Monk]

🙄

idiots gonna idiot I guess. Just don't realize the maker of that mini doesn't like Marik.

 

[CurtisLemay]

Remember when it was just the reddit takeover? Not any more.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Gotta protect that IP.

 

[Culsu]

Pretty sure they'd have more success at protecting the future of their IP if they depoliticized their stance and invested in better writing across the board... 😏

 

[Tiamat]

@CurtisLemay , for what it's worth? If they try to go after Clover Spear and anything related to it? They don't have legal shit to stand on because it's fanfic and not a cent was made with any of it.

 

[Culsu]

It seems they're primarily concerned about IP rights on a "don't shove it in our faces on platforms we run" basis. Besides, non-profit work, private commissions and derivative content (ie. Battletech-'compatible') are out of their hands anyway.

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

So, they're pulling a GW? Scheming, Banning people they don't like from every community they attempt to gain control of, weaponizing fan IP 'violations,' increasing the prices for their minis?

3D printers are a thing, now a days. And 3SW-Clan Invasion is the most popular era, right?

In a game where the rules haven't really changed in 35 years and explicitly doesn't require minis?

So they're going to go after every grognard and long beard they can, destroying their core audience. And, of course, the new audience they want are too busy being activists and degenerates to play a war game with 'blatantly racist' factions.

And of course, they don't realize or care about that.

I like how CGL is literally seven years behind the curve. I suppose given the fuckery with Shadowrun that this was basically inevitable.

 

[nemo1986]

I'm already planning on getting a 3d printer in the near future.

 

[CurtisLemay]

And the rest of YouTube is chiming in.

 

[CurtisLemay]

It seems there's an ugly underbelly to it all.

 

[Tiamat]

It seems there's an ugly underbelly to it all.

@CurtisLemay , at this point, fuck'em. Best anyone can do, fans like yourselves just create your own content.


Sadly, this is just another aspect of the shitty culture wars going on right now, and it's going to get worse before it gets better.

 

[PsihoKekec]

 

[Jormungandr]

....I really, really need to learn how to properly art, since Zerg-infested Battlemechs would be a kickass crossover project.

You've seen Infested Terran units like Marines? Scale it up to Battlemechs.