Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Democrats are already guilty of blatant violations of the constitution .
Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow
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Democrats are already guilty of blatant violations of the constitution .
Again perception is reality. Remember when you pull a trigger it is not to people on the internet who discuss this stuff multiple times a day. You must do it when the Joe average person who is not on the internet all day and works a day in day out job. Those are the ones you need to convince when you do it. I have to state this one more time for everyone here. We are in an Echo Chamber just as much as the left is. Don't assume what you see and what the general public see is the same thing. If and when the trigger is pulled it would be for something obvious to the General Public not just us.
Your word in God's ear, I really don't want to see the worst come to pass.
Because things weren't chaotic enough, there is now evidence the Democrats are honestly planning a complete shitshow if they don't get it their way.
Democrats' 'War Game' for Election Includes West Coast Secession, Possible Civil War
Democrats are contemplating the secession of the West Coast and potential civil war as they play "war games" for a closely contested election.www.breitbart.com
This is the article they are talking about. The fact the NYT published this as a ending paragraph without ANYONE stopping and saying "wait do you guys realize how fucking serious this would be?" is baffling.
A couple of issues.
First, is the fact that the House itself may not support Pelosi:
Pollak: How Pelosi's House of Representatives Could Re-elect Trump
If the Electoral College cannot decide, the House does. And each state, not member, casts a vote. Republicans have more members in 26 states.
www.breitbart.com
To quote:
Unless a state delegation went rogue, then Trump would at worst lose 26 to 24 and most possibly by 27 to 23. If the White House and the Senate support Trump as president and if then a House vote would come up in favor of Trump, the Democrats would have no positive claim on the White House.
More notably
California, Oregon, and Washington lack the means of seceding from the Union. And the mere fact that they can't count on any but those three states to secede is rather telling just how weak their hand actually is.
A good take. I agree it is a better strategy to avoid the debates and look weak, on the pretense of being too moral to be debate Trump, but I think there is a deeper dimension that most people don't take into account; Kenya West is technically running for President. Now, we are all probably right in assuming he can't possibly win, even if he pulls a few electors to his side.
However, if Biden doesn't show up, then Trump can still hold the debates. That changes the frame; instead of Biden looking weak to avoid looking completely incapable and incompetent, the new frame will be that Joe Biden isn't even serious about running against Trump. Because the frame as most people understand it is that whoever the people debating in September and October are, they are the two people running. So if Biden ducks out, then the natural frame is that the race is actually between Trump and West, not Trump and Biden.
The media will try and counter that narrative, but the fact is that Trump has tradition on his side; people will watch the debates. In fact, people will watch simply to see who will make the bigger ass out of themselves. The level of damage that can do to the Democrat narrative is deep. So deep in fact, that I suspect that if Trump does make this move and he does debate West, then Biden and his team will be forced to attend the other debates, while demanding special treatment. Because if they don't, no amount of voter fraud is going to save them or delay a Trump victory.
West will steal so many votes from Biden that those marginal push victories that any cheater might try to slide into the system will not make up for their losses. That's on top of the socialists not being willing to vote and rioting instead. Letting Trump set the narrative with West would be the greatest political disaster within the past 4 years for the Democrats.
Bigking321
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A trump/west debate?
I hadn't even thought of that.
That would be fascinating.
I hadn't even thought of that.
That would be fascinating.
MelancholicMechanicus
Thought Criminal
Ye would be massively more coherent than Biden. We might even get a single out of it.
Yinko
Well-known member
In 2016 Trump lost the popular election by 3m votes, that's about or 4% of the voting population at the time. That doesn't seem like a lot to me. Given what we've seen with increases in Black and Hispanic support recently, what do you think are the chances of him winning both the popular and electoral?
I ask, because one of the main assumptions the Democrats have about opposing Trump is that he will lose the popular vote, which they will then use to contest him in various ways. If he wins by both metrics, their position to contest becomes a lot weaker.
I ask, because one of the main assumptions the Democrats have about opposing Trump is that he will lose the popular vote, which they will then use to contest him in various ways. If he wins by both metrics, their position to contest becomes a lot weaker.
MelancholicMechanicus
Thought Criminal
America is a republic, not a democracy. The Dems can cry all they want but the fact is the system is working exactly as it was meant to: keep the huge population centers from controlling the entire country. You can't ignore the rules and then cry when the opponent won't accept your monopoly get out of jail card in poker.
As for the assumption Trump can't win the popular vote, that is based on nothing but wishing. They simply cannot accept that Trump might win fair and square. They are already rationalizing for that because it's the only way they can see him winning at all.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Trump should do that. Biden is out but he still needs someone to debate and West can be sounded out to see if he has what it takes once Trump is out of office if he suceeds and finishes his second term.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
If their credentials are good then why not?
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
There's basically no reason whatsoever to think that Trump hasn't increased, rather than decreased, in popularity with most demographics.
Biden, on the other hand, has basically nothing that Hillary didn't have, except for visible mental deterioration. And unlike Hillary, he doesn't have the gender card.
We are very likely looking at a landslide. Nothing is certain until election day, but this is absolutely the direction we're heading in. If God smiles on us, we may get a massive crackdown on voter fraud as well.
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
Babylon Bee beat you to it.
Brilliant Trump Puts Himself On All Postage Stamps, Forcing Democrats To Push For Abolishing USPS
WASHINGTON, D.C.—Sources are reporting that Trump has dealt a killer blow in his ongoing war against his sworn enemy, the U.S. Post Office. In a move of sheer, mind-blowing brilliance, Trump directed the Post Office to put his face on every single stamp, forcing the Democrats to reverse course...
babylonbee.com
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
He's doing this too.Babylon Bee beat you to it.
Brilliant Trump Puts Himself On All Postage Stamps, Forcing Democrats To Push For Abolishing USPS
WASHINGTON, D.C.—Sources are reporting that Trump has dealt a killer blow in his ongoing war against his sworn enemy, the U.S. Post Office. In a move of sheer, mind-blowing brilliance, Trump directed the Post Office to put his face on every single stamp, forcing the Democrats to reverse course...
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Joe Rogan offered to be the moderator for a livestream debate. Joe can't slip out of this one.
