I was going to say it was your work ethic backfiring, evey one else will go "Meh thats too hard this is good enough" But a german will look at the problem and go. "Maximum effort!"
Some times this goes well some times this backfires horribly.
Conservatism and the Environment
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I was going to say it was your work ethic backfiring, evey one else will go "Meh thats too hard this is good enough" But a german will look at the problem and go. "Maximum effort!"
Some times this goes well some times this backfires horribly.
Dichter und Denker, more Verflucht und Verdammt.
bintananth
behind a desk
When my daughters got their drivers licenses I told them that they could pick any car they wanted I could afford provided it wasn't a German car.
German energy policy in effect got taken over by an alliance of thieves and traitors. The thieves reap the money out of "green transformation" by acting as middlemen, managers, researchers, even producers of hardware that would not have these cushy jobs in a sane setup, while the traitors are crazy ecoterrorists who have decided to damage economic prosperity through legal means for a change, and more or less aware Russian influence agents who want Germany to be held by Putin on a short and profitable pipeline shaped leash - got to always note how natural gas is the only politically correct power source that is technically capable of filling the gaps renewables create. And if he holds Germany on a leash, that's halfway to holding the whole EU on a leash. And looking at the gas prices, this winter may be when Putin starts to pull on the leash.The punchline of the story being the German use of coal-fired power plants to fill the gap, something anyone involved knew had to happen... but the "greens" did it anyway. Years later, they're laying it on thick regarding the coal plants their own irresponsible actions made necessary. Meanwhile, their precious solar/wind initiatives are held up by their own stupid bureaucracy and thoughtless over-regulation.
Germany Flirts With Power Crunch in Nuclear and Coal Exit
www.bloomberg.com
Looks like Germans may have to get used to rolling blackouts in the mid 20s if they want to Save The Planet.
the entire western world is dealing with the issue of increasingly corrupt elites who are more loyal to each other then their respective nations or even civilizations.
Nuclear Fusion maybe closer on the horizon.
www.sciencefocus.com
Science Focus said:
Why the promise of nuclear fusion is no longer a pipe dream
Fusion – combining atomic nuclei to release energy – is a clean and safe way to power our homes and industry. This ‘holy grail’ of energy has eluded physicists for decades, but there are signs that a bright future could be on the horizon.
www.sciencefocus.com
Yinko
Well-known member
Saw video on that. Essentially, the new system can produce 10x the energy that is needed to operate it, according to a test of a single magnetic assembly piece. This is significant because the best previous reactor could only produce 0.7x of the energy needed to operate it. So over ten times better. It's also scalable, and bound to become more scalable as better warm super-conductors are discovered.Nuclear Fusion maybe closer on the horizon.
Why the promise of nuclear fusion is no longer a pipe dream
Fusion – combining atomic nuclei to release energy – is a clean and safe way to power our homes and industry. This ‘holy grail’ of energy has eluded physicists for decades, but there are signs that a bright future could be on the horizon.
Nuclear Fusion maybe closer on the horizon.
Why the promise of nuclear fusion is no longer a pipe dream
Fusion – combining atomic nuclei to release energy – is a clean and safe way to power our homes and industry. This ‘holy grail’ of energy has eluded physicists for decades, but there are signs that a bright future could be on the horizon.
fusion if it works changes everything, i cant understate how much mass produced cheap power changes things, a lot of them for the better.
Orangeduke38
Well-known member
I'll believe it when I see it, we've been 10 years or one last breakthrough away from nuclear fusion for 50 years at this point.
70 years, this shit is really really hard but also really worth it if we pull it off.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I'm not confident that the political and cultural left won't decide that once it actually works, it's just as dangerous and nasty as Fission. Because practically speaking, fission can and has been doing everything we want from fusion for seventy years.
Also, even if this does produce useful energy, that still doesn't mean it will be economical.
Also, even if this does produce useful energy, that still doesn't mean it will be economical.
the political and cultural left as a dynamic has 80 years or so worth of life in it tops. Once fusion is a thing is created then it exists as an option so even if we cant use it if our grandchildren can then thats still worth it.
LindyAF
Well-known member
This tbh. I’d much rather see a push for fission than more hoping for fusion one day.
Not that fusion isn’t exciting, but I’m not sure it will deliver on the wild promises materially different than fission already does.
There is conservative minded environmentalism. Most of that tends toward practical and local solutions first though. Basically, elbow grease working environmental problems. But that's not sexy and doesn't backdoor socialism into the economy so the Democrats and Rinos don't go for it.
Oh you are preaching to the choir here.
Some of the sanest, more practical, and often best thought out environmental ideas/projects I've seen were ones put forward by conservative environmentalists.
Unfortunately those conservative environmentalists seem to be ignored by a lot of their own side, and some seem to want to deny one can be environmental minded and 'conservative' at the same time.
And a lot of the doubt with most environmental issues/plans boil down to 'we can do a lot of things, but getting the CCP or India to follow suit is almost impossible', which is a legit problem.
Environmentalism tends to take a backseat when there is real fear our economy is about to implode due to sheer Democrat incompetence. I suspect it'll be that way for a while. But even then, the US cutdown its carbon emissions by what? 10% but that was made up by China and India increasing it by 300% each.
You aren't wrong that environmental concerns don't mean much to a person struggling with 5$ a gallon gas and iffy supply chains.
You aren't wrong that it is also an issue where it feels hard to justify doing things if the CCP and India will just pollute more anyway.
However, there's a difference between those viewpoints, and saying that all 'green' issues are frauds, as Lordsfire did.
posh-goofiness
Well-known member
"Conservative environmentalism" is conservationism. The "environmentalist" framing is part of the reason you don't get much support on the right for conservationist initiatives. Additionally, the environmentalist movement has engaged in a decades long propaganda campaign to minimize the conservationist movement. The latter doesn't generate nearly enough money for the corrupt as the former.