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German-Polish Eternal Friendship/Derangement Thread, No Reparations for Participation

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Pretty sure the Chinese aren’t going to make that much of a distinction between the UK and the rest of Europe/the West, especially given how we carved up China even more after the Boxer Rebellion.
China should've stayed cut up and under western control, but nooo, the USA had to get a bee under his bonnet over Colonialism...
 

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You have an over-inflated sense of your nation’s importance. Never mind that neither the USSR or the Nazis fell by Poland’s hand alone. Or even mostly by Poland’s hand.

Also, I’m American. We hardly need you Europeans in order to survive. Even less so once we get our house in order. NATO has outlived its purpose as far as I’m concerned. China is much more our problem then Putin’s attempt at being a cover-band for the USSR with a dash of Imperial Russia thrown in.

What nazis? GERMANS.Mythical Naziland never existed.
And Poland is weak country lead by naive idiots,and if we survive,it would be only by Grace of God and Holy Mother.Not thanks to our naive leader or total opposition who work for Berlin and Moscov.

But - we have germans here who belive in their nation genius.
Which is funny - they lost WW1 and WW2 thanks to their own stupidity,and if their deal with kgb worked they would be next to mass graves after us,becouse putin worshipp sralin,and sralin plan was to backstab his german allies and take entire Europe.

And now,those germans are falling as leader,and would become sultanate ruled by turks.All thanks to german stupidity.

So no,german do not need Poland to fall,their stupidity do that for us.

P.S Yes,we broke Enigma code - but,it not change fate of war.Without cracking Enigma USA would still win in 1946 dropping A bombs on germans.
And maybe we would not be given to soviets in that case.

P.S.S When both Moscov and Berlin fall,we would not need USA,too.
 

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Full agreement. Disgusting people. Like the "Holocaust reparations" exortion racket people.
If a Jew born in, say, 1980 demands that a German born that same year give him "reparations" for something that happened decades before either of them were born -- then he deserves a kick in the balls and a strong rejoinder to fuck off.

If you never owned slaves, you don't owe anybody "reparations" -- and certainly not to people who were never slaves. If you never gassed Jews, you don't owe anybody "reparations" -- and certainly not people who were born after Hitler blew his brains out. If you never invaded Poland, you don't owe anybody "reparations" -- and certainly not people who are just trying to cynically cash in on the victim olympics.

This should be comprehensible to anyone who isn't a complete lunatic and/or imbecile.
 
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If a Jew born in, say, 1980 demands that a German born that same year give him "reparations" for something that happened decades before either of them were born -- then he deserves a kick in the balls and a strong rejoinder to fuck off.

If you never owned slaves, you don't owe anybody "reparations" -- and certainly not to people who were never slaves. If you never gassed Jews, you don't owe anybody "reparations" -- and certainly not people who were born after Hitler blew his brains out. If you never invaded Poland, you don't deserve anybody "reparations" -- and certainly not people who are just trying to cynically cash in on the victim olympics.

This should be comprehensible to anyone who isn't a complete lunatic and/or imbecile.
Honestly Id rather have a fat and sleepy germany then an angry hungry one.

If germany became a boring place where pretty much nothing interesting happened that would be ideal.
 

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Honestly Id rather have a fat and sleepy germany then an angry hungry one.

If germany became a boring place where pretty much nothing interesting happened that would be ideal.
The "fat years" do tend to be the peaceful and complacent ones, yes. That's true everywhere. But as we both know, that brings its own problems, which then lead to a reversal. And of course, such a reversal isn't intrinsically bad, either. The slow death of stagnation is not a desirable fate; but neither is a turn to brutal militarism (to name an obvious "reaction" to such a situation).

I often say that the best is not to avoid the periodic turning and churning, but rather to avoid the worst excesses of any extreme. Do not sink too deeply into complacency, and do not swerve too far into fanaticism. Avoid progressive radicalism and all "revolutions", but don't try to arrest all change and evolution, either.

Sadly, balance is rarely found, and the errors of one extreme then invite the errors of another extreme.
 

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If a Jew born in, say, 1980 demands that a German born that same year give him "reparations" for something that happened decades before either of them were born -- then he deserves a kick in the balls and a strong rejoinder to fuck off.

If you never owned slaves, you don't owe anybody "reparations" -- and certainly not to people who were never slaves. If you never gassed Jews, you don't owe anybody "reparations" -- and certainly not people who were born after Hitler blew his brains out. If you never invaded Poland, you don't owe anybody "reparations" -- and certainly not people who are just trying to cynically cash in on the victim olympics.

This should be comprehensible to anyone who isn't a complete lunatic and/or imbecile.
Would be true - if germans do not keep polish stolen property,and use money taken from it to made their economical miracle.
 

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Would be true - if germans do not keep polish stolen property,and use money taken from it to made their economical miracle.
I see -- to my shocked surprise -- that communism still prevails in Poland. Collective guilt, as the name implies, is collectivism.

In any event, I assume you'll be clamouring to restore the Imperial German borders immediately? That you support the expulsion of Poles from the relevant regions, and the return of the descendants of the expelled Germans? After all, if we start with the collectivist claims, it can't all be going one way...
 

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I see -- to my shocked surprise -- that communism still prevails in Poland. Collective guilt, as the name implies, is collectivism.

In any event, I assume you'll be clamouring to restore the Imperial German borders immediately? That you support the expulsion of Poles from the relevant regions, and the return of the descendants of the expelled Germans? After all, if we start with the collectivist claims, it can't all be going one way...
Nope.
Borders were covered by our loses on East.
And not collective quilt - gave up what germans taken,that is all.
If state destroyed something in other state,must pay for it.Unless it cease to exist.
If Teresa Neuman was right and germans cease to exist,we would not demand reparation from Berlin sultanate.

P.S you forget,that germans first start two world wars,then lost it thanks to their stupidity.
Idiots who starts war and lost it thanks to their stupidity could not demand reparations.

Their victims can.
 

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As I stated to begin with: it's the exact same hypocrisy and truth-twisting that underpins all the "muh reparations!" movements. Thanks for proving that you're exactly like those BLM loonies when it comes to this matter. Except that instead of Trump Derangement Syndrome, it's... uh... Germany Derangement Syndrome.
 

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As I stated to begin with: it's the exact same hypocrisy and truth-twisting that underpins all the "muh reparations!" movements. Thanks for proving that you're exactly like those BLM loonies when it comes to this matter. Except that instead of Trump Derangement Syndrome, it's... uh... Germany Derangement Syndrome.
Yup.I go to burn some american town to prove that you are right.
Jokes aside - morality is the same for persons and states.That is why bandit who lost could not demand reparations,but his victim could.
 
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Yup.I go to burn some american town to prove that you are right.
Jokes aside - morality is the same for persons and states.That is why bandit who lost could not demand reparations,but his victim could.
By your logic, the grand-children of a rape victim can demand payment from the grand-children of a rapist. Despite the fact that they themselves were never raped, the people they're trying to loot have never raped anyone, and neither of them were even alive when it happened.

That's how insane your idea is.
 

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By your logic, the grand-children of a rape victim can demand payment from the grand-children of a rapist. Despite the fact that they themselves were never raped, the people they're trying to loot have never raped anyone, and neither of them were even alive when it happened.

That's how insane your idea is.
Nope.We are taking about state crimes.
As long as person is alive,is responsible for his/her crimes.When die,his/her children,unless keep victim property,could not be sued.
The same goes for state - as long as unite germany exist,they must pay for their crimes.
But,if other state replace them,we would not demand reparations from turks or kurds.
 

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Nope.We are taking about state crimes.
As long as person is alive,is responsible for his/her crimes.When die,his/her children,unless keep victim property,could not be sued.
The same goes for state - as long as unite germany exist,they must pay for their crimes.
But,if other state replace them,we would not demand reparations from turks or kurds.
See? You are a communist, you think in collectives. "The state" is a fiction. In reality, the children and grandcildren have to pay-- which you already admitted is wrong. You're just being a hypocrite because you turn insane whenever anything involves Germany.

Pure Germany Derangement Syndrome.
 

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See? You are a communist, you think in collectives. "The state" is a fiction. In reality, the children and grandcildren have to pay-- which you already admitted is wrong. You're just being a hypocrite because you turn insane whenever anything involves Germany.

Pure Germany Derangement Syndrome.
Nope.State is not fiction - germans from 1939 stealed in Poland for german state,not themselves.And those who try that was punished/unless they were Goering and his friends/
They had even list of works of arts from polish museums and homes which they stolen - for germany,not themselves.

Paing would be wrong,if i try to get money from son of thief who do not gave stolen goods to his son.
 

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But,if other state replace them,we would not demand reparations from turks or kurds.
Yeah. Because you are a pussy who will avoid provoking people willing to fight back. Poor little poland will get crushed by pissed turks, and deep down you know it, fuckhead. You better pray Germany does not get replaced.
 

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Yeah. Because you are a pussy who will avoid provoking people willing to fight back. Poor little poland will get crushed by pissed turks, and deep down you know it, fuckhead. You better pray Germany does not get replaced.
Nope,my friend.
German state genocided us,not turkish or kurdish.So,we would not want from them money for german crimes.
We have nothing against Kurds,and althought we fought turks 439 years ago,we are clear with them.
And only they,Persia and Vatican do not recognized crime of Partition.

Of course,if they attack us on our lands,we would kill them,but - they could do whatever they like in Berlin.
After how austrians and prussians thanked us forVienna we would not save germans anymore.
 

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Official government data has revealed that nearly 893,000 out of the 1.6 million migrants who arrived in Germany during the migrant crisis of 2015-2016, still live on social welfare benefits.
The employment agency’s report also notes that 670,000 asylum seekers are either out of work or are currently looking for work, with 235,000 unemployed and 437,000 searching for employment. From both groups, 11% possess professional qualifications, about 4% of whom have professional training while the other 7% have academic training.
Almost two-thirds (65%) of Syrian refugees in Germany of working-age were at least partially dependent on the social welfare scheme

As the number of foreigners in Germany has risen, so have welfare payments dispensed to them over the past 12 years.


On top of the demographic threat they pose, the ‘new Germans’ have driven up crime, and take more in welfare than they give back to the country.
If we start "removing" them, do not stop us.

more whining
Fuck you, I hope your entire nation burns in Hell. We will not lift a damn finger to save your worthless hides when Russia goes for you.
 

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Fuck you, I hope your entire nation burns in Hell. We will not lift a damn finger to save your worthless hides when Russia goes for you.
All in all, your help is so helpful to us that it's actually a good thing that you don't want to help us, less problems.
And as for wishing we would burn in hell, we were there thanks to you. We survived it, we survived the Soviet Hell.
We will survive this new "hell" as well.
And whether to behave decently, or simply to squeeze our reparations out of you in some time is another matter.
The Russians didn't give us back what we should have gotten, well we turn to you back because the middleman failed. If you don't want to pay, force the Russians to do so as they failed to fulfill their obligations after WWII.
 
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