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Breaking News Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses
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Exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. But they only do that stuff after a bridge gets taken out by a ship, apparently.
That’s a completely different type of bridge with different structural requirements.
Exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. But they only do that stuff after a bridge gets taken out by a ship, apparently.
The Skyway bridge collapsed in 1980, it would have required time travel to apply those lessons to the Key bridge which was built in 1972.
strunkenwhite
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Except by retrofitting.
But to be fair, it seems unlikely that those things would have deterred the inertia of a fully loaded container ship.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like you could add that stuff later, or anything.
Especially not in the span of 30 years.
One reason I'm not accepting the "this was just a freak accident where a whole number of things went wrong" explanation is that if it were true, then for every case where all of those things went wrong, there ought to be multiple cases in which only some of them did. How many times does it happen that a cargo ship loses control of where it's going and hits something that's not a critical part of a bridge? How many of them just run aground? Or don't hit anything but have to have tugs chase them and rescue?
Don't ask me to believe that the one time this sort of system failure occurred, the ship just happened to be pointing in the worst possible direction. That says "enemy action".
Don't ask me to believe that the one time this sort of system failure occurred, the ship just happened to be pointing in the worst possible direction. That says "enemy action".
It happens a lot actually.
The ship in the straight....
Most just go under the radar and don't get reported on because they don't do this much damage.
The ship in question has had incidents of hitting things before years ago
LordsFire
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Ships losing power isn't exactly 'frequent,' but it's perhaps 'uncommon.' Usually though, they're at sea, and that just means they drift for a bit before regaining power.
Particularly, there are 'problem ships' that have issues like this much more frequently than others, which the Dali was a known instance of. I've heard some word that things had gotten bad enough they should have had some substantial overhaul work done, but they decided to put that off to do at the next port; I've not seen enough sources on that to be fully sure about it yet.
If that is the case, the people who made that decision are going to be buried financially, and possibly end up on negligent manslaughter charges.
49ersfootball
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Wondering how long it'll take for the Francis Scott Key Bridge to be rebuilt ?
DarthOne
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Yeah, I mean, it's not like you could add that stuff later, or anything.
But that would mean politicians would have to spend money on infrastructure and not handing out gibs to their political constituents or lining their own pockets! Why, they wouldn’t be able to buy that fourth mansion they absolutely have to get!
You can’t re-do the bridge supports from standalone piers to collision resistant islands like the new Skyway Bridge has, because those are structural braces, not just like, bits of gravel agglomerated around the anchor piers.Yeah, I mean, it's not like you could add that stuff later, or anything.
DarthOne
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The more you know.
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"Huge Problem": Pentagon's Rapid Wartime Response Cargo Ships Trapped In Baltimore After Bridge Collapse | ZeroHedge
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That’s an interesting coincidence. Which I am not sure it is.
Quite often, as a matter of fact. It just doesn't generally make the news -- "ship loses power for a few hours while at sea, then repairs engines and continues on its way" is a complete non-news item, as is, "ship calls for aid from harbor tugboats and gets it".
Indeed, there's ports -- especially common in tourist heavy areas of Florida -- that have private fleets of high-speed response tugs that literally make their entire business in rescuing small to medium size powerboats that get in over their heads due to current and wind conditions being more difficult to manage than they look.
And ships running aground in or near harbors? That's a very common minor local news story. Here's an example. And another. And another. This one even hit a bridge.
Lord Sovereign
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Pretty sure it is a coincidence actually."Huge Problem": Pentagon's Rapid Wartime Response Cargo Ships Trapped In Baltimore After Bridge Collapse | ZeroHedge
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That’s an interesting coincidence. Which I am not sure it is.
Because unlike fiction, reality doesn't need to make sense.
RRF ships are inactive reserve vessels that are dispersed at a variety of major ports throughout the United States to be called up on an "as needed" basis. You're going to have RRF ships "trapped" in just about any major harbor, and it has very little effect since they're NOT actively used and they're widely dispersed.
Also, the spokesperson who "refused to confirm" how many RRF ships are in Baltimore probably just didn't have that information at hand, as the RRF ship locations are NOT in any way classified or concealed. There is in fact a published listing right on the U.S. Department of Transportation website, which lists four RRF ships in Baltimore: the roll-on/roll-off cargo ships Cape Washington and Cape Wrath, and the fast sealift ships Antares and Denebola.
Trying to play that up as a big deal is amusingly ridiculous.
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Lord Sovereign
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Right wing media really is just as filled with drama queens as left wing media, isn't it?