HUGE victory against big tech.

Sir 1000

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If they don't start acting like normal companies soon, we're going to end up with parallel economies; with the regressive left in one, and everyone else in the other. This will inevitably lead to civil war, and they don't really have a plan for what to do against people who won't just slink away when verbally assaulted, and will quite literally try to kill them.
Problem with that is in the case of something like visa it takes an enormous amount of money to even attempt and if you did it and tried to be neutral i think they can ban those. Even if they couldn't you just know the owner will be pressured behind the scenes somehow.
 

Terthna

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Problem with that is in the case of something like visa it takes an enormous amount of money to even attempt and if you did it and tried to be neutral i think they can ban those. Even if they couldn't you just know the owner will be pressured behind the scenes somehow.
If that's the case, how come drug dealers are still a thing? Even the Soviet Union was powerless against their Black Market; what hope do you think the regressive left has in combating one?
 

Sir 1000

Shitlord
If that's the case, how come drug dealers are still a thing? Even the Soviet Union was powerless against their Black Market; what hope do you think the regressive left has in combating one?
If the right is reduced to shady cash exchanges in parking lots then it's over. Sargon want's his shit cuckservative, does not a successful movement make.
 

AnimalNoodles

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If the right is reduced to shady cash exchanges in parking lots then it's over. Sargon want's his shit cuckservative, does not a successful movement make.

Thats what life is like for dissidents in a totalitarian society. The right had many opportunities over the years, but they chose to waste them on fellating corporations and blowing shit up for israel.

The social justice police state wont last forever, and when it falls, we will have the blueprints supplied to us by our enemies to build our own systems. But until then, we will have to learn to live behind the rainbow curtain as best as we can and do what we can to resist and avoid the notice of our oppressors.
 

bullethead

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If it's a good enough idea, then someone else will take Patreon's place when they go down. Hopefully, whichever company that does will learn from Patreon's destruction what not to do.
From what I hear, one of Leonard French's viewers has setup a Patreon alternative, but I dunno if anyone besides him is really using it.
 

Whitestrake Pelinal

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If it's a good enough idea, then someone else will take Patreon's place when they go down. Hopefully, whichever company that does will learn from Patreon's destruction what not to do.
Without visa/mastercard and the others behaving like a normal company it's not likely. Honestly with the increasing creep from the left i think one day even donating to a conservative will be banned as ''hate''.
For now, SubscribeStar - The best way to start your own subscription business seems to be the v.Next of choice. Not pozzed as far as I know.

But @Sir 1000 is unfortunatley correct. The value of Patreon was that they served as an easy and affordable middle-man for handling credit/debit/banking transactions, and those companies (Visa, Mastercard, JPMorgan Chase, etc..) are starting to get woke. They have already tested the waters on de-banking some safely fringe figures. So, any wealth transfer method that involves the international finance system is at risk. Leaving us cryptocurrency, which I'm sorry to say is mostly a joke, and cash, which western nations will attack with pandemic panics.
If they don't start acting like normal companies soon, we're going to end up with parallel economies; with the regressive left in one, and everyone else in the other. This will inevitably lead to civil war, and they don't really have a plan for what to do against people who won't just slink away when verbally assaulted, and will quite literally try to kill them.
Leftists mostly don't need to do the killing themselves, they have security forces do that. The various local 'police' forces that carry out no-knock 4am killings, the ATF, parts of the FBI. A civil war only gets out of their control if it goes too hot, but they have demonstrated so far that they can kill a few people here and there, confiscate guns from people who fend off a mob of rioters and charge them with felonies, jail people over gun charges that are explicitly unlawful, and the uprising that Solzhenitsyn wished happened in his time? Hasn't happened in our time either.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
Thats what life is like for dissidents in a totalitarian society. The right had many opportunities over the years, but they chose to waste them on fellating corporations and blowing shit up for israel.

The social justice police state wont last forever, and when it falls, we will have the blueprints supplied to us by our enemies to build our own systems. But until then, we will have to learn to live behind the rainbow curtain as best as we can and do what we can to resist and avoid the notice of our oppressors.

the funny thing the people we are all bitching about who are making every ones lives hell? Their 8% of the population at most, and their in a purity death spiral. Its not a matter of if their going to horribly self destruct but when. And when you look at their track record their horrible at even basic stability they literally fuck up everything they touch so if they do get power real power they will kill large amounts of people.

But it wont last long because their intensly self destructive.

Remember these people do not value stability at all or freedom so they will make enemies everywhere they go and undermine and destroy their own power structor.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
the funny thing the people we are all bitching about who are making every ones lives hell? Their 8% of the population at most, and their in a purity death spiral. Its not a matter of if their going to horribly self destruct but when. And when you look at their track record their horrible at even basic stability they literally fuck up everything they touch so if they do get power real power they will kill large amounts of people.

But it wont last long because their intensly self destructive.

Remember these people do not value stability at all or freedom so they will make enemies everywhere they go and undermine and destroy their own power structor.
Fair point; which means companies like Visa (assuming they're still around) will probably try to paper over this black spot in their histories the moment the regressive left completely loses its grip on power, in the hopes that the majority of people will simply forget that they had once fully backed the madness, and let them keep their own positions of power within our economy.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
So, I started switching off Patreon to Subscribestar after Sargon got kicked off the platform. It took quite a while to do, because SubscribeStar had been a *tiny* platform before hand, and the hard left conspired to get Stripe to stop serving as their payment processor, but they didn't cave, found an alternative, and have been expanding since.

I lost about half the monthly income I got from Patreon by switching to Subscribestar, but I saw it as a matter of principle. It's not quite as easy a platform to use as Patreon, nor does it have as many features but it does work, and the people who run it haven't tried to pull any BS on us. I think they're quite aware that the reason they went from miniscule to decent-sized is because of political refugees, and they respect that.

Bluntly, put, Patreon needs to pay the price for their malfeasance, and if they fold, the market will be better for it when people spread out to other platforms afterwards. It will be rough for a number of people in the short run though.
 

Sir 1000

Shitlord
Thats what life is like for dissidents in a totalitarian society. The right had many opportunities over the years, but they chose to waste them on fellating corporations and blowing shit up for israel.

The social justice police state wont last forever, and when it falls, we will have the blueprints supplied to us by our enemies to build our own systems. But until then, we will have to learn to live behind the rainbow curtain as best as we can and do what we can to resist and avoid the notice of our oppressors.
I worry that the corporations and security services will have all they need by then to simply rebrand their tyranny. Also im kind of doubtful this wokeshit will end before it's too late. Another ten years of this and white dudes won't just be defacto second class citizens but actual legal ones.
 

Tryglaw

Well-known member
Simple. The Regressive Left will abolish cash as a means to pay for things forcing EVERYONE to use online or credit card payments. This way they can trace all payments easily . Because only criminals use cash.

"War on Cash" has been a thing for quite a while. Now the Covid-19 scare adds to the issue, over "contaminated banknotes and coins spreading the virus".
If the cash would be abolished and replaced with completely traceable electronic payment we'd see totalitarian oversight that would give Stalin* pause.

*for reference, there was during Soviet days an idea to abolish money, Stalin veto'ed it realising the safety valve role.
 

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