Election 2020 Beto O'Rourke says churches should be taxed if they refuse to support gay marriage

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Beto O’Rourke says churches should be taxed if they refuse to support gay marriage - Washington Examiner

Beto O’Rourke said he thinks that religious institutions should be stripped of their tax-exempt status if they oppose homosexuality. While at a CNN candidate forum about gay and transgender issues, moderator Don Lemon asked the 47-year-old former congressman whether he supported revoking the...
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Beto O’Rourke said he thinks that religious institutions should be stripped of their tax-exempt status if they oppose homosexuality.

While at a CNN candidate forum about gay and transgender issues, moderator Don Lemon asked the 47-year-old former congressman whether he supported revoking the tax-exempt status for religious institutions such as churches, colleges, and charities, if they don't support gay marriage.

“Yes,” O’Rourke responded, to much applause.

“There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break, for anyone or any institution, any organization in America that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us,” O’Rourke said. “And so, as president, we’re going to make that a priority, and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans.”

Democratic Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey was asked a similar question earlier during the four-hour candidate forum but dodged the question.

O’Rourke has faced criticism from conservatives and more moderate members of his party for some of his other positions, including his support for government-mandated confiscation of AR-15s and AK-47s.
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Opinion: Beto O'Rourke's 'church tax' idea plays into conservative paranoia about same-sex marriage

Beto O'Rourke would penalize churches that oppose same-sex marriage.
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Some mainstream media guy complaining about how Beto is proving the religious conservatives slippery slope ideas as true.

Neither Lemon’s question nor O’Rourke’s answer distinguished between civil marriage and religious marriage. But some religious organizations have expressed strong views about whether even civil marriage should be available to same-sex couples.

For example, after the Supreme Court held in 2015 that the Constitution required that same-sex couples be allowed to marry, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops complained that the ruling “redefines marriage in the law throughout the entire country, changing thousands of laws regarding marriage, family and children and threatening religious freedom in numerous ways.”

So it would seem from O’Rourke’s answer on CNN that if he had his way the Catholic Church would lose its tax-exempt status unless it changed its teachings about marriage. (On Friday, the Dallas Morning News reported that an aide to O’Rourke said that the candidate was talking not about teachings or beliefs but about “religious institutions that take discriminatory action.” Would that include a Christian college’s refusal to allow same-sex married couples to use married student housing? What about lobbying by the Catholic bishops against legislation allowing same-sex married couples to adopt children?)
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LifeisTiresome said:
He is on the right side of history, bigot :mad:
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"right side of history" who knew history had such a conservative bias :p

LifeisTiresome said:
I wonder if he has the balls to have this be imposed on mosques.
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Probably not, but given how he is pretty much going all out with a lot of the absurd left-wing positions like literally saying he's gonna take your property and such... I wouldn't be surprised if he would switch on a dime to include it if by some miracle the far-left stopped hatemongering on the Christians while praising the Muslims as some kind of sacred goose and then did an inverse on that approach or at the very least held Muslims to the same standards.
 
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If it weren't for the fact that it was almost impossible, I would have said Beto was actually a double agent because his stunts are doing everything possible to justify talking points about both guns and churches at this point with the Democrats included in the collateral damage. Which funnily enough is probably why I've heard that Democrats really don't appreciate his comments.
 
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Isem said:
If it weren't for the fact that it was almost impossible, I would have said Beto was actually a double agent because his stunts are doing everything possible to justify talking points about both guns and churches at this point with the Democrats included in the collateral damage. Which funnily enough is probably why I've heard that Democrats really don't appreciate his comments.
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Thats exactly what the guy in the la times link in my OP said.

Honestly, I feel Beto is just telling bluntly what the Democrats aka left actually want rather then hiding it.

Its refreshing.
 
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I'm reminded of all the leftists saying "well, clearly being an angry asshole is how you get elected now, time to do that and make those red states suffer" after Trump won, but forgetting that most of the stuff Trunp was getting flack for were minor things the media blew out of proportion or invented. And when being a bunch of angry lunatics didn't work, they doubled down on it because they'd gotten used to acting like that/not having to pretend to be nice (depending on how cynical you want to be).

I think Beto also forgot about that whole "Trump didn't actually say that" thing.
 
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Honestly I was surprised. My college had a panel with some European Reporters about what Europe thinks about US politics.

They thought Trump was certainly not going to get elected because "Sexual Misconduct Scandals", specifically that one tape involving stuff he said about being backstage with women.

And I'm sitting here going "You do realize we had a President not get impeached over Perjury relating to adultery right?" like, if Bill Clinton of all people could get elected you'd probably need to be a convicted felon to not get elected over sex scandals.

Now, stuff like this stuff with Beto is definitely in the category of "can actually get large amounts of voters to vote for 'Whoever isn't this guy'".
 
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Beto is a serious candidate to get the black vote to edge significantly higher for Trump or just to not vote period given the large number of church goers and that they are one of the lowest demographics who support gay marriage. I would also be interested in seeing the reaction flipside, sanctuary churches for illegal immigrants getting tax exemption removed. After all, they support violating the laws of the land right Beto?
 
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This is blantantly unconstitutional and is a violation of said churches first amendment rights. The only way to get this through is to blatantly pack the supreme court with obvious and open ideloges. Which means your pretty much going to get the country into a civil war.

For his own sake he better hope and pray he loses.
 
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If any Dem Candidate wins, should we be concerned about a large amount of "suicides" and "accidents" among the Supreme Court? I read some weird stuff on some papers that were going around my town about how the "far-right government needs to go" and how they are getting support from "influential groups who wish to be on the right side of history" and how we should "clean up the fascists by any means necessary".
 
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Cherico said:
The only way to get this through is to blatantly pack the supreme court with obvious and open ideloges.
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You mean that thing that democrat supporters have been openly talking about doing ever since Gorsuch got nominated?

Don’t be terribly surprised. The dems have basically decided the judicial branch needs to represent progressive ideology.

So come hell or high water, if they get back in power, they’re going to pack the courts so full of young leftist judges that conservatives will never again win a court case.
 
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You mean that thing that democrat supporters have been openly talking about doing ever since Gorsuch got nominated?

Don’t be terribly surprised. The dems have basically decided the judicial branch needs to represent progressive ideology.

So come hell or high water, if they get back in power, they’re going to pack the courts so full of young leftist judges that conservatives will never again win a court case.
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which means that the next time a conservative gets into office the same thing happens to them.


Because at that point the norm has been broken and there is zero reason to try to play nice any more.
 
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