Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

Husky_Khan

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Question: How did we get to this discussion from Iranian threats?
Follow-up question: Why is it still relevant?

ATP said Iran shouldn't be struck because they protect Oriental Orthodox Churches (which is arguably true in some cases through confederates like the Free Patriotic Movement/Hezbollah in Lebanon). And Oriental Orthodox are true Christians.

Marduk said who is Iran to determine who are true Christians and who are the Great Satan Christians and bomb them or not.

ATP said it's not Iran, but common sense that only Orthodox and Catholics are True Christians.

Marduk replied both ATP and Iran aren't good metrics of Common Sense.

King Arts then said who is Marduk to determine who are really Christians. King Arts then determined the only real Christians are Eastern/Oriental Orthodox.

In my professional anal-ysis, King Arts drifted the topic since his response was only in regards to True Christians while Marduk/ATP were pasta posting about everything including Iran still. 😛

Followup Answer: Not relevant in the least.
 

Tiamat

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Question: How did we get to this discussion from Iranian threats?
Follow-up question: Why is it still relevant?

ATP said Iran shouldn't be struck because they protect Oriental Orthodox Churches (which is arguably true in some cases through confederates like the Free Patriotic Movement/Hezbollah in Lebanon). And Oriental Orthodox are true Christians.

Marduk said who is Iran to determine who are true Christians and who are the Great Satan Christians and bomb them or not.

ATP said it's not Iran, but common sense that only Orthodox and Catholics are True Christians.

Marduk replied both ATP and Iran aren't good metrics of Common Sense.

King Arts then said who is Marduk to determine who are really Christians. King Arts then determined the only real Christians are Eastern/Oriental Orthodox.

In my professional anal-ysis, King Arts drifted the topic since his response was only in regards to True Christians while Marduk/ATP were pasta posting about everything including Iran still. 😛

Followup Answer: Not relevant in the least.


IRAN: "Hey, infidels, are you forgetting about us? What are we, chopped liver to you?" (NOTE: No liver of the pork variety. Please note, no pigs were harmed in the creation of this message.)



PRAISE ALLAH!
 

ATP

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Both Iran and you are the opposite of people who have any right to decide what constitutes common sense.
I am not state,you knew...And,churches are real when you could track apostolic lineage to Apostles times.
Otherwise,it is sect made by various dudes who hear voices.
Again, you didn't address the point. Soviet Union fell, despite not being a democracy, yet China, NK and Cuba stand.
Becouse Reagan used cheap oil and Star Wars to kill their economy.If he only keep taking,soviets would be taking USA now.
Whatever, i reject your conspiracy theories and substitute my own preferred versions, checkmate pal.
Your conspiracy theories,you mean.
So you have just described a classic safety vent strategy used by many dictatorships. Let groups that could be messy to deal with and are trouble to power leave on good terms before things that cannot be unsaid and undone happen.
Nope.80-90% jews leaved Poland before 1950,becouse they were real zionists.Those who remained become soviet lapdogs who murdered and tortured poles for being poles.
If our commies decide to hang all of them,nobody would protest.Becouse we remembered how they persecute those who hide jews from germans.
Arabs can't because those who want it are Holocaust denialists so it would be awkward to call for another thing thing that they say didn't happen.
Those aren't even in third world, yet are specific about all Jews.
Hamas ones also don't bother to follow with their western useful idiot's line of distinction between Israelis and Jews.
Hamas get power in Gaza from Izrael,without their help Fatah would still rule there.
Yes they occupy some of the Jewish homeland, that were part of Jewish kingdoms long before Arabs came there. It's called Judea, not Arabia, Arabia is elsewhere.
Palestinians are descendents of bronze age people who lived there before jews come.
And random user with dumb takes is not qualified to judge if a moderator breaks the rules because a moderator shit talked him for his dumb takes.
And random mod lost his right to criticize anybody after breaking Rules.As Mod,you have more duties then we to do not break it.
Yes. If it's a minor assault, it should not be made into an international media event. You don't have a national scandal if some idiot gopnik spits on someone in general, you would be lucky if cops even show up to arrest him.
Nice in theory.In practice,polish police who did notching when mobs attacked churches,hunted one dude who breal window in synagogue.
Not in all, only in some.
I know it demolishes your fictional world where Iran is the good guys and you don't like it, but that fantasy world sucks.
All.Go to Saudi arabia,and try to prozelite some muslim.You would maybe survive,but he/her would die.
And Iran is not good - only less bad then Saudis.And not worst then Izrael - hence,no reason to support anybody there.
I don't see a reason to help the enemies unite even if we would fight them.
Divide et impera.
Then attack those who could be real danger - turks.
All other muslim countries are danger only to countries without army.
Jews returning to the homeland of the Jews, how scandalous.
After 1500 years? somebody here show short movie when italian woman schoot brit dude and take his home,becouse romans ruled there 1500 years ago.
It do not have sense.
No, Israeli tech, they cooperate because they are allies and Israel is good at this.
And Egypt has a lot of liabilities coming with being a big and poor Muslim country.
Allies who help China and Moscov?
And,Egypt is ideal ally for USA just becouse they are weak.
Who is to decide which company gets too big and needs to be destroyed? I will agree, but only if i get to be the guy.
Failing that, i prefer capitalism.
That who create monopoly on anything.And it is not capitalism,when Big Corpo rule.Why they support leftist and socialism? becouse they want to remove REAL capitalists.

Speaking about that - say to your rich friends,that if they stay away from Iran,they could survive,but if they attack iran and destroy christians there,americans would kill them.

Not becouse of iranian christians,but killed americans and damaged USA.

I would answer after 2-3 weeks.
 

King Arts

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Well as a Catholic he on the other hand should care what Vatican says.
I also don't think major Orthodox churches write Evangelicals out of Christianity either.
Either way, it's ridiculous that anyone cares what a Shia Muslim theocracy says about who's a real Christian.
What I’m gonna say might annoy @ATP but he is not a Catholic. Catholics used to be Christian but with the new heretic pope they aren’t any more because they support lgbt. If someone who says they are a Catholic then says that lgbt is a sin then they aren’t really Catholic they are either orthodox or Protestant in denial.

Maybe the most hilarious part of this is that, by and large, here in America Evangelicals are the conservative Christians.

Catholics also make up a decent portion, but it definitely isn't the methodists, episcopalians, or other captured institutions where the core of christian cultural movement in America is happening.
Evangelicals are not conservative they just vote republican. Again I would not say libertarian are conservative even if we work together to oppose the liberals. But again with evangelicals we may agree on quite a few things but there are big issues that make them not conservative.

Protestants often don't look at them selves superior.
Most just want to worship God and live thier lives.
It seems that Orthodox are the ones that go about it a lot, at least the Russian ones...
I mean they kinda do. And you and they do like to shit on orthodox by calling them Russian agents when there are like over a dozen other orthodox churches that are not Russia .
 

Marduk

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I am not state,you knew...And,churches are real when you could track apostolic lineage to Apostles times.
Otherwise,it is sect made by various dudes who hear voices.
Said sects have more members than there are people who agree with you. Why should i care about your opinion over theirs?
Becouse Reagan used cheap oil and Star Wars to kill their economy.If he only keep taking,soviets would be taking USA now.
North Korea's economy was about as dead as one could be, yet it's still there.
Your conspiracy theories,you mean.
Better than yours lol.
Nope.80-90% jews leaved Poland before 1950,becouse they were real zionists.Those who remained become soviet lapdogs who murdered and tortured poles for being poles.
If our commies decide to hang all of them,nobody would protest.Becouse we remembered how they persecute those who hide jews from germans.
Jews before 1950, just like many others, may have had delusions about how communist rule will look like.
Hamas get power in Gaza from Izrael,without their help Fatah would still rule there.
Just because you repeat a stupid history fanfiction doesn't make it any more true.
Palestinians are descendents of bronze age people who lived there before jews come.
Not any more than anyone else in that region, including Jews.
So overall it's a retarded argument people who read half a study think is a "i win" button, but sorry, it's not what you think, and i have the receipts:
Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences.
Genetically speaking, Jews, Palestinians, and all the Arabic peoples within hundreds of kilometers are hard to tell, so if you want to argue genetics, you could switch out Egyptians with Turks and Armenians with Jews and "genetic legitimacy" would still fit.
And random mod lost his right to criticize anybody after breaking Rules.As Mod,you have more duties then we to do not break it.
Sorry, you don't get to decide who lost what right, judge who broke the rules, and what duties mods have, no one made you the site owner.
Nice in theory.In practice,polish police who did notching when mobs attacked churches,hunted one dude who breal window in synagogue.
So? As i said, we should be mad that our political leadership is being hysterical clowns, not that some parts of the world aren't equally unreasonable.
All.Go to Saudi arabia,and try to prozelite some muslim.You would maybe survive,but he/her would die.
And Iran is not good - only less bad then Saudis.And not worst then Izrael - hence,no reason to support anybody there.
Not anymore, as i said. Saudis are getting better, and Iran is getting worse, stop being stuck in 2 decades past.
Then attack those who could be real danger - turks.
All other muslim countries are danger only to countries without army.
Iranians are going for nukes and playing empire, not Turks. Pakistanis have nukes already. Get some fucking basic information before you try play geopolitics with me.
After 1500 years? somebody here show short movie when italian woman schoot brit dude and take his home,becouse romans ruled there 1500 years ago.
It do not have sense.
Well they don't have another homeland, and if they tried to claim one elsewhere people like you would be the first to cry foul.
We got some territories on western border from Germany after WW2 after not owning them for about half that, so don't be that shocked.
Allies who help China and Moscov?
You mean Iran? Whose ballistic missiles and drones is Moscow launching at Ukraine?
And,Egypt is ideal ally for USA just becouse they are weak.
Yeah, and one day they flip to Muslim Brotherhood, luckily a junta happened after few years of that, that's how weak they are, and what a "reliable" ally they can be.
That who create monopoly on anything.And it is not capitalism,when Big Corpo rule.Why they support leftist and socialism? becouse they want to remove REAL capitalists.

Speaking about that - say to your rich friends,that if they stay away from Iran,they could survive,but if they attack iran and destroy christians there,americans would kill them.

Not becouse of iranian christians,but killed americans and damaged USA.

I would answer after 2-3 weeks.
Your simping for Shia theocrats is pathetic and dumb.
 

King Arts

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Genetically speaking, Jews, Palestinians, and all the Arabic peoples within hundreds of kilometers are hard to tell, so if you want to argue genetics, you could switch out Egyptians with Turks and Armenians with Jews and "genetic legitimacy" would still fit.
If you concede that the Palestinians and Jews are related and hard to tell apart. Why do the Jews have a claim to the land but not the Palestinians in your oppinion? If you don't think that Palestinian is a real nationality(as you've said before) but they have genetic history to the land just like the Jews. Wouldn't that just make them Jews in denial?
 

Marduk

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If you concede that the Palestinians and Jews are related and hard to tell apart. Why do the Jews have a claim to the land but not the Palestinians in your oppinion? If you don't think that Palestinian is a real nationality(as you've said before) but they have genetic history to the land just like the Jews. Wouldn't that just make them Jews in denial?
"The land" in question spanning from Egypt to Iran.
Obviously the difference is in national identity, culture and religion (which functionally is part of culture). So it is with many peoples in the world.
Slavs are having a notable war now, Germanics had plenty, so did Celtic nations and so on.
As the article states, the lands from Egypt up to Turkey and Iran are inhabited by people of similar genetic makeup (including also some other distinct in nationality and culture peoples besides Arabs, like Persians) and this is all a dispute between Jews and Arabs about the specific division of borders in that region, with Arabs claiming Jews should get zilch, and failing to enforce their vision through war, switching to proxy war through "Palestinians" being separated out from what previously was universally understood as local Arabs, with the benefit being that the other Arabs aren't getting their countries hit with having lost yet another war.

As such, even if Israel got its wildest dreams in terms of borders, Arabs would still get the lion's share of the region in land, in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and so on.
 
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Doomsought

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If you concede that the Palestinians and Jews are related and hard to tell apart. Why do the Jews have a claim to the land but not the Palestinians in your oppinion? If you don't think that Palestinian is a real nationality(as you've said before) but they have genetic history to the land just like the Jews. Wouldn't that just make them Jews in denial?
Its is a national/religious conflict, not an ethnic one. Israel is a theocratic state that has been established and re-established after conquered in the same location multiple times over the course of millennia. The mandate of Palestine is a distinct of British colonial rule.

The occupants of the Gaza strip aren't even all from the mandate, but instead are the remnants of a genocidal army that invaded Israel and were occupying that territory when peace was negotiated.
 

King Arts

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Its is a national/religious conflict, not an ethnic one. Israel is a theocratic state that has been established and re-established after conquered in the same location multiple times over the course of millennia. The mandate of Palestine is a distinct of British colonial rule.

The occupants of the Gaza strip aren't even all from the mandate, but instead are the remnants of a genocidal army that invaded Israel and were occupying that territory when peace was negotiated.
Most nations are ethnic based, the only ones that aren't are the new ones in the new world that are more based on enlightenment values.
 

ATP

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Said sects have more members than there are people who agree with you. Why should i care about your opinion over theirs?
Not my opinion,only Apostolic succesion.
North Korea's economy was about as dead as one could be, yet it's still there.
Becouse Kim family keep killing all dissident,and China keep suppling them.Not possible for soviets - they were too big for that,and China from 1991 simply could not keep them afloat.
Better than yours lol.
Becouse?
Jews before 1950, just like many others, may have had delusions about how communist rule will look like.
Nope.After 1945 EVERYBODY in Poland saw what kind of monsters commies are.Those who supported them in Poland willingly supported monsters.
Just because you repeat a stupid history fanfiction doesn't make it any more true.

Not any more than anyone else in that region, including Jews.
So overall it's a retarded argument people who read half a study think is a "i win" button, but sorry, it's not what you think, and i have the receipts:

Genetically speaking, Jews, Palestinians, and all the Arabic peoples within hundreds of kilometers are hard to tell, so if you want to argue genetics, you could switch out Egyptians with Turks and Armenians with Jews and "genetic legitimacy" would still fit.

And your post support fact,that both palestinians and jews are descendents of Caananities.who lived there from bronze age.
Sorry, you don't get to decide who lost what right, judge who broke the rules, and what duties mods have, no one made you the site owner.
And you still breaked Rules.
So? As i said, we should be mad that our political leadership is being hysterical clowns, not that some parts of the world aren't equally unreasonable.
Why not both?
Not anymore, as i said. Saudis are getting better, and Iran is getting worse, stop being stuck in 2 decades past.
Saudis still are murdering ex-muslims,just like any other muslim country - but Iran tolerate real christians in their country.
Iranians are going for nukes and playing empire, not Turks. Pakistanis have nukes already. Get some fucking basic information before you try play geopolitics with me.
Turks are not plaing empire? did you never hear about Erdogan ?
And Pakistan is China property,they use their nukes for India.
Well they don't have another homeland, and if they tried to claim one elsewhere people like you would be the first to cry foul.
We got some territories on western border from Germany after WW2 after not owning them for about half that, so don't be that shocked.
Poland do not existed 1500 years ago.Just like Germany.And,Palestina arleady have owners - palestinians,which were here from bronze age.Law of property is for everybody,or nobody.
You mean Iran? Whose ballistic missiles and drones is Moscow launching at Ukraine?
Izrael.Did you forget,how Natanjahu practically sit on Putin laps every time they meet?
Yeah, and one day they flip to Muslim Brotherhood, luckily a junta happened after few years of that, that's how weak they are, and what a "reliable" ally they can be.
Weak.That is why USA should prefer them,like they prefered Tusk in Poland to previous goverment.Becouse they need weak tools,not competitors.And Izrael become just that - they made their own policy with both Moscov and China.
Your simping for Shia theocrats is pathetic and dumb.
Do not care about them - but,if your friends remove them,it would lead to bigger Iraq-
and,as a result,we would get:
1.The same or worst muslims ruling there again after few years
2.10-30k killed american solsiers
3.Wasted american moneys
4. 85% of local christians exiled or killed.
5.Armenia genocided for good.

I knew,that americans do not cared about christians in Middle East - but they care about their soldiers and money.So,after another fiasco like that,they could kill or at least remove your friends.
They should not invade Iran,becouse they would dig their own graves doing so.

P.S Merry Easter ! Jesus is King.He arleady win,and those who died for HIM win as well.All we should fear is betreyal and following idiots serving luciper.
 

Marduk

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Not my opinion,only Apostolic succesion.
Again, a lot of people doesn't care.
Becouse Kim family keep killing all dissident,and China keep suppling them.Not possible for soviets - they were too big for that,and China from 1991 simply could not keep them afloat.
See, so there is a way.
Because i agree with them.
Nope.After 1945 EVERYBODY in Poland saw what kind of monsters commies are.Those who supported them in Poland willingly supported monsters.
That's just pure propaganda, we had a fair share of socialists even then. No one really knows how many were genuine, but they existed still.
And your post support fact,that both palestinians and jews are descendents of Caananities.who lived there from bronze age.
Yup, they all are, so are other Arabs, Turks, Iranians etc. Their main differences are cultural, not genetic.
And you still breaked Rules.
As i said, what you think on the matter is irrelevant because you are not a valid judge for that, and considering how you judge it, there's a good reason why you aren't.
Why not both?
Because if we are mad that others aren't clowns that means we demand more clownery, so we have to decide if we want more or less.
Saudis still are murdering ex-muslims,just like any other muslim country - but Iran tolerate real christians in their country.
Back in a fucking circle...
If they tolerate them, why do they have a worse rating for treatment of Christians than Saudis?
This is just fucking pro-Iranian propaganda.

Turks are not plaing empire? did you never hear about Erdogan ?
No one cares what Erdogan may or may not dream about when he can't even stop his economy collapsing, he won't be having his dreams fulfilled that way.
And Pakistan is China property,they use their nukes for India.
Pakistan is playing stupid games around Afghanistan and India border incompetently, so they have a lot of leeway from China.
Poland do not existed 1500 years ago.Just like Germany.And,Palestina arleady have owners - palestinians,which were here from bronze age.Law of property is for everybody,or nobody.
Slavs exist longer, and Rome owned the place as much as anyone, so are Italians the real Palestinians? They had the papers and the law, and your fictional Palestinians didn't.

Izrael.Did you forget,how Natanjahu practically sit on Putin laps every time they meet?
Really, Shaheds are Israeli? Are you clowning around or do you have a point?
When did they meet last time? Since Russia became buddies with Iran it's the end of being buddies with Netanyahu, that's not something he can tolerate even if he wanted to. Politics...
Weak.That is why USA should prefer them,like they prefered Tusk in Poland to previous goverment.Becouse they need weak tools,not competitors.And Izrael become just that - they made their own policy with both Moscov and China.
Well now Moscow is no longer an option.
Do not care about them - but,if your friends remove them,it would lead to bigger Iraq-
and,as a result,we would get:
1.The same or worst muslims ruling there again after few years
2.10-30k killed american solsiers
3.Wasted american moneys
4. 85% of local christians exiled or killed.
5.Armenia genocided for good.
Can i have your crystal ball to look myself?
If not, how the fuck do you know that.
If Americans don't do stupid shit after winning, they still have the old Shah's family to put in charge, that could work, even if they make it a democracy Iranians aren't Afghans and it could work.
 

Bacle

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I think it's time to destroy their navy.
I'll be real, the only reason we haven't is because there is worry they already have the bomb, and disguised it as an a NK nuke test.

What I was told is that one of the nuke sniffers planes found an anomalous isotope ratio in on of the tests, distinct from the other NK tests, and the US goes to a lot of expense to know which mine and which reactor any fissile material came from.

If Iran had done this, and had successfully tested a nuke in NK, it would explain a lot of the moves DC has made in regards to Iran over the past decade or so, particularly the Iran Nuke Deal and why Iran has been allowed to get away with so much shit.
 

GoldRanger

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I'm lying in bed tired but awake, waiting for news about the Iranian attacks, all the while listening to my wife snoring her blessed lungs out on one side, the soft breaths of my daughter in her crib on the other side, and the hum of airforce jets flying above, presumably ready to intercept threats. Surreal.
 

King Arts

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I'm lying in bed tired but awake, waiting for news about the Iranian attacks, all the while listening to my wife snoring her blessed lungs out on one side, the soft breaths of my daughter in her crib on the other side, and the hum of airforce jets flying above, presumably ready to intercept threats. Surreal.
Hope your safe man.
 

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