Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

[TheRejectionist]

Civilians are acceptable casualties in war.
What Hamas does is diffrent. Bucha in Ukraine is paled in comparison to this

Zachowon to you any casualty is acceptable as long is your country or one of your country's allies, one of your comrades or you yourself would do it.
Not to mention what your government did in Abu Graib or the fact that your country's armed forces allowed to happen in Afghanistan like the child rapists in the barracks.

Obama Admin Funded Afghan Units It Knew Were Committing Human Rights Abuses - The Stream

The Obama administration funded Afghan Army units that it knew were committing human rights abuses, according to a major report released Tuesday.

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Your tax dollars fund Afghan child rape

Bacha bazi — “boy play” — is not the only barbaric Afghan practice countenanced by the U.S. government…

thehill.com

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/25/bacha_bazi_obamas_silence_on_afghan_militarys_child_rape_128212.html

 

[GoldRanger]

You guys forget, finding a way to blame the West/US allies for anything bad that happens, finding ways to cast doubt on any alliance the US is part of, and finding ways to ignore what the enemies of the west do in a desire to 'whatabout' everything is all DarthOne does anymore.

He's a vatnik loving contrarian Right-Wing NPC who cares more about 'opposing the current thing' than anything else.

Honestly that sounds like a lefty with extra steps.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Honestly that sounds like a lefty with extra steps.

No? None of that is something exclusively lefty because of certain opinions.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Hold on... Imma going to try and post something from Facebooks Twitter alternative Threads. It's about Hollywood Actor Josh Gad moping about how so many of his fellow Progressives are support Hamas and engaging in antisemitism and the like. Lets see how the post embeds on The Sietch...

Josh Gad (@joshgad) on Threads

I have always called myself a Progressive. The past 2 weeks have made me feel so desperately alienated & disheartened by what that seems to encompass. I’ll always stand for what’s right but to see people I’ve always identified with ripping down posters of hostages & say such horrific &...

www.threads.net

Oh not bad embedding. Pretty basic though. Twitter despite its many growing technical problems is still superior for tear harvesting.

The left does it too & more often even before the current events.

Yes good point. These factions on the Right often have a historically intractable fear and antipathy towards Jews regardless of their individual values or viewpoints often exhibit other Leftist values as well. Very curious.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Zachowon to you any casualty is acceptable as long is your country or one of your country's allies, one of your comrades or you yourself would do it.
Not to mention what your government did in Abu Graib or the fact that your country's armed forces allowed to happen in Afghanistan like the child rapists in the barracks.

Obama Admin Funded Afghan Units It Knew Were Committing Human Rights Abuses - The Stream

The Obama administration funded Afghan Army units that it knew were committing human rights abuses, according to a major report released Tuesday.

stream.org

Your tax dollars fund Afghan child rape

Bacha bazi — “boy play” — is not the only barbaric Afghan practice countenanced by the U.S. government…

thehill.com

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/25/bacha_bazi_obamas_silence_on_afghan_militarys_child_rape_128212.html

So what you are arguing is that Bucha style massacres are actually a traditional Russian practice like boy fucking is to Pashtuns?

 

[Zachowon]

Zachowon to you any casualty is acceptable as long is your country or one of your country's allies, one of your comrades or you yourself would do it.
Not to mention what your government did in Abu Graib or the fact that your country's armed forces allowed to happen in Afghanistan like the child rapists in the barracks.

Obama Admin Funded Afghan Units It Knew Were Committing Human Rights Abuses - The Stream

The Obama administration funded Afghan Army units that it knew were committing human rights abuses, according to a major report released Tuesday.

stream.org

Your tax dollars fund Afghan child rape

Bacha bazi — “boy play” — is not the only barbaric Afghan practice countenanced by the U.S. government…

thehill.com

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/25/bacha_bazi_obamas_silence_on_afghan_militarys_child_rape_128212.html

I mean, they were partners, not allies.
We as a military didn't trust them as far as we could throw them. Our politicians are stupid.

and russia has a history if gang raping its soldiers as a fork of punishment or as a form of hazing.
China and North Korea use thier female service members as uh...not so fun stuff. As do the Russians.

There is a diffrence.
we turned our backs on what the Afghani did because it is not our business to change thirr culture.
We didn't do the raping (in the mass numbers. It did happen in small batches) and pillaging the Russians ir any other nations in the ME have

So what you are arguing is that Bucha style massacres are actually a traditional Russian practice like boy fucking is to Pashtuns?

I mean, sure sounds like it.

 

[AmosTrask]

So what you are arguing is that Bucha style massacres are actually a traditional Russian practice like boy fucking is to Pashtuns?

The Russian Army does both. The younger and more beautiful the conscripts both male and female the better. They are equal opportunity gang rapists and mass murderers.

 

[TheRejectionist]

So what you are arguing is that Bucha style massacres are actually a traditional Russian practice like boy fucking is to Pashtuns?

No what I am arguing is Zach is the last person that should talk about civilian casualties.

The Russian Army does both. The younger and more beautiful the conscripts both male and female the better. They are equal opportunity gang rapists and mass murderers.

Your country seems to allow it too Ex-US soldier faces 22 years behind bars for sexually abusing Filipino children if it is foreign soldiers. But Duterte also encouraged this Inciting soldiers to rape in the Philippines so literally very few armies are different.

 

[Zachowon]

No what I am arguing is Zach is the last person that should talk about civilian casualties.

Your country seems to allow it too Ex-US soldier faces 22 years behind bars for sexually abusing Filipino children if it is foreign soldiers. But Duterte also encouraged this Inciting soldiers to rape in the Philippines so literally very few armies are different.

US punishes it's citizens.
We do not punish foreign citizens we work with

 

[Husky_Khan]

Your country seems to allow it too Ex-US soldier faces 22 years behind bars for sexually abusing Filipino

"Your country seems to allow it too...."



"Ex-US SOLDIER FACES 22 YEARS BEHIND BARS."



Nice googling.

The comparison was Hamas' Al Aqsa Offensive where militants went door to door allegedly murdering and raping and torturing a thousand plus civilians was WORSE then what Hamas' ally Russia perpetrated in having its military units engaging in mass murder, looting and rape which resulted in the death of between 80-500 civilians being killed at a minimum in Bucha.

And both Hamas and Russia "seems to allow it too."

Stop googling random shit for whataboutism arguments that literally have no bearing on the comparison or incident at hand.

Just say "George Floyd" a lot and that "And You Are Lynching Negroes." It'll be far more entertaining discussion, especially on this forum.

And you can still use the queer justification logic of "Why can't I rape more if you can rape a little?" for your discussion purposes. Everyone wins.

 

[DarthOne]

Honestly that sounds like a lefty with extra steps.

Oh go to hell. And if you’re going to insult me, have the decency to do it to my face. Never mind that a lot of that is a pack of lies. All because I’m not a damn neo-con.

 

[DarthOne]

I'm tired of hearing about 'innocent Gazans'. Hamas is their elected Government and this is the consequence of their own actions.

Of course, I’m not quite so delusional to think that it’s as simple as ‘pickup up a rifle and overthrow their government’. If it was, well…

Moving on, other factors as I understand them are such. Hamas was elected back in 2006 and basically established a party dictatorship ever since — there haven't been any more elections.

Also, the median age in Gaza is 18, so the population is incredibly young. A big chunk of them wouldn't have even been born in 06, and even a large share of current adults would've been children at the time. So you’ve got a lot of indoctrination going on.

 

[DarthOne]

Do you think this will help, or hurt attitudes towards Jews in the future?

The left does it too & more often even before the current events.

Jews divesting from radical leftism and Islamism is a good thing and hopefully it'll help attitudes towards Jews and vice versa with the Right since the victims of this divestment will be Leftists and Islamists and their supporters.

Of course some factions on the Right often have a historically intractable fear and antipathy towards Jews regardless of their individual values or viewpoints. You often find them asking weird questions on various web communities.

@Husky_Khan, if your comment about elements of the Right was a reference to neo-Nazis, nazism and fascism are not right wing political movements.

That nonsense was made up by the socialists and communists during the end of WW2 and the Cold War to try to distance their ideology from the Nazis and to undermine nationalism as opposed to the socialism/communism’s (laughable) idea of a universal Brotherhood of the Working Class across the world.

Edit- clarification

 

[Husky_Khan]

If your talking about neo-Nazis, nazism and fascism are not right wing political movements. Stop perpetuating communism lies to undermine nationalism.

Thank you for telling me this instead of the people I was responding to.

I'll be sure not to challenge them in the future because that would be perpetuating communist lies to undermine nationalism.

 

[DarthOne]

Thank you for telling me this instead of the people I was responding to.

I'll be sure not to challenge them in the future because that would be perpetuating communist lies to undermine nationalism.

Damnit, meant to multi quote them in too. Sorry. I’ll fix that.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Russia has been doing meetings with Hamas leadership; the link between Hamas and Russia already exists and is part of the set up for their attack on Israel.

Maybe Russia will take in the two million Palestinian Gazans?





If so Russia can win so many brownie points with the Islamic World and think of all of the foreign aid they can skim off of as well.

Also I forgot Hamas' main decision making body is labeled as a Politburo (political bureau). That's funny too.

 

[Bassoe]

Do you think this will help, or hurt attitudes towards Jews in the future?

The làtter, despite how individuàl common-folk everydày Jewish womàn, màn or child hàs nothing to do with it. This will be tàken às ànother negàtive demonstràtion of power.

Jews divesting from radical leftism and Islamism is a good thing and hopefully it'll help attitudes towards Jews and vice versa with the Right since the victims of this divestment will be Leftists and Islamists and their supporters.

Of course some factions on the Right often have a historically intractable fear and antipathy towards Jews regardless of their individual values or viewpoints. You often find them asking weird questions on various web communities.

Depends on how it ends up affecting us and our countries. If Israel massacres the Palestinians or exiles them to some other country, condemnation on moral grounds but essentially no actual meaningful consequences. If, on the other hand, our countries get drawn into the war and our soldiers used as cannon fodder, or the Palestinians exiled to our countries, right after being increasingly radicalized by the violence against them, those would certainly not help.

 

[Marduk]

If so Russia can win so many brownie points with the Islamic World and think of all of the foreign aid they can skim off of as well.

Also I forgot Hamas' main decision making body is labeled as a Politburo (political bureau). That's funny too.

Once they hear about their opinion about suicidal attacks and think of how many Storm Z units that 2 million would be, who knows...

 

[Captain X]

Russia totally deserves Hamas. I hope they make it happen.

 

[Navarro]

Oh yeah seeing those posts was hilarious.



Brown people literally have no agency. Everything has been decided for them by White Colonizers decades earlier.

Clearly the British Empire is responsible for this!

Also, pro-Palestinian/Hamas outlets are putting out conspiracy theories that the slaughters and atrocities were done by Israeli soldiers. These people are just so depraved.