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posh-goofiness

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Fuck off. No one asked for this and it sure as shit wasn't in the Tory manifesto.
First off, the voters know the score. Second, the people they voted for actively work toward the destruction of the British culture, people, and institutions. What the fuck did the British people expect when they put in these people? That they'll leave everything alone? NO. They're going to actively destroy you because that's what they want.

Surprise! The people who hate you and your way of life want to change it. Wow! What an unexpected turn! Who fucking cares if it wasn't in their manifesto? It has been made abundantly, explicitly clear over the last... jeez... decade or more that the people in power are active enemies to the people they rule. Fucking... if the unified response to the covid scamdemic didn't make it clear, I don't know what will.
 

Lord Sovereign

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so Ukip victory when?

Never. That party has completely imploded. Others are now vying to be its successor in the form of Reform UK and the SDP, but it'll be a fair few years before that gets sorted out. For now, we must make do with the best of a bad bunch.

First off, the voters know the score. Second, the people they voted for actively work toward the destruction of the British culture, people, and institutions. What the fuck did the British people expect when they put in these people? That they'll leave everything alone? NO. They're going to actively destroy you because that's what they want.

Surprise! The people who hate you and your way of life want to change it. Wow! What an unexpected turn! Who fucking cares if it wasn't in their manifesto? It has been made abundantly, explicitly clear over the last... jeez... decade or more that the people in power are active enemies to the people they rule. Fucking... if the unified response to the covid scamdemic didn't make it clear, I don't know what will.

In my not so humble opinion, this portrays a serious ignorance as to how politics and power works, and a dash of paranoia that isn't entirely applicable to the British situation. It's also filled to the brim with this unfortunate attitude some on the Right have to "normies", which verges on sneering elitism. Give it a rest.

The electorate voted for The Conservatives, which should all but imply what they wanted. Unfortunately the Conservatives are permeated by whiggery, which in of itself isn't actively out to destroy the country it's just an unfortunate side effect of being stuck in a particular way of thinking, IE, runaway Enlightenment Universalism. This also makes them incredibly vulnerable to lefty subversion as they simply don't know how to handle them due to being stuck in the same thought bubble as them. They don't actually hate us. They, like the rest of the entire British political class, are stuck in a particular way of thinking that prevents them from governing the country effectively. America is fortunate in that Trump effectively forced this worldview to be confronted and talked about, which is now causing it to be slowly excised from the GOP due to it not being fit for purpose. In time I have little doubt something similar will happen to the Democrats.

As for us, much like the rest of Europe and the Anglosphere, we haven't had that moment yet. At the end of the day, it is Labour (who in of themselves were once quite patriotic), which is everything bad about the current situation on steroids, or what we have at the moment. The other parties are too small and not well established enough for the public to take a chance with them.

And if you're actually suggesting we should resort to armed rebellion, you need to seriously reassess some of your viewpoints as that is utterly unfeasible for anyone right now.
 

WolfBear

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And not all jews were smart,considering how many supported soviets - when everybody could see that it is matter of time till sralin would purge them.

They likely had a high average IQ but also sometimes lacked common sense! ;)
 

posh-goofiness

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In my not so humble opinion, this portrays a serious ignorance as to how politics and power works, and a dash of paranoia that isn't entirely applicable to the British situation. It's also filled to the brim with this unfortunate attitude some on the Right have to "normies", which verges on sneering elitism. Give it a rest.
Elitist? Really? I could accept that paranoia bit if you'd left it at that, but elitism? It's just reality that you get what you vote for. That's not elitism it's reality.
The electorate voted for The Conservatives, which should all but imply what they wanted. Unfortunately the Conservatives are permeated by whiggery, which in of itself isn't actively out to destroy the country it's just an unfortunate side effect of being stuck in a particular way of thinking, IE, runaway Enlightenment Universalism. This also makes them incredibly vulnerable to lefty subversion as they simply don't know how to handle them due to being stuck in the same thought bubble as them. They don't actually hate us. They, like the rest of the entire British political class, are stuck in a particular way of thinking that prevents them from governing the country effectively.
My dude. Read what you just wrote. They aren't "vulnerable to lefty subversion" they've already been subverted. I said it a few posts back. The conservatives are already leftists. They hold the same leftist positions with a veneer of conservatism. While one hand destroys your country, the other gives you just enough to placate you. They are working in harmony to ensure people and parties that could help you reverse things are ineffective. Meanwhile, the country changes around you. And those changes are implemented by people in a death cult whose ultimate goal are the destruction of your people. They are incredibly effective at what their purpose is: the destruction of Britain and the implementation of the globalist vision of technocratic feudalism.
America is fortunate in that Trump effectively forced this worldview to be confronted and talked about, which is now causing it to be slowly excised from the GOP due to it not being fit for purpose. In time I have little doubt something similar will happen to the Democrats.

As for us, much like the rest of Europe and the Anglosphere, we haven't had that moment yet. At the end of the day, it is Labour (who in of themselves were once quite patriotic), which is everything bad about the current situation on steroids, or what we have at the moment. The other parties are too small and not well established enough for the public to take a chance with them.
Don't kid yourself. Labour were always socialists. By definition, they want, pursue, and implement policies to destroy capitalism. They were, are, always will be revolutionaries and, therefore, will always campaign for your destruction. As for smaller parties, well. As you mentioned UKIP is in collapse. I don't know anything about SDP, please elaborate.
And if you're actually suggesting we should resort to armed rebellion, you need to seriously reassess some of your viewpoints as that is utterly unfeasible for anyone right now.
Huh... did I say that? *checks post* Nope. Would you care to try again? I'll state this plainly. Political violence is fucking retarded. The moment bullets start flying, any chance of a good end goes away. We only get bad ends from that point on. We must work nonviolently, aggressively toward our goals from now on. Otherwise, violence will be the only solution.
 

ATP

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They likely had a high average IQ but also sometimes lacked common sense! ;)

Indeed.After 1937 purges it was obvious then anybody who support him and made career would live in luxury for few years,and then go to gulag.
If i remember correctly,in army and NKWD safe position was captain,becouse majors or higher was mostly purged.Problem was - how to not get promoted above that level without being purget,too.
 

WolfBear

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Conservatives (mostly white people) generally think that diversity is a strength and that there are no innate racial differences on important traits but also oppose the Great Replacement:


Personally, I would prefer a Great Replacement with race realism than no Great Replacement and no race realism either.
 

WolfBear

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Most people don't bitch too much about the hindu immigrants they seem to asmiluate just fine.

Yeah, other than bringing in and spreading Leftism, Indian immigrants are indeed very nice. :) They don't murder people for eating beef in the West, after all.
 

WolfBear

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That varies, the indian shopkeep who's been robbed by a pakastani gang banger is different then the one who has a programing job.

The former is more conservative than the latter is, I'm presuming? If so, then that's an argument in favor of importing more of the first kind of Indians.
 

WolfBear

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I made an interesting observation: The countries that were mostly ethnically homogenerous in 1914 are also the countries that have generally been the biggest consumers of diversity over the last several decades whereas the countries that were a part of multinational empires/countries in 1914 are also generally the countries that are the most hostile towards diversity nowadays, especially towards the culturally distant kind of diversity (such as large-scale Muslim immigration):

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Even once Eastern and Central Europe opened up from Communism, there wasn't much of a hunger for diversity in those countries, other than perhaps for a small sprinkling of Vietnamese.

I guess that Western Europe simply became too bland and boring for its citizens, in addition to it of course not spending decades in the Communist/Soviet Freezer:


 
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Aldarion

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I made an interesting observation: The countries that were mostly ethnically homogenerous in 1914 are also the countries that have generally been the biggest consumers of diversity over the last several decades whereas the countries that were a part of multinational empires/countries in 1914 are also generally the countries that are the most hostile towards diversity nowadays, especially towards the culturally distant kind of diversity (such as large-scale Muslim immigration):

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Even once Eastern and Central Europe opened up from Communism, there wasn't much of a hunger for diversity in those countries, other than perhaps for a small sprinkling of Vietnamese.

I guess that Western Europe simply became too bland and boring for its citizens, in addition to it of course not spending decades in the Communist/Soviet Freezer:



Having experience with diversity is similar to having experience with a disease: you do not want to experience it again.

Unfortunately, human memory is short-lived.
 

WolfBear

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Having experience with diversity is similar to having experience with a disease: you do not want to experience it again.

Unfortunately, human memory is short-lived.

And the interesting thing is that Eastern Europe's early 20th experience with diversity was more culturally compatible than that of Western Europe right now: Early 20th century Eastern Europe had Jews and other European ethnic groups, after all, and of course a few Roma as well. Western Europe right now has much more culturally incompatible Muslims.
 

WolfBear

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Having migrants and asylum seekers stay at Third World hotels while their claims are being processed is actually a great idea! It allows them to have a great quality of life while significantly minimizing Western expenses for them since purchasing power goes much further in the Third World than in the First World! Win-win!

Really, it would be nice for the West and/or East Asia to help build some nice cities in the developing world and subsequently help provide the upkeep for them so that Third Worlders are less compelled to move to the West.
 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
Really, it would be nice for the West and/or East Asia to help build some nice cities in the developing world and subsequently help provide the upkeep for them so that Third Worlders are less compelled to move to the West.

Only problem is, they will just wreck it all and then blame the developed world for all their troubles anyway.
 

Cherico

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Only problem is, they will just wreck it all and then blame the developed world for all their troubles anyway.

The problem with much of the deveoping world is cultural, you want to develope your country over the long term and make it successful? Make everyone follow the same rules and punish the cheaters. This is rule of law and it works.

Shame we are abandoning it though like idiots.
 

WolfBear

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Only problem is, they will just wreck it all and then blame the developed world for all their troubles anyway.

Yeah, that might be a problem. You gotta teach them about the rule of law, or at least install national leaders in their countries who care about this. Well, about both the rule of law and national stability.
 

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