Blasterbot
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Pile on the sandbags. don't build in a flood plain. dig dikes and you can divert a river.Then how do we fight it and win?
Pile on the sandbags. don't build in a flood plain. dig dikes and you can divert a river.Then how do we fight it and win?
Small steps. Don't let the appeal of the Left take people.Have fun with that. It doesn't work, unless you want to hand leftists everything they wanted by establishing an authoritarian state.
You won't even get your revenge, btw, as the leftists will rebrand themselves as part of the state, and you'll get tossed aside once the authoritarianism is established.
Set up your own incentive structure. The good thing is that reality has a great bias in favor of this, as right wing ideas work. These also already exist (religion is a huge one). This means you need to a) go out and actually do work that motivates this, whether that be community organizing or teaching kids values or whatever. More, you need to encourage others to do this. Create culture that is hostile to communism but also open to people to join. Stuff like this.
Only problem with trying to be defensive on the part of the right is that their own fortress mentality would be exploited by the left. My solution, as you pointed out, won't work in the long run. Catch-22 situation.Have fun with that. It doesn't work, unless you want to hand leftists everything they wanted by establishing an authoritarian state.
You won't even get your revenge, btw, as the leftists will rebrand themselves as part of the state, and you'll get tossed aside once the authoritarianism is established.
Nah, see, it's not about the organization. It's about the incentives and individual. There doesn't need to be some perfect organization, just be better at subverting.Your other solution can only work if the new system is immune to infiltration and subversion.
As someone in the military, shit talking commies is part of my language.Nah, see, it's not about the organization. It's about the incentives and individual. There doesn't need to be some perfect organization, just be better at subverting.
That's how the US won the cold war btw. For all the complaints about commie infiltration, the US did a ton better at subverting and controlling the USSR's culture. Coke, Pepsi, and McDonalds in the Red Square are great examples of this, but also black market records on x-rays, etc.
Stop thinking in terms of organizations. Start thinking in terms of individual actions you can do to foster a climate of Capitalism. I wear procapitalist t-shirts, casually use "commie" as a slur in regular language, etc. Don't just do this in rights circles: do this in lefty ones. I'm not saying to be an asshole about it, just be solid about it when asked, and adapt the message to the group.
For example, as a bi guy with a bunch of gay friends, if they ever say something about capitalism, I'll note that capitalism is the entire reason gay rights even exist.
If you are an artist or a writer, include a political bent to what you write. Etc.
An organization can be corrupted, but the only person who can corrupt you is you. So you go be the change.
That's kinda like arguing making Hitler chancellor handed the country over to the communists; there are more than one flavor of authoritarianism, and authoritarians tend to not like sharing power with people outside of their ingroup. We could get revenge, if we were willing to be brutal enough; but it would by a pyrrhic victory.Have fun with that. It doesn't work, unless you want to hand leftists everything they wanted by establishing an authoritarian state.
You won't even get your revenge, btw, as the leftists will rebrand themselves as part of the state, and you'll get tossed aside once the authoritarianism is established.