Because I don't want people who are in prison or have severe Alzheimer's disease such that they can't recognize reality to have firearms. I also don't think Alzheimer's patients should be able to vote (or run for President). I'm also not real keen on illegal immigrants coming across the border and purchasing guns immediately, I can see that being a terrorism threat.
As a person who has had to deal with actual crazy people (Some of them Violent}. I don't want them to have guns either. Facts are not all people with mental illness like to take their meds. And some when they tweek it is very bad as in assaulting people bad. So yeah no guns for the crazies.
A fair point, you can add ten year olds to the list of people I feel justified in infringing gun (and voting) rights to.Honestly the same limitations I'd have on voting rights. Which is something I like to tease the left with when they make noises about giving ex-cons the right to vote again.
Who decides what a crazy person is?
Well I'd prefer me but as I probably don't have time for the whole country by myself, it'll have to be delegated.
Well letting people who are currently in prison have weapons is a bad idea because they might use them to escape. I have a question why ban ex cons? Now if you don’t trust them to not commit violent crimes why the fuck did you let them out of jail. That would be the dumbest thing. Like prison has a few uses to punish, to deter, and to rehabilitate and prevent that person from reoffending. What is the point of letting them out to just pick them up later? I will agree with you on the mentally handicapped though.
Umm why are we allowing crazies to wander the streets? Wouldn’t it be better to institutionalize them?
Because prison terms are limited, not indefinite with a "We'll let you out when we trust you." clause, and because not all mental conditions are so bad as to require full time monitoring. Many can be controlled by medication, that can be forgotten or refused. The idea of locking up everyone you don't trust with a gun, either in a prison or an institution is unethical and way too prone to abuse.
Ex-Cons, I'll note, aren't on my list and I don't approve of denying someone who's paid their debt to society any of their rights. Obviously current prisoners are different.
Note allowing people you don’t trust ANY rights freedom life liberty pursuit of happiness is a bad idea in my book. They will use that to hurt you. I mean saying armed robbery is worth 10 years is arbitrary as hell why not 20 or 30 or 5? Where is the logic?
While the line is arbitrary, it has to be drawn somewhere and we have to have some penalty for armed robbery. We can debate where it should be but most people will agree it has to exist.
So... You've said you don't trust people with mental health issues with a gun. You've said anyone you don't trust with a gun shouldn't be allowed a right to life. So, should we shoot the autistic, or use gas chambers to save on bullet costs? How impaired does my senile grandma need to get before we execute her? What about those with low IQ?
I actually agree that it can be an issue, but those are some bad hypotheticals. Like, yes people with depression should be kept apart from the easiest, most lethal method of suicide. Depending on severity PTSD can absolutely be something that should stop you being armed. I mean, the armed forces will refuse to trust you with a gun for exactly that reason! I wouldn't trust someone with an IQ that makes them equivalent to a 5 year old to wander the streets with a gun anymore than I'd trust an actual 5 year old.
Please don’t strawman me when I say mentally ill I refer to school shooter types not people with ocd. I mean we don’t wait until after a terrorist attacks before we stop them we would ideally catch them before they enter the country and if not that before build the bomb. Why not take the same option with serial killers?
