Deep State (Dis)Respect Thread

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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The FBI are somehow corrupt and yet do thier job, fail, and complete thier job.
 

VicSage

Carpenter, Cobbler, Chirugeon, Dataminer.
Why is it that we continually see capitulation for any attempt on the equivalent of making sure the mailman isn't steaming all your letters open for juicy gossip?
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
I expected the IG to find stuff. Problem is the IG has no authority to actually get charges filed. Now we get to trust/rely on the FBI, who committed the crimes, to charge themselves with the crimes.

Yup, I have no expectations that anything of consequence will happen. I no longer have any trust in the FBI.
By this point, any government organization or individual within the government with the power to actually affect change has been subverted. As for the rest, having them flail around fruitlessly actually serves the establishment's purposes; because it gives the people the illusion that something is being done to fight corruption.
 

History Learner

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The truth is DC and the establishment want Assange charged because he hurt Hillary's 2016 run with his reporting, not because he did anything illegal.


He was already in hiding by then; the real reason Assange is hated is because of what he exposed in the early 2010s, in particular about the shit we were doing in the War on Terror.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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the war on terror was by its nature a dirty war and one I think we fucked up in a lot of ways.
Everyone should watch 'Frontline: Unites States of Secrets' from PBS; it's a two-parter that is free on Youtube.

It goes into good detail on how fucked up the orders/decision making in the Bush and Obama White Houses was with regards to the Patriot Act/NSA powers/abuses, and what happened to the whistleblowers before Snowden, which caused him to do what he did.

It has actual interviews with Glenn Greenwald and the the others involved in it, including those who also leaked stuff to Assange.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
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The FBI seized a million dollars worth of assets from a family of six, forcing them to sell their home, liquidate their retirement savings and live in a relatives basement based on an investigation that after two years hasn't yielded a single indictment.

Reason said:
In April 2020, agents showed up at the Nelsons' home and informed them that Carl—a former real estate transaction manager for Amazon—was under investigation for allegedly depriving the tech behemoth of his "honest services." In plainer terms, they accused him of showing favor to certain developers and securing them deals in exchange for illegal kickbacks. "That never happened and is exactly why I've fought as long and hard as I have," he says. "It's that simple."

Whether or not the FBI has come to that conclusion is still a mystery; its years-long investigation into Carl's alleged fraud has not yielded an indictment. Yet no such thing was necessary for the federal government to wreck the Nelsons' lives, costing them their home, their community, their jobs, their girls' place in their Seattle school, and their security for the future.

Perhaps more vexing: The FBI has, in some sense, subtly conceded that it didn't need to do any of the above to complete their investigation or to hamstring any supposed criminal operation run by Carl. Last week, the government agreed to a settlement: Of the original approximately $892,000 it seized, it will return $525,000, while Amy and Carl forfeit about $109,000. (The remaining sum has been depleted by court fees.)

 

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