I Don't Wanna Be Famous (A Total Drama SI story)

Which camper should return in chapter 15 alongside Izzy?

  • Cody

    Votes: 3 30.0%
  • Beth

    Votes: 6 60.0%
  • Owen

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Leshawna

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Noah

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Geoff

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Bridgette

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Tyler

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Katie/Sadie (one or the other)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Harold

    Votes: 1 10.0%

  • Total voters
    10
  • Poll closed .

Abhorsen

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ahh, makes sense. The Sietch is a newer site, so it's bound to have moments like these.
Currently, a hacky way to solve this is always open any alert from the thread, and make sure to navigate to the last page of the thread. Obviously, this is not ideal. I'll talk to staff about enabling OP updates.

Thoughts? Not just from Bear Ribs, but from others, too.
I mean, I'm shipping them hard because I ship crack. So I am in no way objective here. It was a tad much but I overall liked them.
 

Blasterbot

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If by poll you're referring to the discussion between chapters, that was basically me going "Hmm, I've been dropping hints about this for a while, now, but maybe it's still coming from too far out of left field? I'd better check!" and then getting back something like "It's out of left field, but not too far. It should be fine."

That said, I'm fully in agreement with you that I put in too many hints in one chapter. Right now I'm considering going back to something closer to my earlier draft, which didn't have the hint in the pre-challenge scene, and didn't have Izzy jump into Jason's lap during the movie scene (and by extension, didn't have Heather's introspective reaction). I might drop the confessional at the end, too. Not sure if I should make any changes to the psycho killer scene or not... the part about their eyes meeting feels a bit iffy to me - probably because I've never been the smarmy sort - so I might change that a bit.

Thoughts? Not just from Bear Ribs, but from others, too.
I mostly chalked it up to difference in perspectives. how you IC perceive what she does and how she perceives how she acts can be 2 very different things. especially since she seems to be reading more into what you do IC than you yourself do. admittedly often wrongly. toning things down before the beat down is fine but the scenes as is read quite well. but with the confession booth that read pretty good for me. it was her trying to put herself together while still in shock. that she couldn't do it fully absolutely makes sense as she is a teenager who just went through something very traumatic.
 

JasonSanjo

Your Overlord and Jester
I mostly chalked it up to difference in perspectives. how you IC perceive what she does and how she perceives how she acts can be 2 very different things. especially since she seems to be reading more into what you do IC than you yourself do. admittedly often wrongly. toning things down before the beat down is fine but the scenes as is read quite well. but with the confession booth that read pretty good for me. it was her trying to put herself together while still in shock. that she couldn't do it fully absolutely makes sense as she is a teenager who just went through something very traumatic.
Yeah, Heather and Jason definitely have different perceptions of things, no question about that. And yes, the confessional I intended as being a result of the traumatic experience(s) coupled with her own conflicting feelings visavi Jason basically making her thought process a complete mess.

I'll wait for some more people to weigh in before I do anything - I've got a busy weekend anyhow what with Halloween and all - but right now I might be leaning more towards simply editing the pre-challenge and movie scenes while leaving the confessional untouched. Still feeling kinda 50/50 on the psycho killer scene, though. It might be enough to just change a formulation or two, but we'll see.
 

Bear Ribs

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Yeah, Heather and Jason definitely have different perceptions of things, no question about that. And yes, the confessional I intended as being a result of the traumatic experience(s) coupled with her own conflicting feelings visavi Jason basically making her thought process a complete mess.
The different perspectives and how they play off each other by misunderstanding each other's motivations and actions is probably my favorite part of this story.
 

VictortheMonarch

Victor the Crusader
Yeah, Heather and Jason definitely have different perceptions of things, no question about that. And yes, the confessional I intended as being a result of the traumatic experience(s) coupled with her own conflicting feelings visavi Jason basically making her thought process a complete mess.

I'll wait for some more people to weigh in before I do anything - I've got a busy weekend anyhow what with Halloween and all - but right now I might be leaning more towards simply editing the pre-challenge and movie scenes while leaving the confessional untouched. Still feeling kinda 50/50 on the psycho killer scene, though. It might be enough to just change a formulation or two, but we'll see.

this is gonna be a weird ending, I can feel it. Jason seems to be in the middle of a love triangle... or...love square? We'll just call it a love triangle for now. Besides that, unless Jason (or you, for better prerogative) are Islamic, then I doubt that a Harem will be in the ending as in most countries (even Sweden, at least last I checked) do not allow polygamous marriage... And marriage is in most people's end goals.
 

JasonSanjo

Your Overlord and Jester
this is gonna be a weird ending, I can feel it. Jason seems to be in the middle of a love triangle... or...love square? We'll just call it a love triangle for now. Besides that, unless Jason (or you, for better prerogative) are Islamic, then I doubt that a Harem will be in the ending as in most countries (even Sweden, at least last I checked) do not allow polygamous marriage... And marriage is in most people's end goals.
I am definitely not Islamic, I can tell you that much 🤣
 

Bear Ribs

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So what do you all think of the rewrite? Does the plot flow better with the initial two hints removed?
I'm of the opinion that it's significantly improved. I feel it flows much better with Heather getting a mild punch in the hormones when Jason saves her and beats a murderer down, rather than her spontaneously deciding to appreciate his muscles several times in a row.
 

JasonSanjo

Your Overlord and Jester
I'm of the opinion that it's significantly improved. I feel it flows much better with Heather getting a mild punch in the hormones when Jason saves her and beats a murderer down, rather than her spontaneously deciding to appreciate his muscles several times in a row.
I... don't think his muscles were mentioned in either of the two removed instances, actually (the first one involved Heather getting jealous of Izzy for making Jason laugh and then physically touching him, while the second was about Izzy jumping into his lap; neither had anything to do with muscles).

But hey, the point is that it flows better than it did before, which it apparently does, so mission accomplished.
 

Mrsean22

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Should finally give some words on the last chapter. Man do love it. Especially with the timing of October. No vote but who did the worst of this challenge. Sadly was DJ and it makes sense with him not even being caught by Chef. The only one I can think of who came close to DJ was Trent and that was because of being afraid of Izzy but unlike DJ though Trent was caught by Chef. Though Trent was weirdly enough more afraid with the state he was in. Do find it funny that it was DJ trying to snap Trent out instead of the other way around. Though Trent is getting a bit more ruthless with his plan to run in different direction and thinking Izzy would go after DJ instead.

DO love the Izzy and Jason prank on Heather. Even better that it got DJ and Trent in it as well. It was sweet that Jason stayed for Heather. Yeah with basically saving her Heather is having a harder time ignoring the possible crush she has. Which should have interesting effects in the other episodes. Jason winning wasn't a surprise. It was either him or Eva I thought was gonna win by beating the real killer. Speaking of Eva somewhat did good but was caught. Would say she did better than most in this.

Courtney trying to keep everyone together. Was good effort but she didn't have well......respect? Not sue if that's the right word. Which lead to only Courtney and Duncan in their group. Duncan probably could of helped keep the group together but that would go against his interests. Got a little romantic scene between them. Very funny that Duncan was trying to push Courtney so he can escape instead of her thinking it was to save her but he isn't gonna correct her(XD).

Which means we have the final seven. Heather, Izzy, Trent, Courtney, Duncan, Eva and Jason. Only three of them were here in canon. Vote numbers are starting to get low so people need to find who they can work with even if its just for one vote. Cortney and Duncan are a obvious alliance because of relationship which puts a target on their backs from Heather and Jason wanting to get back at Duncan. The only other alliance I can think of is Jason, Eva and Izzy which gives them a big advantage if they can keep everyone else from working against them. Heather and Trent are not in a group but they could remake their alliance though Trent might be put off by Heather from the Lindsay situation.
 

JasonSanjo

Your Overlord and Jester
Should finally give some words on the last chapter. Man do love it. Especially with the timing of October. No vote but who did the worst of this challenge. Sadly was DJ and it makes sense with him not even being caught by Chef. The only one I can think of who came close to DJ was Trent and that was because of being afraid of Izzy but unlike DJ though Trent was caught by Chef. Though Trent was weirdly enough more afraid with the state he was in. Do find it funny that it was DJ trying to snap Trent out instead of the other way around. Though Trent is getting a bit more ruthless with his plan to run in different direction and thinking Izzy would go after DJ instead.

DO love the Izzy and Jason prank on Heather. Even better that it got DJ and Trent in it as well. It was sweet that Jason stayed for Heather. Yeah with basically saving her Heather is having a harder time ignoring the possible crush she has. Which should have interesting effects in the other episodes. Jason winning wasn't a surprise. It was either him or Eva I thought was gonna win by beating the real killer. Speaking of Eva somewhat did good but was caught. Would say she did better than most in this.

Courtney trying to keep everyone together. Was good effort but she didn't have well......respect? Not sue if that's the right word. Which lead to only Courtney and Duncan in their group. Duncan probably could of helped keep the group together but that would go against his interests. Got a little romantic scene between them. Very funny that Duncan was trying to push Courtney so he can escape instead of her thinking it was to save her but he isn't gonna correct her(XD).

Which means we have the final seven. Heather, Izzy, Trent, Courtney, Duncan, Eva and Jason. Only three of them were here in canon. Vote numbers are starting to get low so people need to find who they can work with even if its just for one vote. Cortney and Duncan are a obvious alliance because of relationship which puts a target on their backs from Heather and Jason wanting to get back at Duncan. The only other alliance I can think of is Jason, Eva and Izzy which gives them a big advantage if they can keep everyone else from working against them. Heather and Trent are not in a group but they could remake their alliance though Trent might be put off by Heather from the Lindsay situation.
Hey, haven't heard from you in a bit! Glad to see you back! Now, let's see...

Yeah, I wasn't originally planning on having this chapter out by October, but with the hiatus I did over the summer that's how it ended up, appropriately enough. And yeah, although I had a hard time getting anyone but DJ kicked off this time around, I at least wanted him to go out with marginally more dignity than he did in canon, hence the whole Trent situation. And Trent's plan backfiring was just too funny to pass up.

Yes, Heather is having some difficulties at the moment, between the prank and then the saving at the end, and the blood all over her hand, and so on. It'll play into the next chapter a lot; I already have a good portion of it written. As for Eva, I figured that, on a purely physical level, she would probably have the best chance next to Jason to pull off a win. However, I realized that Eva had never really been in a "scary" situation in canon (Sasquatchanakwa notwithstanding), so I thought it'd be funny to have it turn out that, although she's tough, she's not 100% on board with scary stuff, hence her reaction once she was alone in the girls' cabin.

Yeah, I sorta split Gwen's original role between Courtney and Heather, and Courtney sadly had not really earned the respect of her fellow campers to the point that she could effectively assume much of a leadership role. As you say Duncan could've probably helped with keeping the group together, but just like in canon he was more interested in facing off against the psycho killer. And he will never, ever ever, correct Courtney on what happened, because her version of the events is 100% correct and if anyone says otherwise they will mysteriously receive a good beating.

Yeah, although both DJ and Lindsay got kicked off the same way they did in canon, there still are comparatively few canon campers left at this juncture. And the alliances - official or not - are wearing a bit thin, the Jason/Eva/Izzy one being the exception. With Duncan and Courtney making no secret of their new status as a couple, they do have a huge target on their backs... the question being if anyone else has a bigger one or not. Basically, right now, we have the Duncan/Courtney and Jason/Eva/Izzy groupings, with Trent and, perhaps surprisingly, Heather being the lone agents at this time. As for how that develops? Read the next chapter to find out :p
 

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