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[Captain X]

No, no they don't.

Yes, they do. I know some personally. As I said, three siblings, and only one of them looks Native, while the others look entirely white. They all meet blood quantum requirements and are registered member of a tribe. Are you denying their existence just because you have a hate boner for Sargon?

Then why didn't he mention it in his interview? During the interview, he was pressed on the point of how harmful his comments were to rape victims. He claimed that ONE person, whose name he would not provide, had messaged him and thanked him for his rape jokes. He was so cavalier about throwing his wife out there before, when heckled on the street, why not talk about how his wife was raped? And how his rape jokes had helped her? Instead, he doesn't mention his wife at all.

It's almost as if he flat out lied about his wife being raped when he was being heckled, because he thought no one had noticed. And when he was pressed by the interviewer, he claimed sexual assault. Did not expand upon what had happened to him to qualify as sexual assault, but claimed it nonetheless. No matter which way you slice it, if his wife had been raped, supported him, and his behavior--then he would have brought it up in the BBC interview.

Or she just didn't like him putting it out there like that. This also doesn't disprove him getting assaulted.

Some alt-right conman. He'd been involved with a deal or business venture that had gone bad. Sargon had taken his dox from kiwi farms and put it up in a video. And look, if Sargon had a change or heart, that's fine. The problem is with Sargon is that he kept insisting that he wasn't for doxing and at the same time--let Kraut get tarred and feathered for having a doxing server. Let him take the entire fall all on his own.

If Sargon had a change of heart, that's one thing. If he felt exceptions should be made, that's also one thing. But he was trying to play to the Skeptic crowd and his own past complaints about being doxed.

I guess I feel pretty indifferently toward it and don't really care if some con-man got doxxed. That makes Sargon a bit of a hypocrite, but hardly the horrible person you make him out to be.

Wait, hold on.

It's not a joke you would have made. So you agree that it was a joke made in poor taste, right?

Indeed.

So why couldn't Carl Benjamin just say that it was in poor taste and that in hindsight, it was immature and doesn't represent himself or his campaign? Because that would have blunted the damage. It would never fully go away, but it would have kept the media from using it to repeatedly attack him or his party.

No it wouldn't. If anything it would have gotten worse because then he would be admitting to it and they would have what amounted to a confession to point at. I really don't blame him for not giving them the satisfaction. It would have been better had he not made the joke at all, but he did.

Donald Trump knew better. Even he apologized for his "Grab them by the pussy" comment.

He did? If so, I guess we can see how well that helped him, considering people were still accusing him of sexual assault because of it.

If Carl had simply made the same excuse, he would have fared much better. Instead, he didn't apologize and the media was able to paint him as a remorseless psychopath who hated women.

They would have done so anyway, even if they didn't have the joke to point at.

But that's not the only morality. In fact, it is the minority. The other large, but minority moral group is Libertarian. Libertarians are generally very high in Liberty, but very low in almost all other things.

Am I now?

They care most primarily about their personal freedom.

The horror.

Almost any intent on limiting that freedom is deemed as a great evil.

Well, yeah, you got that part right. It's hardly my only concern, though.

An extreme example is Sovereign Citizens, who go to great extents to skirt or disobey the law. Turning a traffic ticket into serious prison time because they refuse to pay their fines or provide their information or whatever. But Libertarians are actually really good at cutting through red tape where it doesn't make any sense.

Well at least you admit that they're extremists. The number one thing I see is the claim that we're all anarchists, because wanting to limit government equates to not wanting any government, apparently.

And then there are Conservatives. Conservatives are relatively balanced in all areas of morality.

Personal experience tells me otherwise. At times I kind of feel like I'm the only one who remembers the first few years of the current century.

In any case, I'm not really go into it too much. I'm actually already aware of it as this is one of the things you tend to bring up a lot.

Now, I know that's sort of a TLDR moment, but try to stick with me. What Sargon suggested to the Alt-Right wouldn't work because the Alt-Right aren't liberals. They aren't high in caring. So anything the Alt-Right thought leaders tried with SJW tactics wouldn't work because their own support base wouldn't care, because it does not strongly violate their own morality. In fact, as there is a high likelyhood that many Alt-Right are low in caring, it would actively turn off their audience. Which is why MillennialWoes was mostly just confused at the suggestion.

I guess I assumed he meant stuff like doxxing or using something like cancel culture to apply pressure to companies. That actually kind of worked during GamerGate until people seemingly got bored and stopped bothering. But this is undoubtedly part of the reason why the leftists still bring up GamerGate as their great satan.

Could you be more specific?

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but aren't you one of the Never-Trumpers who is just ignoring all the evidence of election fraud and actually does see the 1/6 Capital protest as an attempted insurrection and all that? And of course there's that morality point stuff you discussed above.

*Frankly, that Sargon thought of Metokur as some sort of internet activist. Metokur basically jumpstarted Gamergate. And Sargon and others within the Skeptic group always held him up as a sort of leader. And Sargon even accused Metokur of running away from his responsibilities. And Sargon felt that Metokur was swinging on over to become Alt-Right. In reality, Metokur has always just been an internet troll.

I have to admit, I kind of felt the same way back when he was still the Internet Aristocrat only to run away later on, and is why I don't really hold him in high regard. But I understand him a bit better now, and frankly this is why I don't think all that much of him.

 

[Zachowon]

This is Quarter Black garret. How dad is a very dark black skinned man. Yet, here is he not that black.

At 7:44, you can see a picture of his dad.

It is possible Sargon could have black family members? Yes. Is it likely since he is British? No

 

[Captain X]

Are there no black British citizens?

 

[Zachowon]

Are there no black British citizens?

There are, but there is a diffrencr in percentage, and the like.
The black population in the US is higher and has been more intermingled then that if the English

 

[Captain X]

So it's entirely possible that his grandfather was black and British?

 

[Zachowon]

So it's entirely possible that his grandfather was black and British?

Possible. Improbable though

 

[Captain X]

If it's possible than I see it as entirely bullshit to just assume it isn't the case, unless you have some proof to the contrary. I happen to be mixed myself, incidentally, and one of the things that led me to refer to the regressive left by that name is that they like to alternate between pretending people like me do not exist, and just openly hating the fact that we do. So I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt unless someone has proof otherwise.

 

[Zachowon]

Going off of numbers and history.
Americans were more to intermingle with the blacks then I'm England

 

[Captain X]

If it's possible than I see it as entirely bullshit to just assume it isn't the case, unless you have some proof to the contrary. I happen to be mixed myself, incidentally, and one of the things that led me to refer to the regressive left by that name is that they like to alternate between pretending people like me do not exist, and just openly hating the fact that we do. So I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt unless someone has proof otherwise.

 

[The Original Sixth]

Sixth, either source some actual evidence proving your points, or stop trying to assert them.

Or what? You'll shit the bed?

Yes, they do. I know some personally. As I said, three siblings, and only one of them looks Native, while the others look entirely white. They all meet blood quantum requirements and are registered member of a tribe. Are you denying their existence just because you have a hate boner for Sargon?

Hold up. We're talking about black people, who have a much darker skin tone and very thick and curly hair. Why the fuck are you talking about Native Americans? Do you honestly think that's the same? You realize that European DNA has intermingled with Asian DNA for thousands of years, right? And that Native Americans are an offshoot of the Asian group? As opposed to Negroid, which was much more isolated for centuries due to geography?

Or she just didn't like him putting it out there like that. This also doesn't disprove him getting assaulted.

Sure, maybe. Those are all possible.

I guess I feel pretty indifferently toward it and don't really care if some con-man got doxxed. That makes Sargon a bit of a hypocrite, but hardly the horrible person you make him out to be.

I don't care about Coach Redpill either. What little I do know suggests to me that he's a joke at best, a conman most likely. My problem is that at the same time, Sargon was still trying to appeal to the internet heavy crowd. Many of whom didn't want to be doxxed. And he went to great lengths to keep that internet cred, even after it came out that he probably did know about Kraut's doxing server. And that was a big deal, because they didn't just have the alt-right there, they had right-wing conservative youtubers that they were targeting.

No it wouldn't. If anything it would have gotten worse because then he would be admitting to it and they would have what amounted to a confession to point at. I really don't blame him for not giving them the satisfaction. It would have been better had he not made the joke at all, but he did.

That's wrong. Admitting you were wrong can blunt the damage. That doesn't mean that the media will stop, but it's step one. You have to be able to present a positive message and show that you have women on your side. Trump was able to do that because he played it off as "guys will be guys" sort of deal and moved past it. That's why he WON the election. Maybe you don't remember, but he was absolutely getting the shit kicked out of him for two days for what he'd said. Because the media had planned right before the next debate.

Trump reversed the damage when he admitted to his mistake and pivoted to attacking the Clintons for their alleged abuse of women. It was perhaps, one of the greatest presidential debates ever. Trump not only stopped his loss in support, he reversed some of the damage. Because he came out fighting. And he did it well. The media wanted to keep hitting him on it, but they simply didn't have any leverage after he apologized and explained himself. The audience had already received closure, whether they liked the end result or not.

He did? If so, I guess we can see how well that helped him, considering people were still accusing him of sexual assault because of it.

That was ongoing before and after the incident. But that's not a new dirty tactic from the Democrats of that time. Whenever they found a threat to themselves, they'd quickly find a woman who was willing to make a rape accusation.

They would have done so anyway, even if they didn't have the joke to point at.

None of their accusations took hold. If anything, it destroyed the method of using a claimed rape victim to destroy a politician.

Am I now?

No, the average libertarian is. An individual can vary.

Well at least you admit that they're extremists. The number one thing I see is the claim that we're all anarchists, because wanting to limit government equates to not wanting any government, apparently.

I'm not sure if they're anarchists. Most traditional anarchists seem to actually come from the left, but maybe I'm wrong there. In any case, most libertarians seem to like local government or minimal government.

Personal experience tells me otherwise. At times I kind of feel like I'm the only one who remembers the first few years of the current century.

In any case, I'm not really go into it too much. I'm actually already aware of it as this is one of the things you tend to bring up a lot.

Again, individual conservatives can vary. And yes, I bring it up a lot. I think it's important. Although, it was at one point moving through part of the conservative sphere. Interest seems to have died down...

I guess I assumed he meant stuff like doxxing or using something like cancel culture to apply pressure to companies. That actually kind of worked during GamerGate until people seemingly got bored and stopped bothering. But this is undoubtedly part of the reason why the leftists still bring up GamerGate as their great satan.

Most leftists don't care. The world has moved on.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but aren't you one of the Never-Trumpers who is just ignoring all the evidence of election fraud and actually does see the 1/6 Capital protest as an attempted insurrection and all that? And of course there's that morality point stuff you discussed above.

No, I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. I do not see enough compelling evidence that the Democrats cheated in 2020. They might have and I don't put it past them. But then again, Republican representatives confirmed the counts. What I do know though, is that the Democrats changed the rules of mail-in-voting at the last minute with court orders, which is probably what had the greatest effect. And I see that Republicans are mostly focused on addressing those laws, which tells me that was the greatest threat.

It may not be true, but I'm not going to spend 4 years being angry about it. It takes too much energy. So did they cheat? Maybe. Maybe not. Were they underhanded? Absolutely. Is it likely to happen again? Maybe, but I doubt it.

I have to admit, I kind of felt the same way back when he was still the Internet Aristocrat only to run away later on, and is why I don't really hold him in high regard. But I understand him a bit better now, and frankly this is why I don't think all that much of him.

I'm sorry to hear that, but Jim was always just an internet troll. He was never out there to become a leader or an activist.

This is Quarter Black garret. How dad is a very dark black skinned man. Yet, here is he not that black.

At 7:44, you can see a picture of his dad.

It is possible Sargon could have black family members? Yes. Is it likely since he is British? No

I'm honestly skeptical about Quarter Black too. But only because they had an ongoing joke about NotGayJared being secretly gay. But he looks more black than Carl could.

There are, but there is a diffrencr in percentage, and the like.
The black population in the US is higher and has been more intermingled then that if the English

There are maybe 2 million black people in the UK, as of 2011. That's about 3% of the population. And there were likely less when Carl was born, as immigration to the UK increased in the past few decades. It makes Carl's claim questionable. Especially as he's never expanded upon it. I can't prove it unless he gets a DNA test or I stalk his family tree, but there you have it.

 

[Zachowon]

Or what? You'll shit the bed?



Hold up. We're talking about black people, who have a much darker skin tone and very thick and curly hair. Why the fuck are you talking about Native Americans? Do you honestly think that's the same? You realize that European DNA has intermingled with Asian DNA for thousands of years, right? And that Native Americans are an offshoot of the Asian group? As opposed to Negroid, which was much more isolated for centuries due to geography?



Sure, maybe. Those are all possible.



I don't care about Coach Redpill either. What little I do know suggests to me that he's a joke at best, a conman most likely. My problem is that at the same time, Sargon was still trying to appeal to the internet heavy crowd. Many of whom didn't want to be doxxed. And he went to great lengths to keep that internet cred, even after it came out that he probably did know about Kraut's doxing server. And that was a big deal, because they didn't just have the alt-right there, they had right-wing conservative youtubers that they were targeting.




That's wrong. Admitting you were wrong can blunt the damage. That doesn't mean that the media will stop, but it's step one. You have to be able to present a positive message and show that you have women on your side. Trump was able to do that because he played it off as "guys will be guys" sort of deal and moved past it. That's why he WON the election. Maybe you don't remember, but he was absolutely getting the shit kicked out of him for two days for what he'd said. Because the media had planned right before the next debate.

Trump reversed the damage when he admitted to his mistake and pivoted to attacking the Clintons for their alleged abuse of women. It was perhaps, one of the greatest presidential debates ever. Trump not only stopped his loss in support, he reversed some of the damage. Because he came out fighting. And he did it well. The media wanted to keep hitting him on it, but they simply didn't have any leverage after he apologized and explained himself. The audience had already received closure, whether they liked the end result or not.




That was ongoing before and after the incident. But that's not a new dirty tactic from the Democrats of that time. Whenever they found a threat to themselves, they'd quickly find a woman who was willing to make a rape accusation.



None of their accusations took hold. If anything, it destroyed the method of using a claimed rape victim to destroy a politician.



No, the average libertarian is. An individual can vary.



I'm not sure if they're anarchists. Most traditional anarchists seem to actually come from the left, but maybe I'm wrong there. In any case, most libertarians seem to like local government or minimal government.



Again, individual conservatives can vary. And yes, I bring it up a lot. I think it's important. Although, it was at one point moving through part of the conservative sphere. Interest seems to have died down...




Most leftists don't care. The world has moved on.



No, I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. I do not see enough compelling evidence that the Democrats cheated in 2020. They might have and I don't put it past them. But then again, Republican representatives confirmed the counts. What I do know though, is that the Democrats changed the rules of mail-in-voting at the last minute with court orders, which is probably what had the greatest effect. And I see that Republicans are mostly focused on addressing those laws, which tells me that was the greatest threat.

It may not be true, but I'm not going to spend 4 years being angry about it. It takes too much energy. So did they cheat? Maybe. Maybe not. Were they underhanded? Absolutely. Is it likely to happen again? Maybe, but I doubt it.



I'm sorry to hear that, but Jim was always just an internet troll. He was never out there to become a leader or an activist.





I'm honestly skeptical about Quarter Black too. But only because they had an ongoing joke about NotGayJared being secretly gay. But he looks more black than Carl could.



There are maybe 2 million black people in the UK, as of 2011. That's about 3% of the population. And there were likely less when Carl was born, as immigration to the UK increased in the past few decades. It makes Carl's claim questionable. Especially as he's never expanded upon it. I can't prove it unless he gets a DNA test or I stalk his family tree, but there you have it.

I get they made that joke, but Steven has even met his father so, I dont doubt irs real

 

[Sobek]

I never gave a shit about his feud with Sargon not cared enough. I like Sargon and Metokur for different things and as far as I could tell the feud was more of a little trolling that happened WHILE Sargon was going to run for office and he fucked that up on his own. IIRC the real issue was not the "I wouldn't even rape you" or that Sargon didn't apologize, but that contrary to what his own friends and allies said Sargon refused to lawyer up and use Britain's libel laws to defend himself and force places to issue a comment with his side of the story to explain the context. He went too hard on the ideological hill instead of backing down into real-politik to do the sensible thing.

I think his Lotus Eaters thing is working much better now. Wonder what Metokur is gonna do. Maybe his cancer healed enough?

 

[The Original Sixth]

Lol, this asshole isn't even on the stream and he's already made several hundred dollars.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I get they made that joke, but Steven has even met his father so, I dont doubt irs real

I don't keep up with the show, so I wouldn't know.

 

[LordsFire]

Or what? You'll shit the bed?

No, I'll just consider your word to have less credibility than I used to. And with responses like this, it's dropped even lower.

If your purpose in posting all this stuff is to convince people of the position you're putting forward, you're having the exact opposite effect. Proof would have been the way to do that, not childish responses.

 

[Captain X]

Just seems pretty low to me to try to tell a man his own heritage. He could be lying as a "take that" against the regressive left, but this would only cause them to pivot to "colorism," their go-to favorite to explain anyone who doesn't have a drop of European blood in them but still isn't on board with their bullshit. Not to mention that they now make a distinction between physical heritage and being "politically" Black (with a capitol B). The point remains, though, that you're just playing internet scientist to try to claim you know this man's heritage and really, you don't know and have no proof of it.