Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

Cherico

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It's not a mask slip, it's a tactical choice. By talking openly about it they can counter the claim that there is a conspiracy. They can use that to gaslight people and slowly erode their morals and ideas, getting the average person to see this coup as normal instead of the absolutely horrendous thing it will be because "the news spoke like it was normal so it is". I also think they severely underestimate the public perception and the lower classes. The elites are so far inside their own asses they don't realize how retarded this is because they have surrounded themselves with yesmen and true believers who keep their own narrative bubble going and any threat to the narrative is expunged. They honestly believe that because CNN and other mainstream media is on their side they have the public opinion. They have not only learned nothing from 2016, they are doubling down.


are we heading into a civil war?
 

MelancholicMechanicus

Thought Criminal
It's not a certainty yet. Almost 2 months till the election, and thanks to Trump's push against mail-in voting and the constant feet shooting of the left with BLM the chances are we will have a clean cut result and this will end up in a similar way to 2004 Bush where he had a good margin. A number of theories have been put out and people who previously predicted the Trump win figure he is gonna be able to get a comfortable Electoral Vote and Popular vote margin that will make simple mail-in fraud hard to pull off.
 

Doomsought

Well-known member
are we heading into a civil war?
Yes.

The worst part is I think a civil war might be the best possible outcome. Because if progressives keep moving forward with their goals, it will be much worse than millions dead. At the speed we are moving, even with Trump pulling the brakes, we are four years or less from pedophiles openly being put in classrooms.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
It's not a certainty yet. Almost 2 months till the election, and thanks to Trump's push against mail-in voting and the constant feet shooting of the left with BLM the chances are we will have a clean cut result and this will end up in a similar way to 2004 Bush where he had a good margin. A number of theories have been put out and people who previously predicted the Trump win figure he is gonna be able to get a comfortable Electoral Vote and Popular vote margin that will make simple mail-in fraud hard to pull off.

This really is the best possible result at this point. It's also the most likely possible result at this point. The Dems already running stories about how 'it'll look like Trump won, but actually Biden will have run,' that scares me. Because that's a fairly blatant attempt to pre-justify them taking as long as they need to fabricate as many votes as they think they need.
 

Typhonis

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I do wonder how the Dems will react IF the Red Mirage turns out to be true? No states flip red to blue thanks to what has been happening.
 

JagerIV

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Yeah, the problem with a civil war is you need two sides to fight it. And I'm not sure the Right is organized enough or in the right headspace to fight one. So, if the Democrats win big, I see, and fear, much more a one sided curb stomping as the Democrats work to purge any last possible source of opposition against mostly token resistance.

Basically, we have to win, because the Right's not in a position to fight.
 

Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
Founder
Yeah, the problem with a civil war is you need two sides to fight it. And I'm not sure the Right is organized enough or in the right headspace to fight one. So, if the Democrats win big, I see, and fear, much more a one sided curb stomping as the Democrats work to purge any last possible source of opposition against mostly token resistance.

Basically, we have to win, because the Right's not in a position to fight.
What would it take to give the Right the will to fight, to kill, to win?
 

Doomsought

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No we are not. Only people living in Blue States and Blue Cities think we are on the verge of a Civil War. This shit is not as bad as it was during the Late 60s and Early 70s.
That is what a modern civil war looks like, fighting in the cities. And it is worse than the 60's and 70's, the riots back then did not have the backing of state and city governments. That is the only importent distinction, when political vilence has the backing of local government then you have a civil ware brewing.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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No we are not. Only people living in Blue States and Blue Cities think we are on the verge of a Civil War. This shit is not as bad as it was during the Late 60s and Early 70s.
And what happens if Trump wins, but Blue State govs refuse accept his authority because they feel the election was stolen from Biden? Or what happens if the election is stolen from Trump via vote fraud and swampy BS, do you think we won't be purged by the Left or 'deplatformed' from society at large? Particularly those moderates and classical liberals who walked away from the Dems, that will be viewed as traitors to the new regime?

I truly hope this do won't devolve into a civil war, but I do not take anything for granted anymore after the way Covid has set our nation back and the way th Dems/there allies have harnessed as a political weapon. Add in BLM bullshit in schools and the way the SJWs have corpoate backing, the way the media and ex-Pentagon officials/people have been trying to soft-coup Trump via lies since day one, and how the CCP is basically controlling the Dems now. The fucking CDC, on org most people never had reason to doubt, completely fucked up it's handling of...pretty much everything.

Look, I get people who don't to live in Dem/Purple areas may not understand what the mentality is that the Far-Left/Establishment-minded have, but some of us do live in those areas. They don't have access to, or want to see, the info we see and have, they want Trump gone at any cost. Some of us have to deal with 'anything to beat Trump' people in our own families, and the reality that we live in hostile territory politically, and that we cannot uproot our lives and change states before Nov. 3rd.

I joked about a civil war happening when/if a GOP candidate got into the Oval again during the Obama/Romney election, back before my blinders were pulled off. I understand the mindset we are fighting against, and how little these people care about the truth if it helps Trump. They would sooner accept a 'palace coup' than deal with the fact Trump represents more of America than they do.
 

Sailor.X

Cold War Veteran
Founder
That is what a modern civil war looks like, fighting in the cities. And it is worse than the 60's and 70's, the riots back then did not have the backing of state and city governments. That is the only importent distinction, when political vilence has the backing of local government then you have a civil ware brewing.
And what happens if Trump wins, but Blue State govs refuse accept his authority because they feel the election was stolen from Biden? Or what happens if the election is stolen from Trump via vote fraud and swampy BS, do you think we won't be purged by the Left or 'deplatformed' from society at large? Particularly those moderates and classical liberals who walked away from the Dems, that will be viewed as traitors to the new regime?

I truly hope this do won't devolve into a civil war, but I do not take anything for granted anymore after the way Covid has set our nation back and the way th Dems/there allies have harnessed as a political weapon. Add in BLM bullshit in schools and the way the SJWs have corpoate backing, the way the media and ex-Pentagon officials/people have been trying to soft-coup Trump via lies since day one, and how the CCP is basically controlling the Dems now. The fucking CDC, on org most people never had reason to doubt, completely fucked up it's handling of...pretty much everything.

Look, I get people who don't to live in Dem/Purple areas may not understand what the mentality is that the Far-Left/Establishment-minded have, but some of us do live in those areas. They don't have access to, or want to see, the info we see and have, they want Trump gone at any cost. Some of us have to deal with 'anything to beat Trump' people in our own families, and the reality that we live in hostile territory politically, and that we cannot uproot our lives and change states before Nov. 3rd.

I joked about a civil war happening when/if a GOP candidate got into the Oval again during the Obama/Romney election, back before my blinders were pulled off. I understand the mindset we are fighting against, and how little these people care about the truth if it helps Trump. They would sooner accept a 'palace coup' than deal with the fact Trump represents more of America than they do.
You might want to check out some of the laws that were put in place after the end of the US Civil War. The Laws are already on the books to deal with a Democrats going crazy scenario. And it will not be pretty for the side trying to start one. Deep down those in power know what will happen to THEM if they try and pull that trigger. The ball would be in Trumps court and they know it.
 

Duke Nukem

Hail to the king baby
And what happens if Trump wins, but Blue State govs refuse accept his authority because they feel the election was stolen from Biden? Or what happens if the election is stolen from Trump via vote fraud and swampy BS, do you think we won't be purged by the Left or 'deplatformed' from society at large? Particularly those moderates and classical liberals who walked away from the Dems, that will be viewed as traitors to the new regime?

I truly hope this do won't devolve into a civil war, but I do not take anything for granted anymore after the way Covid has set our nation back and the way th Dems/there allies have harnessed as a political weapon. Add in BLM bullshit in schools and the way the SJWs have corpoate backing, the way the media and ex-Pentagon officials/people have been trying to soft-coup Trump via lies since day one, and how the CCP is basically controlling the Dems now. The fucking CDC, on org most people never had reason to doubt, completely fucked up it's handling of...pretty much everything.

Look, I get people who don't to live in Dem/Purple areas may not understand what the mentality is that the Far-Left/Establishment-minded have, but some of us do live in those areas. They don't have access to, or want to see, the info we see and have, they want Trump gone at any cost. Some of us have to deal with 'anything to beat Trump' people in our own families, and the reality that we live in hostile territory politically, and that we cannot uproot our lives and change states before Nov. 3rd.

I joked about a civil war happening when/if a GOP candidate got into the Oval again during the Obama/Romney election, back before my blinders were pulled off. I understand the mindset we are fighting against, and how little these people care about the truth if it helps Trump. They would sooner accept a 'palace coup' than deal with the fact Trump represents more of America than they do.

Yes. the Democrats are getting more and more desperate,who knows what they'll try next, i wouldn't be surprised if there's an increase in left wing mass shootings soon.
 

Doomsought

Well-known member
You might want to check out some of the laws that were put in place after the end of the US Civil War. The Laws are already on the books to deal with a Democrats going crazy scenario. And it will not be pretty for the side trying to start one. Deep down those in power know what will happen to THEM if they try and pull that trigger. The ball would be in Trumps court and they know it.
That is the dumbest possible argument.

Laws don't matter. War is above the law.

Edit: You can't legislate away an enforcement problem, war is the ultimate enforcement problem. They have already broken multiple laws, and the laws are not being enforced.
 

Sailor.X

Cold War Veteran
Founder
That is the dumbest possible argument.

Laws don't matter. War is above the law.
Sigh. The President would have the power to literally throw all of them in chains. And it would be completely legal. Yes there is laws in regard to war. And how to stamp out one from forming. Really people need to actually do a read of the stuff that are on the books. Just got to your local library some time.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
You might want to check out some of the laws that were put in place after the end of the US Civil War. The Laws are already on the books to deal with a Democrats going crazy scenario. And it will not be pretty for the side trying to start one. Deep down those in power know what will happen to THEM if they try and pull that trigger. The ball would be in Trumps court and they know it.
And look at how many laws have been ignored/sidelined/selectively enforced to target Trump/the GOP since he entered office?

Look at how many laws and rights are being eroded under the public health orders related to Covid, while things like the riots are allowed to happen while the media covers it as 'peaceful protests'?

Do you still truly think 'the law' or the Constitution will protect us or Trump if the swamp decides it wants him gone, regardless of the wishes of the American people?
 
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