First COVID, now this? (Potential Leak at Chinese Nuclear Power Plant)

[CurtisLemay]

EXCLUSIVE: US assessing reported leak at Chinese nuclear power facility

CNN EXCLUSIVE: The US government has spent the past week assessing a report of a leak at a Chinese nuclear power plant, after a French company that part owns and helps operate it warned of an 'imminent radiological threat.'

www.cnn.ph

What is it with communism and industrial accidents? I mean I should know the answer, but this is kinda getting to be the same old story.

 

[Tiamat]

“Safety standards Comrade, what are those? We have the indomitable will of the Proletariat!”

 

[LordsFire]

Now to be fair, Commies aren't the only ones to have problems at nuclear plants.

Of course, only the commies have had one as bad as Chernobyl. I wonder how this one will compare?

 

[Free-Stater 101]

This is in no way surprising! What's next a meltdown at a U.S. plant?


"Nuclear Winter Is Coming"

 

[Bacle]

 

[Cherico]

this isn't the bullet that will take the CCP down, it doesn't help but its just one crisis amongst many to come and honestly the chinese dont give a shit what other countries think of them expecially countries they feel are weaker then they are.

 

[History Learner]

EXCLUSIVE: US assessing reported leak at Chinese nuclear power facility

CNN EXCLUSIVE: The US government has spent the past week assessing a report of a leak at a Chinese nuclear power plant, after a French company that part owns and helps operate it warned of an 'imminent radiological threat.'

www.cnn.ph

What is it with communism and industrial accidents? I mean I should know the answer, but this is kinda getting to be the same old story.

The whole Anti-China schtick is starting to reach "We've Always Been At War With East Asia" levels of silliness. American infrastructure is routinely being rated at C, D or F levels, and in the last few years we've had numerous disasters, from the near collapse of the Oroville Dam to the Upper Big Branch Mine disaster. Attacking China in that context serves no purpose and rather seems inorganic, designed to distract from the pressing issues here in the States themselves. How about instead of using that energy to attack the Chinese-for absolutely no gain to you or them, mind you-and instead place towards organizing for infrastructure improvements here in the United States? If owning the Commies is that important to you, rather than impotently make fun of them on the internet, mobilize to build an infrastructure system for Americans and by Americans that is second to none.

 

[LordsFire]

The whole Anti-China schtick is starting to reach "We've Always Been At War With East Asia" levels of silliness. American infrastructure is routinely being rated at C, D or F levels, and in the last few years we've had numerous disasters, from the near collapse of the Oroville Dam to the Upper Big Branch Mine disaster. Attacking China in that context serves no purpose and rather seems inorganic, designed to distract from the pressing issues here in the States themselves. How about instead of using that energy to attack the Chinese-for absolutely no gain to you or them, mind you-and instead place towards organizing for infrastructure improvements here in the United States? If owning the Commies is that important to you, rather than impotently make fun of them on the internet, mobilize to build an infrastructure system for Americans and by Americans that is second to none.

Just out of curiosity, who do you think has a better infrastructure system to the US?

 

[History Learner]

Just out of curiosity, who do you think has a better infrastructure system to the US?

Roughly 11 other countries, if you don't count Hong Kong.

 

[LordsFire]

Roughly 11 other countries, if you don't count Hong Kong.

Linking to a site with a paywall doesn't help much.

Also, from what I could see, it was rating Singapore as the #1. If we're looking at a set of 'better than the US' that consists of city-states and micronations, that isn't a meaningful comparison. Of course, I can't see the list, so I don't know if Singapore and Hong Kong are outliers or not.

 

[History Learner]

Linking to a site with a paywall doesn't help much.

Also, from what I could see, it was rating Singapore as the #1. If we're looking at a set of 'better than the US' that consists of city-states and micronations, that isn't a meaningful comparison. Of course, I can't see the list, so I don't know if Singapore and Hong Kong are outliers or not.

Statista gives a free number of graphs viewable per like a week or month basis; forgive me for assuming you still had the amount available. An older list is available here, from 2018; you'll find major nations such as Germany, the UK, Japan and others upon it.

 

[LordsFire]

Statista gives a free number of graphs viewable per like a week or month basis; forgive me for assuming you still had the amount available. An older list is available here, from 2018; you'll find major nations such as Germany, the UK, Japan and others upon it.

Okay, that's a reasonably fair list. Some of those are tiny nations or city-states but not all. Counting out Belgium, Singapore, and Hong Kong, you still have the US at 11th. Could use some improvement.

Of course, I have no idea what their ranking system is like, but I have no particular reason to think the US must have the best in the world. We certainly have our own issues.

 

[History Learner]

Okay, that's a reasonably fair list. Some of those are tiny nations or city-states but not all. Counting out Belgium, Singapore, and Hong Kong, you still have the US at 11th. Could use some improvement.

Of course, I have no idea what their ranking system is like, but I have no particular reason to think the US must have the best in the world. We certainly have our own issues.

Why should we not have the best? However, taking that at face value, why complain about China's? If the competition in infrastructure is meaningless, focusing in on China's doesn't really make much sense.

 

[LordsFire]

Why should we not have the best? However, taking that at face value, why complain about China's? If the competition in infrastructure is meaningless, focusing in on China's doesn't really make much sense.

There's no good reason we shouldn't have the best, but we have some corruption problems of our own. California and a number of 'machine politics' cities are particularly notorious for corruption in infrastructure spending.

The difference compared to China, is that China has a 'face' culture, where they can't admit mistakes or corruption, while in the US, if someone is trying to cover up a mistake or corruption, it's usually just to save their own hide, and once it's out in the open, it'll generally actually be dealt with.

Note that the Hoover Dam has been up for much longer than the Three Gorges Dam, and there's no worry about it suddenly imploding.

 

[Robovski]

Well, it's also expensive to build up a country the size of the US to even UK levels.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

SNIP

It isnt about attacking China or them being commies, it's about keeping momentum, for the past twenty years and despite us naysayers giving any and all warning, politicians have continued to parrot the ever popular corporate slogans of.

"China is our friend!"

"Allowing China into the WTO only benefits the U.S.!"

"China will 'reform' if we open ourselves to them for trade."

And many more excuses, the U.S. can't keep turning a blind eye to patent theft, currency manipulation, and China continuing to advance its agenda on the world stage.

You say we should stop worrying and focus on the roads? 'I' say why not complain about both?

After all, every president back to Clinton has said they would 'improve infrastructure' and yet here we still are, those bridges are going to stand until people die because of them, politicians through their inactions on both sides make that clear.

In any case, I am glad that a majority of the American public is catching on to China's antics finally, even if they are just a 'distraction', they are still a more worthy one than the Middle east.

 

[Husky_Khan]

It's unfortunate that reporting the news coming out of China is considered Anti-China by some now. Sad.

I do like the immediate deflection back to America. The Chinese State Accounts on the Twitter do the same thing whenever Tiananmen Square, Hong Kong, Tiber or Uighers come up.

Also not sure what trade infrastructure has to do with power plants in China but whatever... Apparently in the time and effort it takes a person to make a thread on a forum, you could've mobilized your entire nation into reinvesting in your own infrastructure and make America #1. But instead your posting on a forum. It's impossible to do more then that.

 

[Cherico]

It isnt about attacking China or them being commies, it's about keeping momentum, for the past twenty years and despite us naysayers giving any and all warning, politicians have continued to parrot the ever popular corporate slogans of.

"China is our friend!"

"Allowing China into the WTO only benefits the U.S.!"

"China will 'reform' if we open ourselves to then for trade."

And many more excuses, the U.S. can't keep turning a blind eye to patend theft, currency manipulation, and China continuing to advance its agenda on the world stage.

You say we should stop worrying and focus on the roads? 'I' say why not complain about both?

After all, every president back to Clinton has said they would improve infrastructure and here we still are, those bridges are going to stand until people die because of them, politicians through actions on both sides make that clear.

In any case I am glad that a majority of the American public is catching on to China's antics finally, even if they are just a 'distraction', they are still a more worthy one than the Middle east.

The thing about chinese american relations is that there has always been this illusion that if things went a certain way we would have acess to their markets and our companies would get rich. But its always been an illusion, china has been a protectionist country for quite a bit of its history through multiple dynasties. Its a dream that never works out and I dont think it ever will.

 

[prinCZess]

I have a good degree of trust in the French to operate and oversee a nuclear facility. Good track record there. Hell, they may have a better record than the US or any other operator, on a scale basis if nothing else, thanks to the broad usage of nuclear power.

The CCP's safety authority undermines itself in the very story by tinkering with the standards in order to pass them (something I'm damn-sure willing to believe French associates over the mainland's regulatory agency on). That's an immediate piss-poor example of safety protocol even ignoring all other context of CCP infrastructure or standards (which are not good) or taking into account prior actions on the part of mainland agencies/individuals to avoid or shift blame (most recently most visible with Wuhan flu).

Hopefully they get a handle on the thing. Nuclear reactors going wrong has unfortunate tendency to have widespread area of affect (see: Chernobyl, Fukushima).

 

[Cherico]

I have a good degree of trust in the French to operate and oversee a nuclear facility. Good track record there. Hell, they may have a better record than the US or any other operator, on a scale basis if nothing else, thanks to the broad usage of nuclear power.

The CCP's safety authority undermines itself in the very story by tinkering with the standards in order to pass them (something I'm damn-sure willing to believe French associates over the mainland's regulatory agency on). That's an immediate piss-poor example of safety protocol even ignoring all other context of CCP infrastructure or standards (which are not good) or taking into account prior actions on the part of mainland agencies/individuals to avoid or shift blame (most recently most visible with Wuhan flu).

Hopefully they get a handle on the thing. Nuclear reactors going wrong has unfortunate tendency to have widespread area of affect (see: Chernobyl, Fukushima).

Fukushima was actually handled pretty well and honestly there was very little in the way of damage considering that the facility was hit by a mother fucking Tsunami we kind of owe the japanese people a lot of respect.

That said humanity has been handling nuclear power for over 70 years now, its not that hard to run a facility safely you just have to not be an idiot. I mean Chernobly only went back because the Russians went out and disobeyed safety standards on purpose.