China Military News

[Husky_Khan]

New Perun video on the Chinese Military Capabilities. I haven't watched it yet (it's an important holiday after all) but might as well link it here since people appreciate these powerpoint presentations here.



00:00:00 — Opening Words
00:00:42 — What Am I Talking About?
00:02:00 — Strategy And Strategic Environment
00:13:11 — The Forces
00:13:35 — The Strategic Support Force
00:17:59 — The Space Systems Department
00:18:49 — Network Systems Department
00:21:10 — PLA Ground Forces
00:27:51 — PLAAF (Air Force)
00:36:15 — PLAN (Navy)
00:49:22 — The Rocket Force
00:53:09 — Shortfalls, Trends & Perspectives
01:05:48 — Channel Update

 

[IndyFront]

Just found this. It's truly mindboggling how much China and India utterly dwarf objectively large countries like Brazil, the U.S., Nigeria and Indonesia.

 

[DarthOne]

Just found this. It's truly mindboggling how much China and India utterly dwarf objectively large countries like Brazil, the U.S., Nigeria and Indonesia.

Yet for some reason it’s the West that’s getting sabotaged more

 

[Husky_Khan]

The United States, Japan and Philippines also recently conducted joint military exercises in the region.

Philippines stands up to Beijing in South China sea tussle

Fishermen are on the frontline of a worsening territorial standoff as Manila asserts itself against China.

www.bbc.com

In June the Philippines will play host to Marpolex, a multinational military exercise to train in response to maritime pollution (like oil spills) which has taken place every two years since 1986 with varying levels of participation. Japan and Indonesia have participated in the exercises for a while now, but recently the United States, South Korea and for the first time the Vietnamese Coast Guards have been invited to participate as well.

PCG to invite Vietnam to trilateral exercise in June

The Philippine Coast Guard intends to strengthen ties with the Vietnamese Coast Guard by inviting them to join for the first time the trilateral marine pollution exercise in June.

www.philstar.com

Recently Chinese State Media boasted of a victory where it stated their ChiCom Coast Guard vessels had successfully repelled a small thirty meter long Filipino Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources Vessel, the BRP Datu Sanday from the Philippines own EEZ. That was apparently false news. Sad.

 

[Husky_Khan]

It's been a few months since the Philippines sent a resupply mission to their rusted ship/outpost on the Second Thomas Shoal. How is it going?

Two collisions, the first between a Chinese Coast Guard vessel and the Filipino Coast Guard vessel BRP Sindangan, one of six ships recently acquired from Japan back in 2017.

A second collision occurred between a Chinese Coast Guard vessel and the Filipino Supply Ship Unaizah May which collided with a Coast Guard vessel and had a water cannon blast at it, shattering some of the bridge windows and injuring four Filipino naval personnel.



While unknown, this might be due to the Filipino Navy being better at seamanship as on display in previous encounters and in fact, immediately prior to the water cannon attack.



Regardless, due to damage to the supply ship, it had to return to Palawan for repairs.



After resupplying the outpost of course...

China slammed for ‘dangerous’ act after Beijing coast guard ship collides with Filipino vessel, injuring four

The Chinese coast guard ships and accompanying vessels blocked the Philippine coast guard and supply vessels off the disputed Second Thomas Shoal and executed dangerous maneuvers that caused two mi…

nypost.com

 

[Lord Sovereign]

China is seeing how far it can push. If it meets to Xi Jinping’s satisfaction, he will attack Taiwan.

Now more than ever there must be a robust response to any form of Chinese aggression.

 

[IndyFront]

It's been a few months since the Philippines sent a resupply mission to their rusted ship/outpost on the Second Thomas Shoal. How is it going?

Two collisions, the first between a Chinese Coast Guard vessel and the Filipino Coast Guard vessel BRP Sindangan, one of six ships recently acquired from Japan back in 2017.

A second collision occurred between a Chinese Coast Guard vessel and the Filipino Supply Ship Unaizah May which collided with a Coast Guard vessel and had a water cannon blast at it, shattering some of the bridge windows and injuring four Filipino naval personnel.



While unknown, this might be due to the Filipino Navy being better at seamanship as on display in previous encounters and in fact, immediately prior to the water cannon attack.



Regardless, due to damage to the supply ship, it had to return to Palawan for repairs.



After resupplying the outpost of course...

China slammed for ‘dangerous’ act after Beijing coast guard ship collides with Filipino vessel, injuring four

The Chinese coast guard ships and accompanying vessels blocked the Philippine coast guard and supply vessels off the disputed Second Thomas Shoal and executed dangerous maneuvers that caused two mi…

nypost.com

I've been doing some research into Chinese manufacturing power and I'm starting to realize that if they wanted to, just due to their sheer economic and demographic size, they could paralyse the entire global economy and really destroy a lot of countries at once if they wanted to. I wonder if this is just sabre-rattling to try and incite the U.S. into some sort of military action in the SCS

 

[Husky_Khan]

I've been doing some research into Chinese manufacturing power and I'm starting to realize that if they wanted to, just due to their sheer economic and demographic size, they could paralyse the entire global economy and really destroy a lot of countries at once if they wanted to. I wonder if this is just sabre-rattling to try and incite the U.S. into some sort of military action in the SCS

China has captured a significant portion of the manufacturing market but its important to note exactly what sectors you are referring to. Plus any open war with China and probably any other country that's either linked to the US (South Korea, Japan, Philippines etc) or other major nation like India, Taiwan, Malaysia, Indonesia etc could likely have an extremely deleterious effect on the global economy. Which is probably why no one obviously wants to escalate too provocatively.

The one important metric I know of is just in shipbuilding and other maritime "infrastructure" itself as while the United States still has naval shipyards and dockyards, it doesn't have any real way of expanding it since America doesn't do large scale civilian/commercial shipbuilding anymore. Countries like Japan, South Korea and Philippines still do however.

 

[Zachowon]

I've been doing some research into Chinese manufacturing power and I'm starting to realize that if they wanted to, just due to their sheer economic and demographic size, they could paralyse the entire global economy and really destroy a lot of countries at once if they wanted to. I wonder if this is just sabre-rattling to try and incite the U.S. into some sort of military action in the SCS

And they wouldnalso destroy thier entire nation in the process.
All it takes is the world saying no to exporting fuel for China

 

[LordsFire]

I've been doing some research into Chinese manufacturing power and I'm starting to realize that if they wanted to, just due to their sheer economic and demographic size, they could paralyse the entire global economy and really destroy a lot of countries at once if they wanted to. I wonder if this is just sabre-rattling to try and incite the U.S. into some sort of military action in the SCS

They could disrupt a lot of economic activity, but one of the big questions is 'what do they have that is absolutely essential?'

There's only really two things that fall under that category, food, and energy.

China is the world's largest importer of both to the best of my knowledge.

They could hurt a lot of people, but they'd also be hurting themselves, and there's nothing they provide that can't come from somewhere else. They tried to play controlling games with the Rare Earth's Market years ago, for example, and all they really accomplished was a temporary market spike, and sources in other countries starting to be developed to end their choke-hold.

Most of what China offers the world is value-added low and mid-range manufacturing. Such things can be done in any politically stable country, so any damage they can deal is ultimately temporary.

 

[paulobrito]

And they wouldnalso destroy thier entire nation in the process.
All it takes is the world saying no to exporting fuel for China

Russia, Iran, and several ex-Soviet republics have huge reserves of oil and gas and are commercial partners of China. I don't see any of these bowing to US pressure to stop selling to China. And all can deliver via land routes.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Russia, Iran, and several ex-Soviet republics have huge reserves of oil and gas and are commercial partners of China. I don't see any of these bowing to US pressure to stop selling to China. And all can deliver via land routes.

What if the pipelines break?

 

[Marduk]

Russia, Iran, and several ex-Soviet republics have huge reserves of oil and gas and are commercial partners of China. I don't see any of these bowing to US pressure to stop selling to China. And all can deliver via land routes.

In theory, in long term. In practice it requires massive investment in technologically, and in few cases also politically non-trivial rail or pipe routes.

 

[Jormungandr]

In theory, in long term. In practice it requires massive investment in technologically, and in few cases also politically non-trivial rail or pipe routes.

Russia is also in complete shambles at the moment, so exporting significant amounts of oil to China in the quantity they need is going to be incredibly difficult.

Iran? There's zero doubt they'd rip the ass out of China for their crude. I mean, it's bloody Iran.

There are a few ex-Soviet states still friendly with Russia, but a lot of them have politically pulled away because they simply don't trust Russia now after their shenanigans with various "republics" and Crimea/Ukraine.

 

[LordsFire]

Russia, Iran, and several ex-Soviet republics have huge reserves of oil and gas and are commercial partners of China. I don't see any of these bowing to US pressure to stop selling to China. And all can deliver via land routes.

This is enough to keep China from being completely choked off. It's not enough to keep oil flowing in sufficient quantities at economical prices.

There's a reason the Middle East has been a hot spot since the mid-20th century, and for as long as the West is infested with greenie watermelon madness, that's unlikely to change.

 

[Zachowon]

Russia, Iran, and several ex-Soviet republics have huge reserves of oil and gas and are commercial partners of China. I don't see any of these bowing to US pressure to stop selling to China. And all can deliver via land routes.

Okay...so they have to spend millions to billions making all these new pipelines and rail networks....
To get some level of power.
Now cut out Aussie coal and what do you get?
What about destroying the Three Girges Dam?

 

[paulobrito]

If any nation attacks the Three Gorges Dam, the Chinese answer is a boatload of nuke-tipped missiles.
Please stop proposing WW3 scenarios.

 

[Poe]

If any nation attacks the Three Gorges Dam, the Chinese answer is a boatload of nuke-tipped missiles.
Please stop proposing WW3 scenarios.

Are we not already discussing world war 3?

 

[Jormungandr]

If any nation attacks the Three Gorges Dam, the Chinese answer is a boatload of nuke-tipped missiles.
Please stop proposing WW3 scenarios.

Eh, no one has to attack it. It's collapsing on its own.

They've even gone to such extreme measures as to inject concrete into the bedrock, and it's only partially working as a temporary solution.

It's going to collapse. It's just a matter of "when", not "if".

 

[Husky_Khan]

Taiwan having an option to strike the Three Gorges Dam on the other hand should provide a nice deterrent to the highest levels of Chinese aggression and help focus everyone on following a path of mutual understanding and respect.