Dystopian Europe

LordsFire

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No he wasn't that's retarded. National Socialism only has socialism in the name because it was vogue, they were literally militant anti-socialists.


If Nazism counts as socialism so does every other ideology other than anarcho-capitalism. Having some aspects of a shared society is not what makes something socialism.
They absolutely were socialists, just not the Marxist flavor.
 

Skitzyfrenic

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Fascism and Socialism are pretty much mirrors of each other. Economically and culturally they have basically the same end state, even if their methodology is different. Both require a totalitarian government to properly function as advertised.

The twins of modernity, and only Fascism is shunned as the bastard.

Fascism is the angry, militant one, who is honest and up front about being a control freak. Who's a 'realist' about the human nature to create hierarchies and the base nature of life being 'war.'

Socialism is the passive aggressive, 'compassionate' twin. The liar, grifter, and hustler centralizing power underneath themselves all for 'the greater good.' Who publicly looks up to big brother Communism and tries to use all the same buzzwords, but secretly loves their twin, the shunned Fascism, and cribs from their notes.
 
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ATP

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Nazism allowed for a lot of private owned stuff, even if the Nazis preferred big consolidated private companies they could control easier.
It was more like socialism for Germans and such, rather than full on communism.
Well,tose property produced what state decide to made.

Don't think you'll get through to ATP with facts. The man is, and I don't use this sort of term often, a raging Polack who wants Germany and Russia dismembered so that a Greater Poland can be established and rule over Central Europe. The man would have cheered and thrown a parade if the Morgenthau Plan had been enacted.



Makes the way that Germans and Germany was treated in the immediate aftermath of World War 2 make a lot more sense, doesn't it? In terms of the excesses and starvation of the average soldier and civilian suffered through.

Much more then the idea that the allies were simply just 'unprepared'. Also shows what sort of people FDR and Churchill were- not that I had much respect left for either after digging through history more. The Nazis were scum, but the allies weren't so clean either, even without the triple-damned Soviets.

Nope,my german imperialist friend.
I simply want free Europe,where both soviets and germans could not decide what other people do on their territory.
If germans and soviets stopped trying to enslave us,i would forget about your and your allies existence.
 

ATP

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This will of course backfire because you have an entire younger generation already pissed off who are taking notes.
Optymist.But that is why i like you!

On another topic - dystopian reality in new polish goverment - they ,of course,want to mudrer babies,but it is not everytching - they want more working womans,especially in energy bussiness.And,of course,it must be green energy.
I see many polish womans making new windmills...or,to be preciste ,assemble old german windmills which our goverment would buy to help germans.

They,of course,would punish for "hate speech" ,too.

new leftist guru,Yuval Harari,as vegan belive that bigger crime is animal husbandry.But killing human babies and old people is OK.
By the way,did he thought what would taken to all farm animals,if we decide to not eat them? ..

One of reasons why i am pesymist - we see what oligarchs let us see - at least,as long as we use google.It used in 2023 63% info taken from leftis sources,but only 6 % from right.
 

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