But, can be proof that the CIA is operating against it's host, and has become parasitic.
Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2
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We passed that point when we discovered they were selling drugs in our communities and their punishment for this was um nothing.
Obviously Russia would totally not do the same thing. And have people not releasing just what they are doing.Oh no, guess we better just let Ukraine get conquered by Russia then.
Only when it is against Russia are these things leaked
Oh no, guess we better just let Ukraine get conquered by Russia then.
It’s none of our damn business what happens in Ukraine, unless they declare war on the USA or the like. Just as it’s none of Ukraine’s business interfere with our elections. Same goes for Russia.
Except it very much is, you just do not want people to care about what happens outside the US when it conflicts with your peferred narratives and biases.
Nor do I believe Ukraine, or more pointedly Zelensky's government, messed with US elections.
The fact is the 'bury our heads in the sand' type of thinking over international relations has been shown to be complete folly by what has happened in Ukraine.
Also, the global price of oil doesn't care about your politics, but very much does care about the petro-chem reserves Russia is trying to grab in Ukraine with their occupation right over top of large oil shale deposits, and the off-shore fields in Crimea.
Not to mention the breadbasket of Ukraine used to be, before it got filled with craters and UXOs, one of the few that could even come in a close second to the US breadbasket, and what Russia has done has made the price of basic foodstuff go up significantly in much of the world, and though the US can easily feed ourselves, 'cheaply' feeding ourselves is harder when the global price of basic food stuffs is taking a hit from the conflict.
No, you just do not want to ever admit to be wrong about the situation, wrong in your thinking around it, or admit you got played, and keep getting played, like a fucking fiddle by the Kremlin's psy-ops.
Wrong.
Translation:
‘I don’t want to face an inconvenient truth that I’m being played like a fiddle by globalist pawns.’
As opposed to your perfered policies that have done nothing but enrich enemies of the Right throughout the West and make the average citizen of the West poorer.
All the more reason for people to seek other sources of energy and fuel instead of relying on a globalist system that relies on nothing changing.
A lot of which is the fault of globalism and just-in-time food shipments. Nations cannot afford to not be self sufficient when it comes to food.
The price of food has also risen thanks to idiotic green policies.
Reality is a bitch, and people are long over due for it kicking them in the face. Frankly, this whole ‘global village’ nonsense is leftist.
As opposed to you, who keep wanting to follow a globalist system propped up by people who are much, much more of a threat than Putin is. But that would mean you have to admit that you’re being played.
Vyor
My influence grows!
And what, exactly, would you suggest for that?
Do you think food just... doesn't spoil or something?
strunkenwhite
Well-known member
Interesting combination of allegedly real photo and obviously fake voice.
Also, the extremely serious self-reported location of Area 51, Nevada, which we were clearly supposed to take at face value instead of taking as an obvious joke.
King Arts
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Nuclear power it is clean plentiful energy that won’t harm the environment and we won’t be beholden to petrostates.
Or modified so that he’s harder to identify by the authorities.
Of course it’s a joke. It’s part of the cover. If foreigners pretending to be Americans had labels announcing them as foreigners, it wouldn’t be much of a disguise now would it?
Vyor
My influence grows!
So where do you get the uranium and copper for those? And the sand? The silicon chips?
All of those things can be obtained domestically if we want to.
Vyor
My influence grows!
With 30 years of work for the CPUs and GPUs, sure. Oh wait, no, we literally can't produce the silicon domestically.
No, your just a stubborn ass who won't admit when he's been played.
I know when I've been played, and guess what, people like you are the one's who've been trying to play me for years by pretending to be a 'friend', until I stopped believing Putin's BS about the forces in Belarus being 'on training' when the new bridge in Chernobyl went up nearly over night, as well as the 1st Guards Tank Army was moved to Belgorod.
See, I, unlike you, don't have pride staked in being 'always right', nor do I fall into the trap of the very limited view of the world you maintain out of pride and/or directives from your cultural leaders.
If new info presents evidence or considerations I had not seen or thought of before, or if I'm just wrong because I got confused or misinformed.
That's what made me support Trump over Hillary and over Biden, and keeps me from just abandoning the Right entirely to become completely apolitical in a 'no one speaks for the Ents'-type fashion, and stop giving a damn about trying to help the GOP or people on the Right succeed electorally.
You seem to be mistaken in how you think I view this as an issue of 'globalization', rather than you know, Putin being a rabid ex-KGB monster that needs to be put down.
The power/spirit of 'imperial Russia' must be broken for good, after what Putin and his powerbase have done, for the good of the human species, not simply American or Ukrainian interests. See, I want multiplanetary life, and that cannot happen with your so limited viewpoint on the world and world affairs taking power in DC or the US populace.
You think in so very small, and so very limited terms, because you want to pretend the world outside the US doesn't matter or isn't supposed to matter.
Or at least you pretend to, when it suites your political biases, because the amount of effort and attempts you've put in to try to get aid to Ukraine cut or cheered it on, and how many lies you're spread knowing just because it has a 'fuck Ukraine sentiment'...you are one of my enemies, DarthOne, not a friend and never a friend again until you unfuck yourself.
...so you're just going to memory hole everything I went through on SB, everything that happened here with the previous owner, everything I've done to support Trump and the Right as best I can, every policy of the Right I've espouced support for, all because i wouldn't keep taking the lies of certain people seriously and have seen through the grifter-media-complex that dominates the fringe Right and anti-Ukraine rhetoric and factions.
...this is why I do not believe you are as dumb as you seem when you post obvious lies about Ukraine, because no one that dumb could double-think so well. You know you are posting lies, but you just want an outcome that lie supports. I've seen it on the Left with illegal immigration and abortion, it's disappointingly fitting I guess to see it coming from the people who keep acting like they are so 'trad'/'based'/'regressive/reactionary'.
Horse-shoe theory of politics at work.
The only question is my mind is what is going to happen when reality breaks through your stubborn pride and ego, and the wall of double-think comes crashing down.
Uh, not all energy, or energy storage mechanisms are equally suitable for all purposes, and batteries drain doing nothing in cold temps while gasoline or diesel retains the same energy in it's chemical bonds, even if you have to heat it to deal with gelling/freezing issues.
Did you never have any education on electrical principles and what happens to batteries when you try to start a car in sub-zero temps?
Not to mention the logsitical difficulties of the entire logistical chain differences between gasoline, diesel, and batteries big enough to do things like run electric cars. This doesn't even cover the safety difference between gas powerd cars versus electrics, which is a whole other clusterfuck.
Yet another case of how small minded you are, and not just that, uniroically echo'ing a rad-green line that tries to make depopulation a goal.
I like the environment and want cleaner emissions, but I'm not stupid enough to think getting rid of gasoline, diesel, and the chemical feed-stocks for so many products that petroluem products represent is the way to make anyone's life better when the practical realities are getting displayed on the news every other week.
Which means those preto-chem deposits sitting in Ukraine very do matter to the US and world at large, because the price of oil can determine the price of many things, and there is not a good substitute for pretoluem products when it comes to many, many things.
In space, without combustion as an option for power, it's a different equation for all electric vehicles.
I want logsitical and strategic cushioning in society and economics, with slack capacity valued for a rainy day, instead of the entire 'just-in-time' situaiton, but I also recognize I am very unlikey to get what I want, so I have deal with it and make the best of it I can.
And guess what, until we have as a species more than one planet that is self-sufficent enough for human's to live on and population in perpetuity besides Earth, we don't have the option to pretend the rest of this world doesn't matter because it's inconveinent to certain contrarian political takes.
And getting that multiplanetary life thing going is a lot easier if Russia isn't constantly trying to reclaim it's 'former imperial posessions' or whatever they want to call it.
Ukraine had a massive part of the Soviet space program that could very much help in the 'make life multiplanetary' endevour, and thanks to Putin and his supporters stupidity, it'll be a miracle if much of it survives the war in a servicable conditon.
Ukraine's space industry could be helping the US get ahead in space by an even greater margin (imagine SpaceX or NASA being able to launch out of Crimea over the Black Sea via Ukrainian partners/hosting launch complexes) if not for this war.
YOU THINK TOO SMALL DARTH.
I oppose what policies and ideologies I think are harmful to the US and humanity, and I am not a kneejerk contrarian who keeps taking the lies of the Kremlin and it's stooges at face value because they are useful to your crusade against 'degeneracy' or simply oppose Biden.
And again, unlike you, I've admitted when I've been fooled, or given bad information, or were just mistaken, when actual convincing evidence was shown to me/convincing arguments made to me.
You have neither convincing evidence or convincing arguments, and haven't for a long time now.
That chip capacity will be in place THIS YEAR or next at the latest. At least 7 production plants will begin operation within the next 24 months inside the US.
Vyor
My influence grows!
And what nodes will those be?
edit: Also, that isn't silicon. As in, the fucking element.
Umm...I don't know what you've been looking at, but the US extracts about 50% of it's silicon within the US. 250K Metric Tons in 2022. In 2023 the US also imported 80K Tons of silicon and another 160K Tons of ferrosilicon of all grades.
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