Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

StormEagle

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Like with many that, at one time, were considered on the edge of “acceptable” liberalism, Maher has changed very little over the years.

The leftist movement has just marched so far leftwards that it has left him behind.

Like many liberals of yesteryear, Maher is becoming politically homeless. The leftists are turning on him, and many older republicans want nothing to do with him because of past mockeries.

I watch his career path with mild interest.
 

Cherico

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Like with many that, at one time, were considered on the edge of “acceptable” liberalism, Maher has changed very little over the years.

The leftist movement has just marched so far leftwards that it has left him behind.

Like many liberals of yesteryear, Maher is becoming politically homeless. The leftists are turning on him, and many older republicans want nothing to do with him because of past mockeries.

I watch his career path with mild interest.

The revolution he supported ate its young.
 

S'task

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Wasn't he one of the New Atheist's? That was a pretty niche Liberal stance that died in infancy.
I've explained what happened with the New Atheists before:

New Atheism was a tool used by the Left and Progressive movement to attack one of the core constituents of the American Right. Once they were no longer useful for that, which they rapidly became since, they have been discarded.

To be frank, the "new atheist" critique of Christianity was nothing new and was mainly just popularizing and rehashing old arguments. I'll be honest, I never saw a "New Atheist" critique of religion or Christianity that was new or that had not been answered by Christian apologetics numerous times over in the past. It's success mainly came in that much of the American Christian Church had systemically failed to educate it's membership in apologetics, and so most of it's success came when arguing against those who were not educated on those answers. Plus they were propped up by the media who saw them as useful pawns against those on the right.

Once the New Atheists became a risk of driving away Muslim voters, whom were seen as a more rapidly growing demographic than atheists, plus with the rise of Intersectionality as the driving ideology of the Left (whom the main proponents of New Atheism failed to have high standing in), you saw the movement splinter.

What's been very interesting to me is the number of people who were formally New Atheists whom did not buy into Intersectionality and how they've slowly come to understand the value of Christianity in western civilization over time. There's been quite a number who have turned around and said that while they still are atheists, they regret going so hard against Christianity as it has become clear that a lot of the foundational values of the west were founded in it, and without that foundation, things get ugly.

Thus, in some ways, the New Atheist movement was splintered by the rise of Intersectionality. Intersectionality likely absorbed the majority of the New Atheists, and those New Atheists who were not left wing have for the most part realized that Christianity is actually the much lesser of two evils and so have become focused on Intersectionality.
 

S'task

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Err... the practice of what? Sending Federal money to big tech companies? Or something else? I don't mean to be a nay-sayer because I like the audit bit, but the Federal government has contracts for major infrastructure that they use that's provided by Big Tech companies and that only those Big Tech companies can really provide... to say nothing of the general bog standard license agreements they pay for for using industry standard software like... Windows.
 

posh-goofiness

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Yeah, the moratorium isn't a good idea. I really doubt she knows anything about how the tech industry operates.

Man, what would happen to GovCloud if this passed? Or the intelligence agency version whose name escapes me right now.
 

posh-goofiness

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There are always trade offs, far as I'm concerned were safer letting local and state police have that then an out of control FBI.
Again, sure. But what happens when half the federal government tries to boot their machines and they just lock up? Or they try to VPN into work and the OpenVPN license is deactivated? Or what about their revs that rely on OpenShift that suddenly isn't working anymore? Or you try and visit whitehouse.gov and their Nginx lices is gone? Or...
 

Cherico

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Again, sure. But what happens when half the federal government tries to boot their machines and they just lock up? Or they try to VPN into work and the OpenVPN license is deactivated? Or what about their revs that rely on OpenShift that suddenly isn't working anymore? Or you try and visit whitehouse.gov and their Nginx lices is gone? Or...

Once again maybe they should have thought about that before depriving americans of their consitutional rights.

With out conquences they will never learn.
 

LordsFire

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Again, sure. But what happens when half the federal government tries to boot their machines and they just lock up? Or they try to VPN into work and the OpenVPN license is deactivated? Or what about their revs that rely on OpenShift that suddenly isn't working anymore? Or you try and visit whitehouse.gov and their Nginx lices is gone? Or...

Don't threaten me with a good time.
 

S'task

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You guys really don't get it.

It's not "without these licenses the Federal government ceases working", it's "without these licenses and ongoing support the Federal government's IT infrastructure becomes more outdated and vulnerable to attack than it already is and your personal information will be stolen".

Look, the Federal Government will not stop doing business, it will continue to use whatever software it wants so the bureaucracy keeps moving. Microsoft doesn't have a kill switch where they can just turn off government computers that are no longer paying for their Windows license, the government doesn't ALLOW shit like that on their networks. The Federal government uses their own special forks off all the major software that is supposed to adhere to the government NIST standards, and an outside of their control killswitch is way outside those standards.

But you know what WOULD happen? Microsoft and the other companies will stop making patches for those government machines running Windows. Whatever big security loophole is found by Black Hat hackers... it won't be patched, and every Federal government computer could potentially be vulnerable. And here's the thing, it won't be the Federal government that suffers when data is lost, it will be CITIZENS. It will be YOUR private data, YOUR IRS files, YOUR Passport information that will be lost. YOU will be the ones facing the damage, and, because the government was cut off from continual support by their own law, you know what? They're NOT GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE for said data loss... because they were just following the law.

And I'm not kidding about how this works. I know how this works. This kind of stuff is LITERALLY MY JOB. I know how the State Department acted when huge amounts of the Passport processing software was out of date and no longer being supported by the providing companies... to say they didn't care and it was like pulling teeth to get them to update is an understatement...
 
You guys really don't get it.

It's not "without these licenses the Federal government ceases working", it's "without these licenses and ongoing support the Federal government's IT infrastructure becomes more outdated and vulnerable to attack than it already is and your personal information will be stolen".

Look, the Federal Government will not stop doing business, it will continue to use whatever software it wants so the bureaucracy keeps moving. Microsoft doesn't have a kill switch where they can just turn off government computers that are no longer paying for their Windows license, the government doesn't ALLOW shit like that on their networks. The Federal government uses their own special forks off all the major software that is supposed to adhere to the government NIST standards, and an outside of their control killswitch is way outside those standards.

But you know what WOULD happen? Microsoft and the other companies will stop making patches for those government machines running Windows. Whatever big security loophole is found by Black Hat hackers... it won't be patched, and every Federal government computer could potentially be vulnerable. And here's the thing, it won't be the Federal government that suffers when data is lost, it will be CITIZENS. It will be YOUR private data, YOUR IRS files, YOUR Passport information that will be lost. YOU will be the ones facing the damage, and, because the government was cut off from continual support by their own law, you know what? They're NOT GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE for said data loss... because they were just following the law.

And I'm not kidding about how this works. I know how this works. This kind of stuff is LITERALLY MY JOB. I know how the State Department acted when huge amounts of the Passport processing software was out of date and no longer being supported by the providing companies... to say they didn't care and it was like pulling teeth to get them to update is an understatement...

The sooner civilization and technology collapses the better. why don't we just plug our brains into VR while we're at it.
 

Wargamer08

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You guys really don't get it.

It's not "without these licenses the Federal government ceases working", it's "without these licenses and ongoing support the Federal government's IT infrastructure becomes more outdated and vulnerable to attack than it already is and your personal information will be stolen".

Look, the Federal Government will not stop doing business, it will continue to use whatever software it wants so the bureaucracy keeps moving. Microsoft doesn't have a kill switch where they can just turn off government computers that are no longer paying for their Windows license, the government doesn't ALLOW shit like that on their networks. The Federal government uses their own special forks off all the major software that is supposed to adhere to the government NIST standards, and an outside of their control killswitch is way outside those standards.

But you know what WOULD happen? Microsoft and the other companies will stop making patches for those government machines running Windows. Whatever big security loophole is found by Black Hat hackers... it won't be patched, and every Federal government computer could potentially be vulnerable. And here's the thing, it won't be the Federal government that suffers when data is lost, it will be CITIZENS. It will be YOUR private data, YOUR IRS files, YOUR Passport information that will be lost. YOU will be the ones facing the damage, and, because the government was cut off from continual support by their own law, you know what? They're NOT GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE for said data loss... because they were just following the law.

And I'm not kidding about how this works. I know how this works. This kind of stuff is LITERALLY MY JOB. I know how the State Department acted when huge amounts of the Passport processing software was out of date and no longer being supported by the providing companies... to say they didn't care and it was like pulling teeth to get them to update is an understatement...
Sounds like the IT equivalent of shelling your own position to hit the enemy. Don't care, fire away. Also, I'm far, far more worried about what the government does with my data. A black hat hacker just robs me once.

I'm increasingly tired of government agencies holding the people of a country hostage to prevent measures to curtail their power and misdeeds. Let the sky fall and justice be done.
 

Cherico

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Sounds like the IT equivalent of shelling your own position to hit the enemy. Don't care, fire away. Also, I'm far, far more worried about what the government does with my data. A black hat hacker just robs me once.

I'm increasingly tired of government agencies holding the people of a country hostage to prevent measures to curtail their power and misdeeds. Let the sky fall and justice be done.

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Zachowon

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You are also basically saying "Hey, enemies of the US. Here is every thing you need to know about us"
Because now the military doesn't have that. Allowing for us to basically be defenseless
 

DarthOne

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You are also basically saying "Hey, enemies of the US. Here is every thing you need to know about us"
Because now the military doesn't have that. Allowing for us to basically be defenseless
What part of ‘let the sky fall and justice be done’ didn’t you get? If the military had done its damn job we would not be here.
 

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