Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
Ok, let us take a break from the happening right now, you all know what it is, and do some ASB-fueled discussions about what might have been if...
The main idea of this thread is to create a Slavic superpower that is either dominant globally or in Eurasia.
Slavs discover and colonize the Americas is also an option.
Other victory conditions should include religious autonomy, this can mean an autonomous Orthodox patriarchy or a fully captive Papacy
where only the Slav-approved candidates get to become Pope.
In any case the Orthodox-Catholic-Uniat confrontation will have to be quashed, and a form of Caesaropopism should exist.
Protestantism welcome, too.
Some form of more democratic governance, maybe in line with the original Slavic tribal warrior democracy that was described by Byzantine historians in the 5th century, preferably without a magnate/bolyar oligarchy.
NO SERFDOM!
By the mid-20th century the place should have a population of at least 600 million, cover a significant portion of Eurasia, read larger than the USSR, and be a massive technological and industrial powerhouse, seen by all those that surround it as "civilized" and prosperous, with a high living standard and a high GDP per capita, and a constitution enshrining personal rights, freedoms and responsibilities, but totalitarian pan-slavism is fine too.
It will probably need to have a confederate/dualist monarchy or republic/federal structure.
Option 1) The First Bulgarian Empire does not get into a huge, pointless spat with the Byzantines at the start of the 11th century, and focuses on Christianizing and bringing the slavonic rite to the Serbian, Montenegran and other Slavic tribes to the North, this removes the Rus and the modern Serbs from the picture, and eventually paves the way for further expansion into Siberia, perhaps some form of alliance with the Poles and a form of dualist state like the Polish-Lithuanina commonwealth, with more religious tolerance and an adoption of Cyrillic and orthodoxy.
Option 2) Hugely successful Cossack republic forming in what is modern-day Ukraine and Belarus gobbling up both Poland and Russia and making the United Slav States of Yurup.
Option 3) Something related to the Rus or Russia being hugely more successful.
Option 4) Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth something-something.Not familiar with their history, so somebody else should suggest how this can happen. @Batrix2070 @ATP feel free to add Polishwhank here.
The main idea of this thread is to create a Slavic superpower that is either dominant globally or in Eurasia.
Slavs discover and colonize the Americas is also an option.
Other victory conditions should include religious autonomy, this can mean an autonomous Orthodox patriarchy or a fully captive Papacy
where only the Slav-approved candidates get to become Pope.
In any case the Orthodox-Catholic-Uniat confrontation will have to be quashed, and a form of Caesaropopism should exist.
Protestantism welcome, too.
Some form of more democratic governance, maybe in line with the original Slavic tribal warrior democracy that was described by Byzantine historians in the 5th century, preferably without a magnate/bolyar oligarchy.
NO SERFDOM!
By the mid-20th century the place should have a population of at least 600 million, cover a significant portion of Eurasia, read larger than the USSR, and be a massive technological and industrial powerhouse, seen by all those that surround it as "civilized" and prosperous, with a high living standard and a high GDP per capita, and a constitution enshrining personal rights, freedoms and responsibilities, but totalitarian pan-slavism is fine too.
It will probably need to have a confederate/dualist monarchy or republic/federal structure.
Option 1) The First Bulgarian Empire does not get into a huge, pointless spat with the Byzantines at the start of the 11th century, and focuses on Christianizing and bringing the slavonic rite to the Serbian, Montenegran and other Slavic tribes to the North, this removes the Rus and the modern Serbs from the picture, and eventually paves the way for further expansion into Siberia, perhaps some form of alliance with the Poles and a form of dualist state like the Polish-Lithuanina commonwealth, with more religious tolerance and an adoption of Cyrillic and orthodoxy.
Option 2) Hugely successful Cossack republic forming in what is modern-day Ukraine and Belarus gobbling up both Poland and Russia and making the United Slav States of Yurup.
Option 3) Something related to the Rus or Russia being hugely more successful.
Option 4) Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth something-something.Not familiar with their history, so somebody else should suggest how this can happen. @Batrix2070 @ATP feel free to add Polishwhank here.