If it takes so long as to be worthless, then it's the equivalent of nothing happening.
Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow
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Vyor
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It takes long because it's a bad idea to rush things because going fast can be abused.
Karmic Acumen
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See, these words are empty now because going slow is clearly what's being abused now. Also, a lot of stuff is going too fast anyway, where it counts. At this point this is like saying don't rush the turtle when the rabbit has already won the race twenty times over.
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Justice delayed is justice denied.
The key thing to realize is looking to the courts for help with an election is near futile. You need laws securing the election: stop absentee/early voting ballots solves nearly all of the problem. Otherwise, the court is basically helpless against ballot stuffing unless you catch it red handed.
Fortunately, in the US, this is actually doable, as we don't care if NY or CA cheat massively because the electoral college stops the popular vote from mattering.
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willdelve4beer
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On one hand, the whole "let's change the rules mid-election to favor our side" was rancid crap. On the other , looking back on America's actual election history, all the way back to the colonial and immediate post-colonial period, it hasn't been nearly the wonderful tale we were taught in school. Corruption, cheating, deceit, manipulation, ballot stuffing, and all sorts of chicanery have been around since before the Declaration of Independence.
That people are noticing and getting angry about it, because at least a sizable portion expect better, is actually a notable improvement. Whether that anger will actually translate into an electoral system which promptly, accurately, and without bias tracks and reports the summation of individual citizen choices is to be determined.
That people are noticing and getting angry about it, because at least a sizable portion expect better, is actually a notable improvement. Whether that anger will actually translate into an electoral system which promptly, accurately, and without bias tracks and reports the summation of individual citizen choices is to be determined.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
My good man, there are rules to these sorts of things.
Everything proceeds at a glacial pace…or it all happens at once.
There is nothing in between, and I’ll be damned if I can tell you which order they come in. One can only ride through the motions of history.
Historial inertia is an absolute bitch Sov, just an absolute bitch.
DarthOne
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VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
Fun times in Washington...
DarthOne
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TlDR?
Yeah can we get a Tl;Dw please?
VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
it's just four minutes worth of audio... so no, either watch it and be informed or don't and be blind. your choice.
This is a forum, not a video site. It's considered polite to summarize videos rather than just posting content. And that ignores the fact that a ton of those kinds of videos take forever to say something simple, making them a huge waste of time in terms of actually providing information.
If people wanted to watch videos, they would be on YouTube, not here.
VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
Well typically it is considered lazy to not take four minutes to watch the actual footage of of the cloth being ripped off infront of them. I can't force someone to watch the Truth. What I can do is bring it to someone's attention.
If you watched LB's video you would see he shuts up and lets the evidence talk, which is far better than a TLDR. I would rather see the evidence with my own eyes and ears then have someone else do it for me.
Just post a tl;dw.
strunkenwhite
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Leaked audio, played uninterrupted from 1:01 to 5:55 of the video, in which some clown explicitly asks Lake to delay her campaign by 2 years (AZ does not have a US Senate seat up for reelection in 2026, making this specific timeframe an odd ask) implying or stating that she can get some kind of sinecure in the meantime and "refill your coffers" (unclear if this meant via regular fundraising or as part of the payoff)
Given that the accused party DeWit resigned rather than "face the relase of a new, more damaging recording" which he says Lake's team threatened to do if he refused to resign, this audio seems legit. But I think it's very hilarious that Lake's team then denied threatening him. I think the most likely scenario there is that nobody threatened him in a way that would lead to a court conviction.
For the full audio, which this is only half of for whatever reason, start 14 seconds into this video instead:
Bigking321
Well-known member
I'll give a tl:dw a shot.
It's the recording of the establishment guy trying to bribe Kari Lake not to run. Admitting they think the election was stolen and could be again. And if the guy ever spoke out against his higher ranked masters he would probably die to a car bomb.
I didn't listen to more than 5 seconds but that's what it's about, right?
It's the recording of the establishment guy trying to bribe Kari Lake not to run. Admitting they think the election was stolen and could be again. And if the guy ever spoke out against his higher ranked masters he would probably die to a car bomb.
I didn't listen to more than 5 seconds but that's what it's about, right?
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
If you can't be bothered to take thirty seconds to type a summary, why do you expect people to spend four minutes watching a video of unknown content?
strunkenwhite
Well-known member
I think Lake said both of those things, unless I'm misremembering [I was]. He was more saying (not actual quote) "We don't have faith Trump will win the election, and we also think he's costing us fundraising and possibly bad for business as well."
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VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
If they won't take their time to watch a video then why should I take my time to write a summary? Why waste my time on someone who won't take the time to educate themselves? I am no educator, I brought a piece of information to the board and it is ignored. Watch it or do not, that is up to you.