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[DarthOne]

Nancy Pelosi Angry That Laken Riley's Killer Was Described As An "Illegal"

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After Joe Biden shocked many by actually telling the truth that Laken Riley was killed by an "illegal," Nancy Pelosi expressed her anger that the murderer wasn't described as "undocumented".

Yes, really.

The 22-year-old nursing student at Augusta University was kidnapped and killed by an illegal immigrant from Venezuela when she was jogging at the University of Georgia last month.

Marjorie Taylor Greene heckled Biden during his State of the Union speech and was actually successful in forcing Biden to tell the truth about the matter.

Although in true senile fashion, Biden called her "Lincoln," he did say Riley was an "innocent young woman who was killed by an illegal".



Nancy Pelosi was visibly annoyed that Riley's killer was accurately described.



"And he should have said undocumented, but it's not a big thing, okay?" she told a CNN panel.

Apparently, it was a big thing to her, otherwise she wouldn't have said it.

"You do think he should have said undocumented?" Pelosi was asked.

"We usually say undocumented," she responded.

Who is she even being offended on behalf of, the actual murderer?

 

[LordsFire]

...Is this real, or a parody?

 

[DarthOne]

...Is this real, or a parody?

Apparently its a fake. As I haven't been able to track down an original tweet.

More the fool me, then again, given how crazy things are, can you really blame me for thinking its real?

 

[Aldarion]

I think that just pointing to muh biology as if higher melanin genes also give more violence and less intelligence is dumb.

Biological differences are much deeper than just "higher melanin genes". Hell, Mediterranean and Scandinavian populations have far greater genetic difference than whites and blacks should have by your logic.

 

[DarthOne]

The Left's obsession with eroding cultural and religious identity in America while simultaneously defending Israel's right to maintain its Jewish majority is textbook hypocrisy. It's time to prioritize our own national cohesion over globalist agendas.

 

[Bacle]

This comes across like the 'magic dirt' theory.
"Why is there more crime in these areas? Could the people be different?"
"Nah, its the racist lead which suspiciously affects primarily 'minorities' and not the other people present"

It's like those endless hit-pieces about 'Climate change affects black people more!' 'Air pollution affects black people more' and so on.

How come Mr Chang, drinking the same lead-polluted water as Desquarious Washington, doesn't turn into a murderous psycho because someone bumped into his shoulder?

"Experts say"
"Studies conclude"
"Science indicates"

Thanks to the replication crisis, we can't even trust scientific papers for objectivity.

Real funny how you will go on and on about the 'crime stats' for reasons why 'biological issues/traits' are the main driver of crime in certain areas/in certain groups, and yet when the stats about lead poisoning are brought up, suddenly we 'cannot trust the stats' on something as well documented as the effects of lead poisoning.

Turns out when the stats back up the psuedo-racist non-sense you want to push, they are to be respected; but when stats show something not related to genetics as a factor in cultural issues, suddenly stats are worthless.

Your bad faith debating on this subject is disgusting.

 

[Cherico]

Real funny how you will go on and on about the 'crime stats' for reasons why 'biological issues/traits' are the main driver of crime in certain areas/in certain groups, and yet when the stats about lead poisoning are brought up, suddenly we 'cannot trust the stats' on something as well documented as the effects of lead poisoning.

Turns out when the stats back up the psuedo-racist non-sense you want to push, they are to be respected; but when stats show something not related to genetics as a factor in cultural issues, suddenly stats are worthless.

Your bad faith debating on this subject is disgusting.

I don't think its primarly biology.

I think its the explosion of single mothers because the crime rate in the black community was much much lower when the black family was in tact. What we need to do is restore the rightful authority, respect, and dignaty of the black father and restore his rightful positon in the household.

 

[Bacle]

I don't think its primarly biology.

I think its the explosion of single mothers because the crime rate in the black community was much much lower when the black family was in tact. What we need to do is restore the rightful authority, respect, and dignaty of the black father and restore his rightful positon in the household.

Nature and nurture both have influence in how someone turns out, and destroying the black family removed a very important part of the nurture side of the equation, while shit like lead poisoning from paint, or leaded gas, definitely did biological damage to generations of young black people (and frankly a lot of other US groups as well).

The biological differences between different human populations (Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Native American) are only relevant for things like tissue/organ transplant because of how finicky the science of organ transplant is to begin with.

When people try to start engaging in...let's just call it what it is "genetic-cultural pre-determinism" they take what little genetic differences there are between the few distinct and acknowledged genetic subgroups, and trying to blame all human ills/problems on some groups having...'lesser' genetic profiles and dirtying the gene pool of other places, while generally ignoring the nurture side of the issue and ignoring environmental factors if they run counter to/or contradict the racial narrative that some people wish to push.

 

[TyrantTriumphant]

The Left's obsession with eroding cultural and religious identity in America while simultaneously defending Israel's right to maintain its Jewish majority is textbook hypocrisy. It's time to prioritize our own national cohesion over globalist agendas.

The Left doesn't defend Israel's right to exist. Have you not noticed those hordes of Leftist agitators in the streets screaming "death to Israel" because I sure have. Or how the EU, which is pretty much globalism incarnate had been constantly denouncing Israel for years? And the same for the UN.

The American Left has been trending more towards supporting the Palestinians over the Israelis for decades but has traditionally been restrained by the fact that many of their biggest donors have been Jewish. But ever since the war started that has changed. More and more prominent Democrats have been coming out against Israel including the administration. Biden's demands that Israel let up on Hamas have become increasingly loud in the last few weeks.

A lot of Democrats would love for Israel to become "culturally enriched" by hordes of Muslim immigrants just as they do for the United States and Europe. While there are a few exceptions, such as Fetterman, there seem to be less of them by the month.

 

[DarthOne]

The Left doesn't defend Israel's right to exist. Have you not noticed those hordes of Leftist agitators in the streets screaming "death to Israel" because I sure have. Or how the EU, which is pretty much globalism incarnate had been constantly denouncing Israel for years? And the same for the UN.

The American Left has been trending more towards supporting the Palestinians over the Israelis for decades but has traditionally been restrained by the fact that many of their biggest donors have been Jewish. But ever since the war started that has changed. More and more prominent Democrats have been coming out against Israel including the administration. Biden's demands that Israel let up on Hamas have become increasingly loud in the last few weeks.

A lot of Democrats would love for Israel to become "culturally enriched" by hordes of Muslim immigrants just as they do for the United States and Europe. While there are a few exceptions, such as Fetterman, there seem to be less of them by the month.

In which case, I’d point my finger towards those on the Right who embrace ‘muh multiculturalism’ yet have no issue with Israel’s aforementioned ethnic make up.

I hate double standards and want the West to survive. Simple as.

 

[Aldarion]

The Left doesn't defend Israel's right to exist. Have you not noticed those hordes of Leftist agitators in the streets screaming "death to Israel" because I sure have. Or how the EU, which is pretty much globalism incarnate had been constantly denouncing Israel for years? And the same for the UN.

The American Left has been trending more towards supporting the Palestinians over the Israelis for decades but has traditionally been restrained by the fact that many of their biggest donors have been Jewish. But ever since the war started that has changed. More and more prominent Democrats have been coming out against Israel including the administration. Biden's demands that Israel let up on Hamas have become increasingly loud in the last few weeks.

A lot of Democrats would love for Israel to become "culturally enriched" by hordes of Muslim immigrants just as they do for the United States and Europe. While there are a few exceptions, such as Fetterman, there seem to be less of them by the month.

Issue is that powerful Jews often do evil shit, and then hide behind their Jewishness and play victim.

Example: Ivo Goldstein, a historian and Croatian Jew, calls antiglobalists and opponents of migrations "Ustashi".

Ivo Goldstein tvrdi da u Hrvatskoj postoji proustaška kultura: To su antiglobalisti i protivnici migracija - Teleskop

Zašto suočavanje s prošlošću u Hrvatskoj ide tako teško? Koja je razlika između komemoracija za žrtve Bleiburga i žrtve Jasenovca

teleskop.hr

And when somebody calls him out on his bullshit, he labels said person an "Ustashi" or "antisemite" or whatever.

THAT is the problem here.

BTW, Haaretz is owned by Schocken family who - surprise, surprise - immigrated to Israel from Germany. So maybe Germany is the problem here.

 

[mrttao]

Your strawman is here:
This is especially obnoxious, as you later admit I don't actually use this kind of logic here:

facepalm.
This is not me strawmanning you, this is you strawmanning yourself.
Because you contradicted yourself.

In your first point you argued that anyone who says there is even a tiniest shred of genetic component is an evil racist and the very notion is utterly anathema.

Then in the third point you argue that you cannot prove it one way or another, but it is "at least mostly cultural".
Thus you self contradict.

If the root problem

You are assuming a singular root cause.
Usually you have multiple different root problems coming together.

If the root problem was biological, then under no circumstances could you find a case where a shift in culture removed the problem.

This is hilariously ironic.
As you are making an argument whose internal logic literally directly contradicts the stated intended result.

It is like a woke cultist saying
> "only racists oppose affirmative action. because POCs cannot ever succeed without affirmative action. therefore affirmative action is the only nonracist view"

Clearly this is ridiculous and the woke cultist in person is super racist. And their entire logic is that POCs are born inferior and inept and thus NEED affirmative action to compensate for their inferiority.

The statement I just quoted you saying is basically doing the same thing.
You THINK it argues in favor of "no biological component" but instead it is arguing that biological propensities are utterly immutable, that nurture is completely powerless. That you cannot ever form a cultural solution to something, only through genetic selection to eliminate undesirable traits.

 

[TyrantTriumphant]

Issue is that powerful Jews often do evil shit, and then hide behind their Jewishness and play victim.

Example: Ivo Goldstein, a historian and Croatian Jew, calls antiglobalists and opponents of migrations "Ustashi".

Ivo Goldstein tvrdi da u Hrvatskoj postoji proustaška kultura: To su antiglobalisti i protivnici migracija - Teleskop

Zašto suočavanje s prošlošću u Hrvatskoj ide tako teško? Koja je razlika između komemoracija za žrtve Bleiburga i žrtve Jasenovca

teleskop.hr

And when somebody calls him out on his bullshit, he labels said person an "Ustashi" or "antisemite" or whatever.

THAT is the problem here.

BTW, Haaretz is owned by Schocken family who - surprise, surprise - immigrated to Israel from Germany. So maybe Germany is the problem here.

While it is true that leftist Jews deflect legitimate criticism by calling it antisemitism all sorts of non-Jewish leftists do the same thing. Criticize a black leftist and they call you a racist, argue with a woman and you're a sexist. And so on.

Jews are not the problem, leftists are the problem.

 

[King Arts]

In which case, I’d point my finger towards those on the Right who embrace ‘muh multiculturalism’ yet have no issue with Israel’s aforementioned ethnic make up.

I hate double standards and want the West to survive. Simple as.

Yes that's part of the reason why I have a big antipathy towards neocucks and evangelicals.

 

[LordsFire]

facepalm.
This is not me strawmanning you, this is you strawmanning yourself.
Because you contradicted yourself.

I did not contradict myself.

I explicitly accounted for the fact that I can't in good faith make a definitive statement 'X is a complete non-factor.'

This does not contradict 'Y is the dominant factor.'

 

[Aldarion]

While it is true that leftist Jews deflect legitimate criticism by calling it antisemitism all sorts of non-Jewish leftists do the same thing. Criticize a black leftist and they call you a racist, argue with a woman and you're a sexist. And so on.

Jews are not the problem, leftists are the problem.

Exactly. That, and diversity - minorities tend to be leftists no matter how much Right tries to appeal to them. Jews however get a bad rep because they had been a minority in Europe for a loong time, and also tend to be quite successful. They are basically a case study of "correlation does not mean causation".

 

[Doomsought]

actually... do you realize that you just argued that blacks are more likely to be criminals not because of culture / society / etc.
But because you claim they are dumber, and blame said stupidity on pollution induced brain damage?

These are compounding factors. Multiple factors build up upon each other the generate a major social issue. The principle is similar to the Swiss Cheese model of accident causation, except instead of risk factors creating holes, the risk factors are compound on each-other to create the problem.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Real funny how you will go on and on about the 'crime stats' for reasons why 'biological issues/traits' are the main driver of crime in certain areas/in certain groups, and yet when the stats about lead poisoning are brought up, suddenly we 'cannot trust the stats' on something as well documented as the effects of lead poisoning.

Turns out when the stats back up the psuedo-racist non-sense you want to push, they are to be respected; but when stats show something not related to genetics as a factor in cultural issues, suddenly stats are worthless.

Your bad faith debating on this subject is disgusting.

Oh I'm sorry, does the racist lead sneakily follow black people across the globe while mysteriously avoiding every other race?
I wasn't aware of the secret anti-black lead pipes installed in london, brisbane, stockholm, and basically every Western city, and several asian cities where blacks perform stupid levels of crime compared to the native population.

YOU are debating in bad faith with the preconceived notion that all people are born equal and that the only thing that changes is skin color. Applying this to any other species would make any experienced biologist laugh at you for not understanding how phenotypes are almost always connected to completely unpredictable changes in behavior.

You don't even NEED phenotype differences to get radical changes in behavior, that's how stupidly unpredictable genes are. And after being separated for a tens of thousands of years, every human population group has adapted for it's own incredibly specific niche. This brings upon new behaviors as well.

So please, explain to me why lead poisoning is the secret to black violence levels including LOCATIONS THAT LACK LEAD PIPES.
Explain to me why even when lead pipes are present, it affects only blacks and never the Koreans, Japanese, Chinese or Vietnamese.

 

[Captain X]

TL;DW - Sheriff exposes the fact that the Biden Admin has been providing free plane tickets to illegals and supporting the sex trafficking trade.

 

[DarthOne]

TL;DW - Sheriff exposes the fact that the Biden Admin has been providing free plane tickets to illegals and supporting the sex trafficking trade.

Freikorps time?