Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

[AnimalNoodles]

No one is coming to save us. And there will be no magical pendulum swing. Right wing millenarianism and messianism is an opiate we need to purge from our system.

Much of conservative politics is summed up as:

Wait for a pendulum swing/political messiah to save us
???
Profit

We must save ourselves, through decades of hard, patient and boring work, through endurance of suffering and careful study of our enemy.

 

[Grimalkin]

No one is coming to save us. And there will be no magical pendulum swing. Right wing millenarianism and messianism is an opiate we need to purge from our system.

Much of conservative politics is summed up as:

Wait for a pendulum swing/political messiah to save us
???
Profit

We must save ourselves, through decades of hard, patient and boring work, through endurance of suffering and careful study of our enemy.

No, you need to muster up the will to leave the democrat cities/states, stop supporting these parasites and migrate into small towns in swing state counties. If you disagree with the politicians in your city then leave and let the other voters enjoy the fruits of their policies, you could even revive some of the ghost towns that've been left fallow and rebuild or repair the infrastructure with your own hands.

The only way to win a rigged game is to not play, or otherwise to throw your morality away and sink to their level. If a national divorce is too hard to achieve then you should go for a national separation instead and just stop associating with those people.

How long do you think it'll take for these cities to collapse if the entire conservative portion of the workforce just starts leaving in large numbers? If a large portion of the productive workforce that actually maintains their infrastructure just suddenly isn't there anymore?

If you want the American Dream then stop grumbling about corrupt governments that can't and won't change, follow in the footsteps of your ancestors and go build it for yourself in a state where you can actually make a difference. What's needed here is for the conservatives to nut up and move en masse to the swing states.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

No, you need to muster up the will to leave the democrat cities/states, stop supporting these parasites and migrate into small towns in swing state counties. If you disagree with the politicians in your city then leave and let the other voters enjoy the fruits of their policies, you could even revive some of the ghost towns that've been left fallow and rebuild or repair the infrastructure with your own hands.

The only way to win a rigged game is to not play, or otherwise to throw your morality away and sink to their level. If a national divorce is too hard to achieve then you should go for a national separation instead and just stop associating with those people.

How long do you think it'll take for these cities to collapse if the entire conservative portion of the workforce just starts leaving in large numbers? If a large portion of the productive workforce that actually maintains their infrastructure just suddenly isn't there anymore?

If you want the American Dream then stop grumbling about corrupt governments that can't and won't change, follow in the footsteps of your ancestors and go build it for yourself in a state where you can actually make a difference. What's needed here is for the conservatives to nut up and move en masse to the swing states.

Has retreatism helped so far? No. They will follow you, no matter where you go. Its time to stop running, and start the process of learning how to organise for power. Things arent going to magically collapse. Just look at Brazil ffs. It limps along generation after generation. The Enemy if perfectly happy to live in a shitheap, as long as they get to run the shipheap.

A national divorce isnt going to happen without an immense amount of work and effort to pave the way either.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

You’re both rippling wet pussies. The battle is still some way from being lost.

 

[LordsFire]

You’re both rippling wet pussies. The battle is still some way from being lost.

To be fair to Grimalkin, he's at least proposing a strategy he thinks will be effective.

 

[Grimalkin]

Has retreatism helped so far? No. They will follow you, no matter where you go. Its time to stop running, and start the process of learning how to organise for power. Things arent going to magically collapse. Just look at Brazil ffs. It limps along generation after generation. The Enemy if perfectly happy to live in a shitheap, as long as they get to run the shipheap.

A national divorce isnt going to happen without an immense amount of work and effort to pave the way either.

Are they really going to follow you into rural America? What are they going to roll up their sleeves and build their own infrastructure too? If they get it in their head to actually follow into those small towns then you fucking ostracize them and don't service them, stop being a fucking collaborator and get it in your head that people aren't going fucking change unless you stop taking it easy on them.

As for your accusation of retreatism, I didn't say that you should move en masse to conservative strongholds where everyone agrees with you, I said that you should move en masse to the various counties in the swing states because that's where you can actually make a difference.

Learning the ways of the enemy is a just fancy way of saying that you should become like your enemy, and if you're organising for power instead of moral principle then you're already a Democrat in everything but name. The cities are not corrupt from the top down but from the bottom up, and as long as you're living in them and helping to keep them afloat then you yourself are an active participant in that corruption.

The choice is simple, are you going to stay a slave forever subject to the whims of your modern day Pharaoh's? Or are you going to nut up and leave for a place where you can make actually make a difference?

It might be hard and there might be unforeseen difficulties at every turn, but at the very least you probably won't have to wander the desert for forty years and more importantly you won't have to bear the immoral burden of supporting that corrupt enterprise with your own labours anymore.

A national divorce would be more like a legal separation of the different states, it was tried before and it resulted in a civil war. A national separation is much more simple, you just have to stop fucking associating with these parasites that're living off the fruit of your labours. The major advantage that conservatives have over democrats in this scenario is the fact that you can live without them just fine, but the same can not be said for them because most of them would rather go their entire life without a single day of doing productive work.

By your standard every single person that left the old world for a better life in America was retreating, whereas by my standard it was the practical and moral thing to do.

Edit: You cannot fight the corrupt system while simultaneously contributing your labour to it to help keep it afloat.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

Are they really going to follow you into rural America?

Yes

What are they going to roll up their sleeves and build their own infrastructure too?

yes

If they get it in their head to actually follow into those small towns then you fucking ostracize them and don't service them, stop being a fucking collaborator and get it in your head that people aren't going fucking change unless you stop taking it easy on them.

Has it happened yet? No. Hickibs are a Thing. How will this happen? YOU FUCKING ORGANISE. That takes alot of time and work. Something conservatives arent strong on. Anyone who does try and organise is fedjacketed or accused of being a comminazi or something.

As for your accusation of retreatism, I didn't say that you should move en masse to conservative strongholds where everyone agrees with you, I said that you should move en masse to the various counties in the swing states because that's where you can actually make a difference.

Not feasible to coordinate this kind of mass migration w/o a very large and powerful infrastructure of orgs and masses of funding. Which requires elite support. Something conservatives do not have. The enemy will not permit you to build regional powerblocs. They will plant colonies of section 8 housing and migrant resettlement centers to break up the cohesion of these regions.

Learning the ways of the enemy is a just fancy way of saying that you should become like your enemy, and if you're organising for power instead of moral principle then you're already a Democrat in everything but name. The cities are not corrupt from the top down but from the bottom up, and as long as you're living in them and helping to keep them afloat then you yourself are an active participant in that corruption.

Losers who want to win, study winners and apply their lessons. Cities are where the power is. Political power, culture power, economic power, social power. To win, you need to influence the cities. The reconquest of the city is the necessary precondition of victory.

You can be moral all you like, but w/o power you are nothing. Politics is about power. If you dont understand this, stay out of politics. The Enemy understand this, thats why they win. Seek power. Take power. Use power.

The choice is simple, are you going to stay a slave forever subject to the whims of your modern day Pharaoh's? Or are you going to nut up and leave for a place where you can make actually make a difference?

It might be hard and there might be unforeseen difficulties at every turn, but at the very least you probably won't have to wander the desert for forty years and more importantly you won't have to bear the immoral burden of supporting that corrupt enterprise with your own labours anymore.

A national divorce would be more like a legal separation of the different states, it was tried before and it resulted in a civil war. A national separation is much more simple, you just have to stop fucking associating with these parasites that're living off the fruit of your labours. The major advantage that conservatives have over democrats in this scenario is the fact that you can live without them just fine, but the same can not be said for them because most of them would rather go their entire life without a single day of doing productive work.

They. Will. Not. Leave. You. Alone.

By your standard every single person that left the old world for a better life in America was retreating, whereas by my standard it was the practical and moral thing to do.

They arrived here and *conquered*. What have conservatives conquered? Nothing. They retreat. then they accommodate. Then they retreat again. Then they purge people who want to fight. Thats because conservatives have no moral core anymore and dont believe in anything enough to want to fight or struggle for it. Conservative thought is now muh guns, muh taxes, muh induhvidualizm and muh israel. "Dems are the REAL Racists! AntiFa are Fascists!" They even use the vocabulary of the Enemy instead of inventing new words and new theories to describe them.

To win, conservatives need

a) a critique of power
b) A theory of power
c) A vocabulary of power
b) a mode of organising for power.

otherwise it will simply be beaten because it has nothing to really fight for.

Edit: You cannot fight the corrupt system while simultaneously contributing your labour to it to help keep it afloat.

Exploit the system to its fullest while working towards its complete destruction and replacement. We are in the looting phase, so loot!

 

[S'task]

What have conservatives conquered? Nothing.

. . .

In 1970 Homeschooling was ILLEGAL across the entire US under truancy laws. Here in 2023 Homeschooling is legal across the entire US with the only restrictions being in some state that require annual testing reports.

In 1970 "Originalism" and "Textualism" were basically the laughingstock of the Constitutional Scholarship world. Here in 2023 even left wing justices give lip service to Originalism and Textualism and those ideologies of Constitutional interpretation dominate the court to the point all Constitutional Law in the US is being understood through those lenses.

In 1970 Gun Control was widely accepted and there was no organized pushback or resistance against it. Many cities banned guns outright with no repercussions and in just a couple of decades in the 1990s gun control's high water mark would hit with the Federal Assault Weapon Ban. Here in 2023 not only have all these laws been swept away, more and more states have adopted less restrictions on gun rights.

In 1970 tax rates were high across the board and economic theory was completely dominated by Keynsians in both political parties. Here in 2023 Keynsians have been discredited completely on the right and only survive on the left in the form of Neo-Keynsians. Meanwhile the right has pretty much wholesale adopted Austrian and other related economic schools of thought that are focused on personal liberty and government non-intervention in the economy.

 

[LordsFire]

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It's really frustrating seeing historically ignorant people moan and complain about movements they're johnny-come-lately's to, isn't it?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

It's really frustrating seeing historically ignorant people moan and complain about movements they're johnny-come-lately's to, isn't it?

In fairness, most haven't taken the time to truly look at what/how things have changed over more than 10 years time. Likely from a lack of awareness or even existence (many are younger than those time frames) as well as a lack of study.

Which is part of what WE have to make sure others get. That is, an understanding of how this 'fight' is generational, long term and persistent.

 

[JagerIV]

. . .

In 1970 Homeschooling was ILLEGAL across the entire US under truancy laws. Here in 2023 Homeschooling is legal across the entire US with the only restrictions being in some state that require annual testing reports.

In 1970 "Originalism" and "Textualism" were basically the laughingstock of the Constitutional Scholarship world. Here in 2023 even left wing justices give lip service to Originalism and Textualism and those ideologies of Constitutional interpretation dominate the court to the point all Constitutional Law in the US is being understood through those lenses.

In 1970 Gun Control was widely accepted and there was no organized pushback or resistance against it. Many cities banned guns outright with no repercussions and in just a couple of decades in the 1990s gun control's high water mark would hit with the Federal Assault Weapon Ban. Here in 2023 not only have all these laws been swept away, more and more states have adopted less restrictions on gun rights.

In 1970 tax rates were high across the board and economic theory was completely dominated by Keynsians in both political parties. Here in 2023 Keynsians have been discredited completely on the right and only survive on the left in the form of Neo-Keynsians. Meanwhile the right has pretty much wholesale adopted Austrian and other related economic schools of thought that are focused on personal liberty and government non-intervention in the economy.

Admittedly, that does amount mostly to saying the Conservatives conquered the conservatives. Which isn't nothing, to be fair.

Recognizing what the right has won does require recognizing just how much the right did not exist, at least on its current shape. You either has to go "there were no right wingers in any government before 1990", or what the right is has radically changed since the 1990s, in which case the question might be "what of 1970s conservatism has been conserved".

This is an interesting point, because pointing out what the right has conquered is also saying the US hasn't conserved anything. Because the right didn't even believe in this stuff and didn't exist until the 1990s.

 

[S'task]

Admittedly, that does amount mostly to saying the Conservatives conquered the conservatives. Which isn't nothing, to be fair.

Recognizing what the right has won does require recognizing just how much the right did not exist, at least on its current shape. You either has to go "there were no right wingers in any government before 1990", or what the right is has radically changed since the 1990s, in which case the question might be "what of 1970s conservatism has been conserved".

This is an interesting point, because pointing out what the right has conquered is also saying the US hasn't conserved anything. Because the right didn't even believe in this stuff and didn't exist until the 1990s.

Not really?

Homeschooling going from illegal in every state to legal in every state is a massive victory that happened everywhere, not just in conservative strongholds, and it should be noted that strong truancy laws were not really an "old" idea, that was part of the progressive schooling reforms of the early to mid 20th century. Prior to that era homeschooling was pretty much legal across the country and even the norm among the frontier and with farmers who had no major schools near them.

Likewise gun control is likewise massively rolled back even outside of conservative strongholds, which again is more of a shift to the status quo prior to the Progressive Era, which is where the original gun control laws were made, up until the 1920s people could buy even submachineguns and the like.

Originalism and Textualism going from laughing stock among Constitution Law academia to being basically the dominate form being taught EVEN IN ACADEMIA is also a MASSIVE shift. You don't see many judges or lawyers arguing for the "living constitution" interpretation anymore, that entire school of thought has been discredited and has no real intellectual defenders. Leftists so lost the argument on how to interpret the Constitution that they now seek to discredit it and work AROUND it rather than through it.

I'll grant the last one is more of a Conservatives taking over the American Right / Republican party aspect, but considering before the 1960s Keynesian economics dominated everyone and Austrians and other schools were basically considered cranks that's a massive gain.

So two of the four areas I listed were conservatives arguably rolling things back to much older status quos, and while it's not complete with gun control (or homeschooling arguably), the conservative position on those topics is in line with late 19th century American as opposed to mid-20th century America. One could make an argument that Originalism and Textualism are similarly old, they were arguably the default way of interpreting the Constitution through most of the 19th century, but it's a more complicated issue and the Constitutional questions of the 19th century were not the ones of the 20th and so it's hard to transpose them.

 

[Cherico]

. . .

In 1970 Homeschooling was ILLEGAL across the entire US under truancy laws. Here in 2023 Homeschooling is legal across the entire US with the only restrictions being in some state that require annual testing reports.

In 1970 "Originalism" and "Textualism" were basically the laughingstock of the Constitutional Scholarship world. Here in 2023 even left wing justices give lip service to Originalism and Textualism and those ideologies of Constitutional interpretation dominate the court to the point all Constitutional Law in the US is being understood through those lenses.

In 1970 Gun Control was widely accepted and there was no organized pushback or resistance against it. Many cities banned guns outright with no repercussions and in just a couple of decades in the 1990s gun control's high water mark would hit with the Federal Assault Weapon Ban. Here in 2023 not only have all these laws been swept away, more and more states have adopted less restrictions on gun rights.

In 1970 tax rates were high across the board and economic theory was completely dominated by Keynsians in both political parties. Here in 2023 Keynsians have been discredited completely on the right and only survive on the left in the form of Neo-Keynsians. Meanwhile the right has pretty much wholesale adopted Austrian and other related economic schools of thought that are focused on personal liberty and government non-intervention in the economy.

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while its true that massive gains were made.

The fact is people are far more likely to get fucked over by left wing fuck ups personally then in the past. So while there is some movement you don't really feel it because your getting directly fucked over.

 

[DarthOne]

WATCH: Nancy Pelosi's Daughter Caught on Hidden Camera Admitting January 6 Was a Hoax

WATCH: Nancy Pelosi’s Daughter Caught on Hidden Camera Admitting January 6 Was a Hoax

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Nancy Pelosi's nepo-baby, Alexandra, was caught on camera admitting essentially that January 6 and the ensuing prosecutions were a marketing gimmick to propagandize the public for the benefit of the Democrat Party.

The video, apparently filmed surreptitiously in the style of Project Veritas and released by CitizenLens, reportedly between Pelosi and a January 6 defendant she was courting so as to appear in her documentary of the event, featured Pelosi discussing the political implications of the Jan 6 show trials and their effects on the upcoming 2022 mid-term elections.

After the Democrats lose the House and then they get rid of the committee, people may lose interest. The first trials are gonna get a lot of attention. It's like [an] anniversary; the first one is a big deal… No one's gonna care after the Democrats are out of power. And then take Biden out of office, then who cares?...
I know you're not the bad guys [to the Jan 6 defendant]…
If it was an insurrection… you were supposed to have a plan…. You're going to be able to laugh about this one day.



She then goes on to explain how she knows Gavin McInnes (the purported former leader of the Proud Boys) and used, in fact, to party with him. She knows that he's a provocateur and doesn't actually mean what he says.

It's all bread and circuses, people.

Notice the dispassionate tone of the clip above in which Pelosi is soberly analyzing the political strategy behind the Jan 6 propaganda and the acknowledgment that what happened was not an insurrection compared to the unhinged public utterances of Democrat partisans about how THE LITERAL FOUNDATIONS OF DEMOCRACY™ ARE CRUMBLING IN REAL TIME AND HITLER IS ON THE MARCH.

… And it becomes very clear that the pearl-clutching and the Capitol police officer crying on the stand and Liz Cheney posturing as if she has any principles whatsoever was all a cynical weaponization of a one-off riot — not an insurrection by any means (the rioters didn't even bring guns to the "insurrection" for God's sake; who believes they were really trying to "take the Capitol"?) — for political gain.

It was a cheap trick. Alas, the MSNBC viewers of the world on their 12th boosters love cheap tricks.

Meanwhile, Alexandra Pelosi made out like a bandit, on top of all the political capital they squeezed out of Jan 6, with her stupid documentary and the fawning media coverage she got for it.

 

[strunkenwhite]

Learning the ways of the enemy is a just fancy way of saying that you should become like your enemy,

To clarify, when you say "learn" here do you mean "adopt"? If so, thanks for clarifying. Otherwise, please elaborate: I don't think learning about a thing is the same as agreeing with that thing.

 

[DarthOne]

J6 Defendant Sues CREW Leftists for Selectively Editing and Presenting Confirmed Lies as Evidence in the Trump Colorado Election Lawsuit – Seeks $7.2 Million for Defamation

J6 Defendant Sues CREW Leftists for Selectively Editing and Presenting Confirmed Lies as Evidence in the Trump Colorado Election Lawsuit - Seeks $7.2 Million for Defamation | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Democrats were caught pushing fraudulent evidence at the Trump trial in Colorado earlier this month.

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Democrats were caught pushing fraudulent evidence at the Trump trial in Colorado earlier this month.

The Democrat Party's far-left attorneys in Colorado attempted to toss President Trump from the ballot in the state by any means necessary. They're so confident with their candidate Joe Biden that they want to toss Trump from the ballot – just like any communist regime ever.

During their opening remarks, the Trump-hating attorneys shared two clips of President Trump's speech at the Ellipse to a million-plus supporters on January 6, 2021.


The Democrats insist that President Trump started a violent riot. But they refused to play video of his statement calling on his supporters to "peacefully march" to the US Capitol.

But that's not all.

The prosecuting attorneys also lied about the timeline of events they showed the court in their opening remarks.

The attorneys misrepresented the time stamps on the videos they played in court – not by minutes but by hours!

The prosecutors claimed the speech by Treniss Evans on the US Capitol Steps took place at 2:24 PM on Jan. 6.

The speech by J6 defendant Treniss Evans actually took place at 4:22 PM not at 2:24 PM! — TWO FULL HOURS LATER!

The Democrats were trying everything to get President Trump thrown off of the ballot in Colorado.

They even falsified their video evidence and timestamps!

This is perjury – and it took place in their opening statements!

Now J6 defendant Treniss Evans is suing the prosecutors in the case for $7.2 million in the same Colorado court for defamation!

Here is a copy of the legal filing.

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Treniss Evans wrote us today.

I've attached the Amicus Curiae Brief (friend of the court) filed in The Colorado Supreme Court case to keep Donald Trump off the ballot for the 2024 Election filed 11-29-2024.

The brief contains facts discrediting the assertions of CREW (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington) to assert that Donald J. Trump incited an insurrection on January 6th. These assertions using a fraudulently altered video of Mr. Evans as the first attack on Donald Trump were incorrect and initially created by The Select Committee.

Opening arguments of Eric Olson as counsel for CREW provided false information to the court by regurgitating the known lies of The January 6th Select Committee to investigate the so-called "attack on the United States Capitol on January 6th." Shamefully, these allegations through video with altered time stamps were perpetrated on the American people a second time on the 4th day of court while Amy Kramer was on the witness stand. The attorneys could not locate the person in the video in a timely manner, who they eventually found to be Mr. Evans to testify regarding the absurdity of the allegations.

Treniss Evans responded immediately by filing a 7.2-million-dollar defamation complaint in the same court where the original case aimed to remove Donald Trump from the Colorado ballot.

The original defamation case and the Colorado Supreme Court Brief as Amicus Curiae are attached.

SUMMARY: The case is built on the LIES and MISINFORMATION provided by THE SELECT COMMITTEE, which Mr. Evans has proven to be a fraud on the people. Could you read the facts of the case and conclude as a reasonable person?

Mr. Evans is also working on a groundbreaking effort for change of venue and is prepared to overturn landmark case law in the process.

As the founder of CondemnedUSA (the leading legal advocacy working on January 6th cases) Mr. Evans has assisted in both the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys trials and dozens of other cases. The cases CondemnedUSA has been a part of have beaten more counts levied against January 6th defendants than any other group. Mr. Evans is desperately seeking donations for these incredibly expensive efforts poised to save our country and our patriots.

Please use the link below to donate today!

https://www.givesendgo.com/G3MZB

 

[Blasterbot]

J6 Defendant Sues CREW Leftists for Selectively Editing and Presenting Confirmed Lies as Evidence in the Trump Colorado Election Lawsuit – Seeks $7.2 Million for Defamation

Democrats lying?

 

[DarthOne]

Shocking report: Jan. 6 deposition tapes are GONE

Photo: Alamy Shocking new information from Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., appears to prove that President Trump was right yet again when it comes to the Jan. 6 Select Committee, which closed up shop earlier this year after an inconclusive investigation and hours of witness testimony. During an...

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JAN. 6 DEPOSITION TAPES ARE GONE

Rep. Loudermilk stated that the Jan. 6 Committee did not preserve their deposition tapes; confirming that Trump was right that they'd destroy them

 

[posh-goofiness]

The only thing needed by the select comittee was the show. Mere evidence, facts, and procedure are irrelevant to their true goal of creating the illusion necessary to persecute the innocent.

 

[strunkenwhite]

That accusation had better be true, because that is absolutely fucking disgusting.